Another Q9950 & UD3P Overclock

[Conners]

Title is incorrect! Should read Another Q9550 & UD3P Overclock

Hi people, I'm new here and to overclocking. This is my first build, so lots of 1st for me.

I want to get to 3.6GHz and not sure how to proceed from here. My higest core temp is core 0 @ 60c the other 3 are in the 56c to 58c range.

I have a rma for my current heatsink fan and getting a Coolermaster V8. I love the sound of that. Any way here is what I have so far using a templet of Lsdmeasap for Tik. Thanks for that template. Any thing you could tweak for better optimization and I should probably stay here untill I get the V8.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............:Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.+0.5
CPU Frequency ...........................: 401x8.5 3400
 
Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 401Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100
C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
 
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: ops
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
 
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: Standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15
Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................4
tWTR..........................................4
tWR............................................5
tRFC...........................................57
tRTP...........................................4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
Driving Strength Profiles A & B
Driving Strength ............................1066
Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:9
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:9
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.16250V
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.240v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Auto
CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: Auto
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.240V
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.500V
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100V
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Advanced Settings
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

Thanks in Advance!

[kick]

one cooler is rma?
The intel one is on now?
If the temps you mentioned are using the intel,u should get 10*C lower at peak with the V8 approx.Same as any good cooler really.

If trying for 3.6 2:40 B multiplier
You may have to use 10 static read on the mem ,tho maybe not.
and u can do the maths yourself 440-450 fsb and 8 or 8.5 on the cpu.
You will probably have to boost cpu and mch v a little,how much I cant say.
Those fsb speeds arent too strenuous tho.
For me fsb 490 to 500mhz stable means a increase of .02cpu ..02-.04mch and heh .14! ram.
Thats because my ram is at the edge and cpu isnt that far off on a 7 multiplier.
You may need little v change .
The other secondary ram timings may need to be loosened out a little or be just fine as they are..
Have you tried turbo performance on the ram(instead of standard) just to see if it would work ok on the settings you have now?.You would have to leave tRFC,tWTR etc on auto to try it.
with 60*C on whatever cooler you have , thats a 5*C or so( I work on 70* max temp full load case cover on limit,but thats just me) margin.
Unfortunately we cant read the nb temp directly Im looking arounf for some direct reading lcd/similar with a remote thermocuple that I can use.
I bought a 10 cents yeh 10 cents made in china refrigerator thermometer but its a low tech coiled spring. Still it does give interior case air temp.

[Conners]

Thanks for the reply. Sorry I do have an RMS on the ASUS V-60 thats on there currently and will replace it when the V8 gets here.

I'll play with the bios a little later on. The rest of it looks alright I suppose.

[profJim]

Use the forum SEARCH feature. I just did a search using:

q9550 overclock

and got 3 pages of threads. Even though some of the threads deal with different mobos, you'll get an idea of what settings are generally successful. You should be able to find bios settings that worked for others, along with suggesting settings.

[Conners]

OK will do Jim, had searched for Q9550 & ud3p but not for just Q9550. Also gonna look more into the math kick was talking about. I seem to remember in one of the posts someone was talking about such calculations.

Any way thanks for the replies, and anybody else care to, jump on in.

[Conners]

I finally got the cooler installed. Currently I am up to 3.6GHz and stable I believe.
My core temps are running 58 - 60c, lowest v core is 1.15 volt but I don't think I can raise it due to the core temps.
Any help in optimizing my settings would be appreciated. I'd kinds like a faster memory MHz.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.5
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.612
 
Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 425Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
 
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
 
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 850Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 4
tRCD ......................................... 4
tRP'........................................... 4
tRAS.......................................... 12
^^ At 850Mhz, you may be able to use 444-12/15 or 544-12, ect ^^
Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 4
tWTR.......................................... 4
tWR............................................ 2
tRFC........................................... 52
tRTP........................................... 4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2
Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................1066 
Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH <-- 10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH  <-- 10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.25-1.36 (All up to your chip) <-- 1.23
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.2-1.36 (1.2-1.32 likely plenty)<-- 1.22
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.5-1.58 <-- 1.5
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly <-- Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly <-- Auto 
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2-1.3 (1.22-1.26 likely good) <-- 1.22
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.6 <-- 1.5
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.1x-1.2 <--1.1
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0-2.1 <-- 2.1
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

thanks!

