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			<title>Upgrade options on my old AMD Build</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:26:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I built this rig...roughly 5 years ago I believe, with the idea in mind that I could upgrade it easily. Here are the specs: 
CPU: AMD athlon 64 x2 4600 
Mobo: ASUS m2n32Sli Deluxe Wifi 
GFX: XFX Geforce 7950GT 
Memory: OCZ 2x2gb 
 
I've heard that I can drop in an AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black and it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I built this rig...roughly 5 years ago I believe, with the idea in mind that I could upgrade it easily. Here are the specs:<br />
CPU: AMD athlon 64 x2 4600<br />
Mobo: ASUS m2n32Sli Deluxe Wifi<br />
GFX: XFX Geforce 7950GT<br />
Memory: OCZ 2x2gb<br />
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I've heard that I can drop in an AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black and it will work in my mobo with a bios update. Any truth in this? Complicated procedure? If that worked, and I upgraded my video card to say...a GTX 650...bumped up the ram to the mobo's max of 8gb...can this system be salvaged? Worth it? Is there a bottleneck in this idea residing in the motherboard itself that would make spending the extra dollars fruitless?<br />
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Adam.</div>

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			<dc:creator>admpilot</dc:creator>
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			<title>Im a bit of a noob, building a rig for my dad</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:06:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've been gifting my dad with gift cards for new egg for a couple years now...with the intention of having him save them up so we can collaborate on his next pc. The time has come (roughly $800 in gift cards)...and I've been doing a good amount of research. Im simply looking for advice and opinions...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've been gifting my dad with gift cards for new egg for a couple years now...with the intention of having him save them up so we can collaborate on his next pc. The time has come (roughly $800 in gift cards)...and I've been doing a good amount of research. Im simply looking for advice and opinions on what I've come up with so far.<br />
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<font color="#008000">Build 1:<br />
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K<br />
Mobo: Gigabyte Ga Z77x UD5H<br />
HDD: WD Caviar black 1 tb 7200rpm<br />
SSD: Samsung 840pro 128gb<br />
GPU: gigabyte gtx 660 oc 2 gb<br />
Memory:4x4gb corsair vengence<br />
Case: Corsair Carbide 200r<br />
PSU: Corsair cx500m<br />
OS: Windows 8<br />
Monitor: 24 inch TN BenQ XL2411T<br />
Optical: Asus BluRay reader DVD/CD writer</font><br />
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<font color="#008000">Build 2:<br />
CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 with CM hyper EVO 212</font> <font color="#daa520">(I went with this cpu because its on the low end of the socket 2011, which has more future options than build 1 and should be just as fast)</font><br />
<font color="#008000">Mobo: Gigabyte GA X79 UP4<br />
HDD: WD Caviar black 1 tb 7200rpm<br />
SSD: Samsung 840pro 128gb<br />
GPU: Gigabyte gtx660 oc 2 gb<br />
Memory: 4x4gb corsair vengence<br />
Case: Corsair Carbide 200R<br />
PSU: Corsair cx500m<br />
OS: Windows 8<br />
Monitor: 24 inch TN BenQ XL2411T<br />
Optical: Asus BluRay reader DVD/CD writer</font><br />
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I haven't decided on which of the two builds to go with. My dad always wants the best, of everything...but Im trying to hold him back some because even build 1 is overkill for what he uses(Mostly home theater/office computer/web browser). Each time he tells me he wants the best, I need to remind him the best would be a $4000 system. I came up with build 2 on the idea that we'd only be spending $200 more and it would be buying him a bit more futureproof of a system. He would be able to upgrade the cpu hopefully to an IB-E (as if he would ever really need to). Now haswell has come out, I wonder if I should just go with a build more like build 1...but with a haswell cpu and associated mobo. What are your thoughts/suggestions/bottlenecks on all components? Will the CM Hyper EVO 212 fit inside the Corsair Carbide 200R? Are my mobo choices reliable? I almost feel like in build 2 he doesnt need a board with 4 pci ex16 slots, so maybe I would consider a smaller board, but I dont see any gigabyte socket 2011 boards that are mATX and if I went with an asus mATX board I'd be paying the same price as the larger gigabyte board.</div>

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			<title>Help me build temp rig to my 1st future rig.</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:14:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi guys i was trying to build my very first rig, can you please help me on buying which best and affordable for my rig? 
 
