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    Hi everyone :)
    This is my build
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    Cooler Intel Stock cpu cooler
    Power Supply Corsair GS SERIES 700W
    Operating System Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit

    I am thinking to water cool my cpu and my video card.Also put some sleeved cables but i was wondering what color should i pick for both of them .
    I am also opened for any suggestion!!!
    Looking Forward to listening yours suggestions
    Thanks
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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    How much are you willing to spend to have a "cool" system?
    Do you want to go with two all-in-one systems to water cool your cpu and gpu?
    If you are willing to buy individual parts for a custom cooling setup, you could also water cool your memory.
    The main issue, other than price, is do you have room for the radiator(s) inside your computer case and if not, are you willing to mount a radiator outside of the case?
    Hot pink would be cool (pun intended), but it's really up to you as to which colors you like best.
    Are you aware how much work is involved to sleeve cables? And how much it hurts?
    Send a PM to Boondocks and ask him to reply in this thread as to how long it took him to sleeve his power supply and fan cables.
    Boonie can also advise you as to what worked well in his water cooled systems and he posted some pictures of his water cooling results.

    Have fun and be sure to post pictures of your results.
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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    Hi. ProfJim asked me to stop by.....

    A few things for you to ask yourself while deciding what to do to get started in water cooling:

    How big is your budget.

    Are you comfortable with picking parts or do you want an AIO (all in one) solution for cooling the cpu. There are kits available that let you expand and build upon, others are closed loop systems and you are pretty much stuck with what you got.

    What size radiator(s) can you fit in the case, and are you willing to have a radiator(s) outside of the case.

    If you decide to cool the gpu, does it have a reference pcb. (if not then likely you will have to settle for using a universal gpu block)

    Also when you say "put some sleeved cables in", does that mean you want to buy cables already sleeved, pay someone to sleeve them, or are you willing to do it yourself? There are sleeved cable kits available all ready to plug in but the quality varies. Sleeving your own can be satisfying but that requires an investment in tools and time. Many people find they do not have the patience.

    The single best thing you can do is start carousing various water cooling and mod forums and look at/read everything you can find. There are many options available depending on how much you want to spend and how much time you want to put into it, literally too many to list.
    Do the legwork then come back and ask pointed questions about your choices and we can help you sort through them.
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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    Plug your video card in here and it will tell you if there is a water block available to fit. This company is EK, but if they make one to fit chances are several other companies do as well.
    CoolingConfigurator.com
    If the card has a reference pcb then likely there is a water block to fit.
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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    First of all thank you for your replies guys :)
    Well I want put a custom water cooling system and not a ready system
    I live in a island so its too windy which means dust...Dust...DUST... :@ system filters failed i have already 7
    plus 3 fans from gpu and 3 (2 from mobo and 1 from cpu) with no filter thats why want a custom cooling system(like ek or xspc you know) i will get rid of some fans b,c i firstly thought about an AIO cooling but i chage my mide when i see this :/




    ABOUT GPU
    ( i want a full plate) but the ekwb configuration says that :
    EK-FC7870 series block needs to be modded a bit to fit this card (plastic top must be cut at certain edges)

    ABOUT RADIATOR
    There is space for 2 140 mm fans in the top (280x140) of my case (there is a foto from the top side cause i think it too but there are not too much space :/)
    So i think a flat radiator will fit (it must be as thin as a fa


    ABOUT SLEEVING
    I think that i should buy some sleeve extations for my psu cause cables are too long and sleeving is a painfull work for psu pc and for me :D look my other pc


    About budget around 400 euros should be fine come on we build computer no cooking :D
    I have a lot to add in this pc

    LOOKING FORWARD TO LISTENING TO YOUR IDEAS !!!!

    LOOK THIS SO COOL <3

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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    Keep in mind that modding your GPU or PSU will void their warranties.
    The "so cool" look is easy when you install ultra violet lighting inside your case and you use special U/V reactive cables, tubing, coolant and sleeves.
    Do a google search using uv sensitive OR reactive computer parts for links and also look at the Images search option for some cool pictures.
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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    Is good idea buy uv parts or uv coolant cause if i take clear tubing and non uv it will be cheaper maybe (???)
    Just think tha i want to make a realy good pc guys badget 400 euros (+-50)
    have a look here is this have pump on it ? http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...6840.html#tabs
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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    For maximum parts life and minimal hardware problems, I would rather use UV tubing and a high quality, corrosion inhibiting coolant.
    The second line in your link says:
    This version is the standalone reservoir so no pump can be directly attached to the reservoir but it does allow you the versatility of being able to use any pump you require in conjunction with the reservoir.
    I've done some reading about water cooling but I've never done it myself.
    As boondocks said, you need to get familiar with the basics of water cooling, and learn about which components will work best in the available space in your computer case. There are a lot of good water cooling guides on the web. You need to put together a hardware package that will work best with your system. I think that buying cheap parts will lead to problems sooner rather than later. You don't want to risk damaging your system by using cheap parts or by having a system that isn't balanced, such as a radiator or a pump that is too small.

    Read reviews of the different components that you are thinking of buying. As I recall, TweakTown did a packaged water cooling review within the past few months. The following links are from Cases, Cooling & PSU Content Archive Listing :: TweakTown:


    This list goes back to the beginning of 2012 and does not include and AIO (all in one) reviews.

    I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to water cooling because an unexpected leak could damage your hardware. My ideal setup would have the water pump, reservoir, and radiator outside of my computer case, but this probably isn't practical because the length of all the tubing probably would not work. I think that the best setup is where you are using the shortest overall length of tubing.
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    Default Re: WaterCooling Ideas & Suggestions

    I think that EK parts are very good and i dont care if i pay 50 or 100 euro more i want performance and quality
    but what should i check except from brand ?

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