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Lsdmeasap , Thank you so much ! When I return home, I will check it out and send to you my settings!!!
The memory modules work at 2.0V . Memory Specs (I have two kits -> 4GB) Module Size: 2GB kit (1GBx2) Package: Ballistix 240-pin DIMM Feature: DDR2 PC2-8500 Specs: DDR2 PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 Unbuffered NON-ECC DDR2-1066 2.0V 128Meg x 64 EDIT : Oh! and something else!!! One more question. Is "DES Advanced Utility" compatible with Windows 2003 Enterprise Server SP2 ??? Last edited by ultraxmode; 04-14-2009 at 07:30 PM. |
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Well, bad news, the system did it again. I made no changes, went to boot it up this morning and boom, it reboots. It did seem to get a little further, usually it was doing it just before the Windows splash screen, this time it got past that. However, since it got past the point it usually happens I was not paying strict attention, so I don't know exactly when it happened. I just know I turned around a few seconds later and it was back to the post screeen enumerating devices.
Perhaps I will try upping the DRAM voltage from 1.860V to 1.900V and the MCH Core from 1.280V to 1.300V. One last thing, I am relatively certain now that this is primarily happening when the system is cold. In other words, the first time I boot after it has been off for a while is the time that this is most likely to happen.
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Bad news from me too (bigbillyt SORRY for interupting your issue..but I think we might have the same problem...)
My hard disk is dead.. can't explain that.. It was running smooth for years.. and now, with this board.. it's dead.. @lsdmeasap : here are my systems specs and settings.. CPU : Intel Quad Core2 Q9300 at 2.5GHz Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P , Rev 1.1 Bios Version : F8 Memory : 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 2.0V BIOS Settings As follows: MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster .................: Auto CPU Clock Ratio .........................: [7X] Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:+0.5 CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.50GHz (333x7.5) Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 333 PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ............: Auto C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800mV PCI Express Clock Drive...................: <<< 900mV CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: <<< 0ps MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: <<< 0ps DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).......: [Auto] (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier (SPD) .......: [AUTO] Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 1066 DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [AUTO] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................: 5 [AUTO] tRCD ...................................: 5 [AUTO] tRP'....................................: 5 [AUTO] tRAS...................................: 15 [AUTO] Advanced Timing Control tRRD....................................: 4 [AUTO] tWTR....................................: 4 [AUTO] tWR.....................................: 8 [AUTO] tRFC...................................: 68 [AUTO] tRTP....................................: 4 [AUTO] Command Rate (CMD) .....................: 0 [AUTO] Driving Strength Profiles Driving Strength .......................: [AUTO] Channel A Timing Settings Channel A Static tRead Value.......................: 8 [AUTO] tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase1 Adjustment....................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase3 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] Trd2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 [Auto] Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)...................: 9 [Auto] Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps Channel B Timing Settings Channel B Static tRead Value.......................: 8 [AUTO] tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase1 Adjustment....................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase3 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] Trd2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 [Auto] Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)...................: 9 [Auto] Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Motherboard Voltage Control Voltage Type.………... AUTO CPU Load Line Calibration Disabled CPU Vcore….………...............: 1.23750V [Auto] CPU Termination….............: 1.200V [AUTO] CPU PLL…………………...............: 1.500V [AUTO] CPU Referen.………….............: 0.760V [AUTO] CPU Reference2………,,..........: 0.800V [AUTO] MCH/ICH MCH Core……………................: 1.100V [AUTO] MCH Reference….……............: 0.760V [AUTO] MCH/DRAM Ref.…...............: 0.900V [AUTO] ICH I/O………………................: 1.500V [AUTO] ICH Core…………...……............: 1.100V [AUTO] DRAM DRAM Voltage ……..............: 1.800V [AUTO] -> I changed that to 2.00V DRAM Termination .…..........: 0.900V [AUTO] Channel A Reference .........: 0.900V [AUTO] Channel B Reference .........: 0.900V [AUTO] Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..............: [Enabled] C2/C2E State Support.................: NA x C4/C4E State Support...............: NA CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..........: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function....................: [Enabled] Virtualization Technology............: [Enabled] Legacy USB Storage Detect ...........: [Enabled] |
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Do you need suggested settings for the above listed ones at stock? If not let me know what you want to try to run at. If you did want my suggestions for stock setup from the above info here is what I suggest you work with >>> Code:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster .................: Auto or Fast CPU Clock Ratio .........................: [7X] Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:+0.5 CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.50GHz (333x7.5) Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 333 PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ............: 100 C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800mV PCI Express Clock Drive...................: <<< 900mV CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: <<< 0ps MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: <<< 0ps DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).......: [Auto] << Disabled (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier (SPD) .......: [3.20B] Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 1066 DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [AUTO] << Manual Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................: 5 tRCD ...................................: 5 tRP'....................................: 5 tRAS...................................: 15 Start with the highest suggested below, then later lower one at a time testing as you go with Memtest86+]Memtest86+[/url] Advanced Timing Control tRRD....................................: 3-4 tWTR....................................: 3-6 tWR.....................................: 4-6 tRFC...................................: 52-62 tRTP....................................: 3-5 Command Rate (CMD) .....................: 2 Driving Strength Profiles Driving Strength .......................: 1066 Channel A Timing Settings Channel A Static tRead Value.......................: 6-8 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase1 Adjustment....................