 
First of, i would be building my dream rig over a temporary rig. _I'll explain my temporary rig:_ It will be used temporarily for office use, some photoshop editing, word...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi guys i was trying to build my very first rig, can you please help me on buying which best and affordable for my rig?<br />
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First of, i would be building my dream rig over a temporary rig. <u>I'll explain my temporary rig:</u> <i>It will be used temporarily for office use, some photoshop editing, word processing and browsing NO GAMES aside from online games on facebook :P then i will upgrade this rig to be use as VIDEO EDITING machine in the future (future like 4-6 months after the temp rig). </i><br />
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<b>Heres the idea, i will be buying first a </b><br />
- CPU case (cm scout 2 already have)<br />
- Power supply <br />
- 256gb crucial m4 (which i already have)<br />
- and a Monitor (asus mx239h already have)<br />
as these are the components that does not need to be compatible or at least these are the hardware that i may not have to replace.<br />
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So now i have a cpu case (cm scout 2), ssd, a power supply (not yet sure) and a monitor (IPS since  will use it on video editing)<br />
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On my <b>temporary rig</b>, <u>i will be buying these hardwares </u><i>(in 1155 setup, in the future i'd like it to be 1155 too):</i><br />
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cpu = Pentium g620<br />
$47<br />
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mobo = ASRock B75M-DGS VSGIGAL mATX U3S3 Motherboard (B75M-DGS)<br />
$60<br />
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ram = GSkill Sniper 8GB (4GBX2) DDR3 1600 / F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2<br />
$70<br />
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psu = HEC Cougar Power X 550watts<br />
$61<br />
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gpu - PCI-E , ECS GT520 1GB-64bit DDR3<br />
$30<br />
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<b>Total</b> = $268<br />
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Now once im done with this temporary rig, i will be replacing the Processor and GPU which i will give to my younger brother so he can setup his own rig through those hardware :)<br />
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Now my problem is that, does the MOBO will support my upcoming processor which is 3770k?<br />
well i know on its compatibility list that it is, but i wonder if it has drawback like xmp or whatever technology bottle neck it is. Will it run the 3770k without a problem even if i overclock it in the future? cause if not i will retain the board. I am only looking for a board that is compatible with 3770k and run it with no problem. Also <u>i dont need a lot of PCIe slot</u>, <b>i only need at least 1</b> as i would <u>not be doing an SLI</u> (never) also i need a <b>sata 6/gbps</b> for my ssd and<b> USB3</b> (for my usb3 powered passport) <u>which ASRock B75M-DGS already have</u>. I know if it has a lot of slots it would be expensive, so please find me a cheap mobo if i have to replace it with same specs.<br />
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Then the RAM, when i change the motherboard because of the processor incompatibilty i know i have to change the RAM too so which do you suggest? also if i dont have to replace the motherboard then 8gb (2x4gb) is fine with me but if i have to i would be using 16gb (2x8gb) so please suggest a better ram for the mobo.<br />
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3rd problem is the PSU, why its a problem? because i will surely replace my GPU and I only have 2 candidate.<br />
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1) GTX 660TI (very much suggested by video editors)<br />
2) GTX 780 because of having 300+ bit<br />
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well i had gtx680 before but its kinda low powered and i think have no real life difference over gtx660ti on after effects rendering or if it has it would not be noticeable like few seconds only, so i only choose between 660ti or jump to 780. So if i decide to go on whichever of the 2 i need to have a better PSU, in addition in the future i will also be using 3 monitors (asus mx239h) so i really need a good psu, NO SLI by the way.<br />
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Guys i really need your help on these. Also please give me tips on whatever i miss or let me know if i forgot something. :P<br />
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Thanks a lot and hoping that someone could help me.</div>

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			<title>Help me build an AMD rig</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 04:32:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello all! I'm building an AMD system right now as I've confirmed the payment on Gigabyte's F285X-UP4 board so I can't back off on the eve of Haswell's crowning day. Why? I'd love to get my hand on that Ultra Durable 5 gimmick from Gigabyte. Yes I read it everywhere that A10 APU chicken out at...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello all! I'm building an AMD system right now as I've confirmed the payment on Gigabyte's F285X-UP4 board so I can't back off on the eve of Haswell's crowning day. Why? I'd love to get my hand on that Ultra Durable 5 gimmick from Gigabyte. Yes I read it everywhere that A10 APU chicken out at 4.5Ghz but Ultra Durable 5 I must get. :cackle: So here's what I have in mind:<br />
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M/B: GA-F2A85X-UP4 (being shipped)<br />
CPU: A10 5800k<br />
PSU: FSP AURUM 600w<br />
RAM: Kingston ValueRam KVR16N11 8GB<br />
GPU: MSI 7850 Twin Frozr III<br />
HDD: Any 500GB 7.2k RPM will do<br />
OS: Win7 Ulti 64bit<br />
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What say you guys? Comments are most welcomed and very appreciated. Thank you first.</div>

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			<dc:creator>PedangGila</dc:creator>
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			<title>Upgrade options</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:34:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So i've been noticing games starting to stick and shutter at maxed out settings and figure it's probably time for an upgrade.. but what is the question 
 
I built this system about 3-4 years ago and it's served me really well. 
 
