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Old 12-30-2008, 04:05 AM
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Question ep45-ud3p e8600 I WANT THE BEST I CAN GET

so my specs are:
ep45-ud3p with F7a bios
e8600 @ 4051mhz with easytune6
mushkin 2 gig memory @ 1800fsb
gtx 280
tuniq tower heatsink
coolermaster cosmos case
610W pc power and cooling PSU

this is mainly an intro post but also i would love some experts here help me figure out this voltage thing cuz i know easytune gave the cpu possibly a bit much, cuz i remember from some posts that in bios u should get away with about 1.25xxx but easytune gives me 1.376. i have no issues so far with heat or stability, i just would love to run this at full tilt and also get past this one question. which is faster, raw cpu ghz OR a faster memory fsb and mobo fsb etc etc.

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Old 12-30-2008, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: ep45-ud3p e8600 I WANT THE BEST I CAN GET

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Old 12-30-2008, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: ep45-ud3p e8600 I WANT THE BEST I CAN GET

ET6 normally gives way too much PLL and cpu termination

So its best to set those manually in BIOS, just take note of the other settings that were changed to get that OC, you likely also can get by with less V core

Post your full bios settings for more help

Like this:These are mine on stock Vcore and 2x2GB OCZ ram w/ E8400 and UD3P
Code:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.78GHz (420*9)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 420
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 101

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 200
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.0D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 840
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 4
tRAS.......................................... 14

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 3 [Auto]
tWTR.......................................... 3 [Auto]
tWR............................................ 6 [Auto]
tRFC........................................... 52[Auto]
tRTP........................................... 3 [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2 [Auto]

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................: 8 [Auto]
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 6 [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 6 [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 5 [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8 [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................: 8 [Auto]
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto]
 tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto]
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 6 [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 6 [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 5 [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 8 [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:Normal (1.25 1.216 load in windows
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.760 [Auto]

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.320v
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........: .66v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: [Auto]
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.500
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.06v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enable]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Enable]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Enable]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enable]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enable]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect .............. [Enabled]

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Old 12-31-2008, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: ep45-ud3p e8600 I WANT THE BEST I CAN GET

thats alot of info to write down, i dont think i got all the pages, i just got the overclock page, not the rest on paper yet. i wish i could just txt dump this crap

Code:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05GHz (450*9)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 450
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 700
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 700
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40b
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066 1080
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15

***VOLTAGE WAS ALL AUTO DIDNT WRITE DOWN***

***THE FOLLOWING ARE GUESSES, I WILL EDIT THIS***
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enable]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect .............. [Enabled]
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Old 01-01-2009, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: ep45-ud3p e8600 I WANT THE BEST I CAN GET

Ya, dont use Auto for voltages for sure! What Vcore you need all depends on your CPU, just set something high you know will boot and then go in windows and look in CPU-z and compare what you get vs what you set in the BIOS and keep that in mind. Then just lower the voltage till it wont boot then raise it back up a few

Here would be optimal ranges for your setup at 4Ghz. Before you use any of this write down your disk settings from the integrated peripherals page because you need to load optimized defaults. I see you have loaded fail safe, you should now load optimized and set your ram voltage ONLY and then save/apply/reboot BACK to the BIOS and make all your changes again including (And do not forget especially if you have a RAID Setup) to set your disk settings again. If you do not and you have RAID and you let windows try to load with incorrect disk settings you will loose your raid array.

Code:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.010


Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 401Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66D = 1066 (If you want faster ram speed you can try a B mutli or you will need to lower your CPU multi to 9 and use 450 FSB for 250x2.66= 1197 ram speed)  You can however try 400x3.20B for 1280 Ram speed but you may have to spend a while trying lower and higher MCH voltages to get that stable

Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 900Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15/18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-4
tWTR..........................................3-6
tWR............................................4-8
tRFC...........................................52-62
tRTP...........................................3-5
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................800/1066/1200 (Test all last, set 1066 now)

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.25-1.36 (All up to your chip)

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.2-1.36 (1.2-1.28 likely plenty)
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.5-1.58

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2-1.3 (1.22-1.26 likely good, amount needed all depends on strap and multi used above.  Some need more, some wont work unless you use way less)

MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.6
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.1x-1.2

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0-2.1 (Check your ram sticker)
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
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