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase3 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] Trd2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 [Auto] Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)...................: 9 [Auto] Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps Channel B Timing Settings Channel B Static tRead Value.......................: 6-8 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase1 Adjustment....................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase3 Adjustment...................: 0 [Auto] Trd2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto] Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 [Auto] Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)...................: 9 [Auto] Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Motherboard Voltage Control Voltage Type.………... AUTO CPU Load Line Calibration Disabled CPU Vcore….………...............: 1.23750V [Auto] CPU Termination….............: 1.200V [AUTO] << Set 1.225-1.25 CPU PLL…………………...............: 1.500V [AUTO] << Set 1.45-1.5 CPU Referen.………….............: 0.760V [AUTO] CPU Reference2………,,..........: 0.800V [AUTO] MCH/ICH MCH Core……………................: 1.100V [AUTO] << Set 1.20-1.3 (1.,2-1.24 likely fine) MCH Reference….……............: 0.760V [AUTO] MCH/DRAM Ref.…...............: 0.900V [AUTO] ICH I/O………………................: 1.500V [AUTO] << Set 1.5-1.55 ICH Core…………...……............: 1.100V [AUTO] << Set 1.14-1.2 DRAM DRAM Voltage ……..............: 1.800V [AUTO] -> I changed that to 2.00V (Good, set 2.0-2.08 as it will be a little less then what you set and with 4 sticks you may need 2-2.05 or so actual at 1066) DRAM Termination .…..........: 0.900V [AUTO] Channel A Reference .........: 0.900V [AUTO] Channel B Reference .........: 0.900V [AUTO] Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..............: [Enabled] << Disable if you want your CPU to run at FULL Speed always C2/C2E State Support.................: NA x C4/C4E State Support...............: NA CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..........: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function....................: [Enabled] << See above comment on C1E Virtualization Technology............: [Enabled] << Disable if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Legacy USB Storage Detect ...........: [Enabled] << Disable for now to rule out as a issue, MUST Be enabled later if you need to use Qflash and a USB Stick
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Okay, sorry it took me so long to get back to this, had a tough week at work.
Anyway, here are my current settings for averything in the M.I.T., and elsewhere, as suggested. The board has been rock solid with no more BSODs since I upped the DRAM to 1.900V and the MCH Core to 1.300V. I guess the only setting I have a question about is the MCH Core since you suggested at one point hat perhaps it should be lowered? Also, this Crucial memory is only rated at 1.800V, but I don't imagine the 1.900V setting would pose any significant problems in the long run? I also enabled the "Load Line Calibration" since this is supposed to stabilize the vDroop under load, which, I assume, is a good thing. Let me know what you think about the MCH Core setting. MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster .......................: Auto CPU Clock Ratio ...............................: [9X] CPU Frequency .................................: 2.40GHz (266x9) Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control.........................: [Enabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ......................: 266 PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ...................: 100 ----- SET MANUALLY C.I.A.2 .......................................: [Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive................................: <<< 800mV PCI Express Clock Drive........................: <<< 900mV CPU Clock Skew (ps)............................: <<< 0ps MCH Clock Skew (ps)............................: <<< 0ps DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance............................: [STANDARD] (G)MCH Frequency Latch.........................: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ................: [AUTO] Memory Frequency (Mhz) ........................: 667 DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)...................: [MANUAL] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time...............................: [ 5 ] ----- SET MANUALLY tRCD ..........................................: [ 5 ] ----- SET MANUALLY tRP'...........................................: [ 5 ] ----- SET MANUALLY tRAS...........................................: [ 15 ] ----- SET MANUALLY Advanced Timing Control tRRD...........................................: 3 [AUTO] tWTR...........................................: 3 [AUTO] tWR............................................: 5 [AUTO] tRFC...........................................: 66 [AUTO] tRTP...........................................: 3 [AUTO] Command Rate (CMD) ............................: 0 [AUTO] Channel A Timing Settings Static tRead Value.............................: 6 [AUTO] tRD Phase0 Adjustment..........................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase1 Adjustment..........................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase2 Adjustment .........................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase3 Adjustment..........................: 0 [Auto] Trd2rd(Different Rank).........................: 6 [Auto] Twr2wr(Different Rank).........................: 6 [Auto] Twr2rd(Different Rank).........................: 5 [Auto] Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).........................: 8 [Auto] Dimm1 Clock Skew Control.......................: [Auto] Dimm2 Clock Skew Control.......................: [Auto] Channel B Timing Settings Static tRead Value.............................: 6 [AUTO] tRD Phase0 Adjustment..........................