ASUS Crosshair III Formula Mainboard 
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So i've been noticing games starting to stick and shutter at maxed out settings and figure it's probably time for an upgrade.. but what is the question<br />
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I built this system about 3-4 years ago and it's served me really well.<br />
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ASUS Crosshair III Formula Mainboard<br />
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black<br />
ASUS HD6950 2GB Flashed to HD6970<br />
8GB of Gskills memory.. i really can't remember the timing or the speed anymore<br />
1TB Western Digital Black 7200rpm<br />
<br />
I'm not really sure where the bottle neck would be other then maybe the video card? But should i just get a new 7x series or try to find another card like i have and crossfire it?<br />
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My Mainboard as far as i can see supports up to the Phenom II X6 series of CPU's.. but would i really see much improvement just adding more CPU cores?<br />
<br />
Also i see SSD's have really come down in price and are looking better and better.. Do these effect gaming though? I mean other then loading times?<br />
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Any info or comments would be great.. My upgrade budget is around $500</div>

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			<dc:creator>Lomax21</dc:creator>
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			<title>Building a gaming PC this is the setup so far... any ideas?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 12:41:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>PCPartPicker part list (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZBw9) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZBw9/by_merchant/) / Benchmarks (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZBw9/benchmarks/) 
 
*CPU:*  Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZBw9" target="_blank">PCPartPicker part list</a> / <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZBw9/by_merchant/" target="_blank">Price breakdown by merchant</a> / <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZBw9/benchmarks/" target="_blank">Benchmarks</a><br />
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<b>CPU:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k" target="_blank">Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor</a>  ($226.99 @ Newegg Canada) <br />
<b>CPU Cooler:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2" target="_blank">Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler</a>  ($29.99 @ NCIX) <br />
<b>Motherboard:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/biostar-motherboard-tz77xe3" target="_blank">Biostar TZ77XE3 ATX  LGA1155 Motherboard</a>  ($168.99 @ Newegg Canada) <br />
<b>Memory:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbxl" target="_blank">G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory</a>  ($64.99 @ Canada Computers) <br />
<b>Storage:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7td120bw" target="_blank">Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk</a>  ($99.49 @ NCIX) <br />
<b>Storage:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1002faex" target="_blank">Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive</a>  ($84.99 @ Canada Computers) <br />
<b>Video Card:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn66toc2gd" target="_blank">Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card</a>  ($269.99 @ NCIX) <br />
<b>Case:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-sgc2100kwn1" target="_blank">Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case</a>  ($74.99 @ Canada Computers) <br />
<b>Power Supply:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/ocz-power-supply-oczzt650w" target="_blank">OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply</a>  ($68.88 @ Canada Computers) <br />
<b>Optical Drive:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas" target="_blank">Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer</a>  ($16.99 @ Canada Computers) <br />
<b>Operating System:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050" target="_blank">Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)</a>  ($94.99 @ NCIX) <br />
<b>Keyboard:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-keyboard-sk1788bs" target="_blank">Lite-On SK-1788/BS Wired Standard Keyboard</a>  ($9.99 @ Newegg Canada) <br />
<b>Mouse:</b>  <a href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-mouse-m65black" target="_blank">Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse</a>  ($76.99 @ Newegg Canada) <br />
<b>Total:</b> $1288.26<br />
<i>(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)</i><br />
<i>(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-24 08:41 EDT-0400)</i></div>

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			<dc:creator>Brennan</dc:creator>
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			<title>Need help building a new gaming computer</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 04:28:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>My previous desktop died on me and I would like build a decent gaming computer (cause its cheaper to build than buy) and would like some advice on whether the parts I choose are fine. My primary use would be gaming (average gamer), and perhaps some light video editing. 
 
I am a noob with all these...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My previous desktop died on me and I would like build a decent gaming computer (cause its cheaper to build than buy) and would like some advice on whether the parts I choose are fine. My primary use would be gaming (average gamer), and perhaps some light video editing.<br />
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I am a noob with all these computer parts but after some research, have decided to get something like (open to suggestions):<br />
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CPU: i5-3470<br />
Mobo: H77/Z77 chipset<br />
GPU: GTX 650 Ti (minimum)<br />
500 GB HDD, 64/128GB SSD<br />
20-22" Monitor<br />
PSU: not sure how much power supply I need but perhaps 550-625w (80+ Bronze) is enough? <br />
Case: Not good with cases :/<br />
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I'm not too sure the difference for each part for individual retailers (e.g. AsRock, Gigabyte) but I see there are different variations for the same part so advice on which brand I should get will be a great help. Also those parts I named are just a rough idea so opinions on what I should switch them with are also welcome! (hopefully not too expensive compared to what I have picked as I am on a budget). Just a note, I would prefer if ASUS is left out of my options as I have recently a very bad experience with them.<br />
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Thanks in advance for any help!</div>

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			<title>Not sure what I should do</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 16:37:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am currently having a hard time deciding on upgrading my current system to the TT Admiral build or just getting a whole new system, probably the Triple Terror system from Origin.  As money is not a concern at this point in time, my only concern is performance...which would be a better fit for me?...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am currently having a hard time deciding on upgrading my current system to the TT Admiral build or just getting a whole new system, probably the Triple Terror system from Origin.  As money is not a concern at this point in time, my only concern is performance...which would be a better fit for me?  Currently I use my computer for video encoding/editing, CAD, general office programs and gaming.  Any tips on helping me make up my mind would be very helpful.</div>

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