OK, that's it... The reason I closed down the other thread is because you were the one who seemed to be a fan boy. But obviously you've come back for some more.

Obviously everything I say is going to be 'tainted' by my opinion, so you'll just use your lame excuse of calling me a fanboy or whatnot, but I don't really care.

The PS2 is in no way different to the two other consoles. All gaming platforms (including PC) all have their ups and downs. Over the years, apart from PCs, I've owned 8 different consoles. I've enjoyed them all thoroughly for different reasons.

I took note of your lists, and I say you are a hypocrite. You are saying all these games have new ideas, yet you are basically giving us two gaming genres - Real Time Strategy games and FPS games (forgive me, I don't know what Blinx is, so I could have missed one). Sure, they are all slightly modified, but they all, in essence, follow the same theme.

Deus Ex - Run around, shoot things, solve the odd puzzle, use some skills.
Halo - Run around, shoot things, use a couple fancy in game features.
UT2k3 - Run around, shoot things,
Thief - as Deus Ex
Age of Empires - Build stuff, kill the enemy
HL / CS - As UT2K3

You mention Doom 3 as a new thing. Aside from the fact that it's still probably a year into the future (where you current PC will be extinct), what's so special about it? Games continually push graphics harder and further. Developers learn how to use what they have better than before. Obviously though, you wouldn't be paying attention to any of this happening on consoles though.

Again, you only really gave us two genres before, RTS and FPS. So I ask you - What about Fighting games? Racing Games? Puzzle Games? Party Games? Where are these? I can't say I see many of them on PC. The last reasonable fighter I remember on PC was Mortal Kombat 3, and that was a long time ago. Now we have games like Tekken 4, Dead or Alive 2, even a brand new, fully 3D Mortal Kombat on the way. I could easily go on for the other types I mentioned, but it's not worth it.

Game ports between systems - it happens. Usually one system will be better than the other. Simple question: Which system would you prefer to play Grand Theft Auto on? The majority of people I know, that have played both, prefered it on PS2. Why? Sure, the PC version looked the same, you could put in your own music, do whatever. But it was the feel of the console that people enjoyed. Just sitting down in front of the TV and going for it. That is the main reason that Rockstar only released the 'sequel', GTA - Vice City, on PS2. Because it had a better target audience.

That reminds me. I'd like to jump back to my previous rant about genres. One of the main reasons I purchased a PS2, aside from the backward compatibility, the built in DVD player and future internet use, is the fact that it has the BEST assortment of role playing games. Ever. There is simply no doubting that. Sony, since the PS1, have been amazing with the quality of RPGs they have produced for that system. And it shows. After 4 Final Fantasy games for PS / PS2 (with 3 more already on the way), 3 releases of Suikoden, 2 Wild Arms, 2 Vandal Hearts... the list goes on.. it shows that there is a huge following for it, and it is the system to do it on.

But all I've been ranting about is the PS systems. What about the others? I'll easily grant you the fact that a PC has more functionality than a console. It's made for the internet. It's made for multiplayer games. It's made for games that use first person perspective (due to a mouse / keyboard and many assorted peripherals). I'm not gonna deny any of that. I just don't think people who consider themselves gamers should shun any one system.

How about some other examples? Nintendo. They would have to be the best brand name for games aimed at younger people (and now the not so younger people). Games like the early Marios, the Donkey Kongs, the Starfoxes, the Mario Party's.... these were all a big hit. Why? Many reasons.. They appealed to all, as anyone could play these. They weren't overly easy, but they didn't confuse and bewilder players. The themes were well suited to kids (Pokemon anyone?), usually a great start to a merchandising sellout...

How about Microsoft's entry with the X-Box? Oh, it must be good. It's got better specs than any other console! It has X-Box Live (where supported). It's Microsoft! It's got Halo! ... If it's such a damn good console, then tell me why Microsoft were considering pulling out of the Australian market. The figures for console buyers in this country will surprise you. More people have purchased a PS2 than Gamecubes and X-Boxes put together. As far as I know (I could be wrong), even Gamecubes have outsold X-Boxes. But I'm not here to put them down either. They are a good console. Theoretically, they do perform better. But it's the history of Sony and Nintendo that are going to help them stay on top of MS.

So stop it with this crap that it's an outdated system. Being 'outdated' has nothing to do with it. If so, then why are Game Boy Advances so damn popular? All they seem to be are portable Super Nintendos....