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase1 Adjustment..........................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase2 Adjustment .........................: 0 [Auto] tRD Phase3 Adjustment..........................: 0 [Auto] Trd2rd(Different Rank).........................: 6 [Auto] Twr2wr(Different Rank).........................: 6 [Auto] Twr2rd(Different Rank).........................: 5 [Auto] Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).........................: 8 [Auto] Dimm1 Clock Skew Control.......................: [Auto] Dimm2 Clock Skew Control.......................: [Auto] Motherboard Voltage Control CPU Load Line Calibration [Enabled] CPU Vcore . .................................: [1.23750V] ------ SET MANUALLY CPU Termination ...............................: [1.200V] ------ SET MANUALLY CPU PLL .................................: [1.500V] ------ SET MANUALLY CPU Reference. .............................: 0.760V [AUTO] CPU Reference2 ,,............................: 0.800V [AUTO] MCH/ICH MCH Core ..................................: 1.300V --------- SET MANUALLY MCH Reference . ..............................: 0.760V [AUTO] MCH/DRAM Ref. .................................: 0.900V [AUTO] ICH I/O ..................................: 1.500V [AUTO] ICH Core ... ..............................: 1.100V [AUTO] DRAM DRAM Voltage ................................: 1.900V -------- SET MANUALLY DRAM Termination . ............................: 0.900V [AUTO] Channel A Reference ...........................: 0.900V [AUTO] Channel B Reference ...........................: 0.900V [AUTO] Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3..........................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect......................: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)........................: [Disabled] C2/C2E State Support...........................: [Disabled] x C4/C4E State Support.........................: [Disabled] CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ....................: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function..............................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology......................: [Enabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect .....................: [Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB__________________
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It sounds like your system was NOT stable with memory voltage = 1.80 volts, correct? A setting of 1.90 volts can invalidate your warranty. Let's first find the lowest stable memory voltage.
MCH core voltage is OK for the time being. Vdroop is intentionally designed into Intel processors, with the result that vdroop is looked at by many as bad. Cpu voltage variations are a fact of life and vdroop acts like an electrical buffer. The bottom line is that unless you are doing extreme overclocking, leave LLC DISABLED. When setting voltages, we want to find the sweet spot, not too low and not too high. We often suggest settings that are possibly a bit higher than what our experience would dictate because a minor overvoltage won't hurt the system while we're getting everything set up. If we suggest too low a setting, this can result in reboot loops or bios resets. We want to get your system stable initially, and then gradually lower voltages until the system fails. If your MCH core voltage starts at 1.30 initially, we then lower it to 1.28, then 1.26 until system instability occurs. We then increase the voltage by 1 setting and everything is good. Voltage settings that are too high decrease component life and generate more heat. System instability can be caused by voltage settings that are too low or too high. Memory Voltage: You can verify memory voltage in the PC HEALTH panel in the bios or within windows by running HWmonitor, Everest, or other utilities. Your memory is rated at 1.80 maximum volts. You should lower this voltage to 1.82 volts and then perform stability testing. Your memory can be invalidated if you over-volt your memory. 1st step: 1) Change the 4 settings below. 2) Return to the bios main menu. 3) Save settings and exit. 4) Enter the bios again and note the cpu vcore and memory voltages. 5) Save settings and exit. 6) Boot using your cd/dvd drive running Memtest86+, run this test overnight (or longer if possible). Each test loop might take 4 hours or longer. You want to run several full passes. If one or errors occur, note the wall clock time, test # that failed, and # of errors. Stop the test on any error. 7) If Memtest runs error free, reboot into windows where you'll run additional stability stress testing. If you use OCCT, it will generate graphs that track system voltages and temperatures. You will need to configure OCCT's monitoring options. 8) When not running stress tests, work your system as hard as possible. Keep RealTemp or a similar monitoring tools active to verify that system temperatures are OK. You can't cut corners with this stress testing. We might have to make some bios changes to gain full stability. We need to know that this stock setup is completely stable. For more info, check out Lsdme's Overclocking guide, focusing on his testing suggestions. ======== Change the following settings: Load Line Calibration ...................: [Enabled] <-- set to DISABLED ICH I/O .............. x.xxxx .......: [AUTO] <-- set to the value displayed (to the left) in the bios ICH Core ............ x.xxxx .......: [AUTO] <-- set to the value displayed (to the left) in the bios DRAM Voltage ...... 1.80V ......: [1.90] <-- decrease to 1.82 Please replace the x.xxxxx values with the value displayed in your bios, this is the "normal" setting. When you manually set a value, enter this value in the "[ ]" area, even if it is the same as the displayed value. ======== Leave the following unchanged for now: CPU Vcore ............. x.xxxxx .......: [1.23750] <-- leave as is for now CPU Termination .... x.xxxx .........: [1.20] <-- leave as is for now CPU PLL ................. x.xxxx .........: [1.50] <-- leave as is for now MCH Core .............. x.xxxx .........: [1.30] <-- leave as is for now
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I will read your info (printing them NOW for reading) and I will tell you how it goes. My system is 100% stable (after I raised the memory voltage from 1.8v to 2.0V..) but I am afraid of installing DES Advanced.. I think it may have a problem.. (like this problem, with the hard drive failure..) Thank you so much for your info and sorry for the delayed answer, I was out of Athens (Greece) for Easter Holidays. ;) |
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