[kick]

1.15 v eh v nice ,Id like to be able to hit 3.6 on mine with that V.

If you want to hold that fsb try the 2:40B multiplier for the memory
You will probably have to go to 5 timings ,bump mch v a bit possibly ram by .02.
Itslikely you might need the advanced timings on auto(using standard performance) tRFC of 52 might be a bit tight.

Are those settings what you are actually using right now? or did u just use a possible settings template?

What temps are u getting with cover on full load?

[Conners]

Are those settings what you are actually using right now? or did u just use a possible settings template?

It was a template from one of the threads. I should have said that the core temps of 58 - 60c were full load using OCCT Linpack. Those temps kept triping my CPU alarm of 60c in Easy Tune 6. So not knowing WFT I'm doing lowered the Vcore to 1.23. I did notice the highest the vcore got was like 1.2 so it gave me a hunch I could lower it to that.

What temps are u getting with cover on full load?

Right now in Prime 95 I get the following:

Core Temps Idle: 35 - 38c
Core temps Full Load: 53 - 58c

Vcore Voltage Full Load: 1.17 - 1.20

CPU Temp Idle: 31c
Cpu Temp Full Load: 49 -56

I still bump 60c alarm with OCCT linpack but I guess it rocks the processor hard.

I may raise the Vcore up a couple of notches, MCH a couple of notches, ram V a notch, and tRFC oh like 57 or so. Ill also try the 2:40B multiplier you also suggest.

Thanks!

[Conners]

Kick, After taking your suggestions and applying them, these are the settings:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.5
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.612
 
Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 425Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
 
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
 
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1020Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 12
^^ At 850Mhz, you may be able to use 444-12/15 or 544-12, ect ^^
Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 4
tWTR.......................................... 4
tWR............................................ 5
tRFC........................................... 57
tRTP........................................... 4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2
Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................1066 
Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH <-- 10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH  <-- 10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.25-1.36 (All up to your chip) <-- 1.243
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.2-1.36 (1.2-1.32 likely plenty)<-- 1.22
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.5-1.58 <-- 1.5
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly <-- Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly <-- Auto 
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2-1.3 (1.22-1.26 likely good) <-- 1.24
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.6 <-- 1.5
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.1x-1.2 <--1.1
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0-2.1 <-- 2.12
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

Easy Tune 6
System Idle: 43c Full Load: 45c
CPU Temp Idle: 31c Full Load: 59c

OCCT
VCore Idle: 1.22 Full Load: 1.15 -1.2
Core Temps Idle: 34 - 37c Full Load: 58 - 60c
GPU Temp Idle: 47c Full Load: 48c <-- Manually set fan speed to 35%
Dram Voltage Idle: 2.128 Full Load: 2.112

Thanks Kick for your help!

Is this as good as it gets with this setup? Any further assistance is appreciated.

I know a heck a lot more about over clocking today then I did a week ago.

U Guys R a

[profJim]

GOOD STUFF, but ...
425 x 2.40B = 1020 MHz memory speed
your latest template still shows 850 MHz.

Post a screen shot of Memtest to show what what memory timings are being used.

As good as it gets, I doubt it.

tRD and tRFC settings have a major impact on memory performance.
tRD = 8 should work fine & tRD = 7 might be stable too.
tRFC = 48 - 52 might work.
At 1020 MHz, primary timings = 5-5-5-12 might be stable.
I've run 5-5-4-12 stable at 1030 MHz with my memory.

I haven't worked with the Q9xxx quads, so I don't know what the limits are.