GA-P35-DS4 + 4gb RAM ?

[qutlacha]

Hallo
I'm experiencing a little problem with RAM upgrade, so
I thought that I should ask, since there are some
serious wizards on this forum that could help me.
Let me first describe my system and than the situation:
My system:
CPU - Intel E6750
MB - Gigabyte p35 ds4 rev. 1.2 bios f14c
RAM - 2x1gb NCP 6400 cl 6
GPU - Asus 3870 DDR4 512mb
PSU - Corsair VX 450
Sound - SB Audigy 1
HDD - 2x Samsung F1 750gb; 1x Samsung 500gb; 1x Seagate 500gb - all sata2
Case, coolers... etc
NOTHING IS OVER CLOCKED (default settings)
OS - Dual boot: XP pro SP3; Win 2008 server
Conclusion:
System works FLAWLESSLY

Couple days ago, I bought 2x2gb Geil Value Dual Channel Kit PC2-6400 DDR2-800 (http://www.geil.com.tw/products/showSpec/id/52)
And problem begins
Replaced my 2x1gb NCP with new 2x2gb Geil, system boots, few minutes later BSOD "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" stop error 0x0000000A.
Tried Memtest86 with both modules (separately and together) in different slots - both modules OK.
Tried GoldMemory - both modules OK
Tried booting with individual modules (2gb) - System works FLAWLESSLY
Tried together (2gb+2gb), all combinations of slots - random BSOD
Tried my old 2x1gb NCP - System works FLAWLESSLY
Tried my old 2x1gb NCP + 1x2gb Geil - random BSOD
Tried raising bios RAM voltage to 2.1 V - same problem
Tried lowering RAM frequency from 800 to 667 - same problem

As I don't want to OC anything, all settings in my BIOS are set to default or auto (Loaded optimized defaults), is there anything that I should set in BIOS for this RAM to work ?
Thank you all in advance

[profJim]

Your problem is probably related to (G)MCH OverVoltage Control and DRAM OverVoltage settings.
Set DRAM Overvoltage to +0.10
Set (G)MCH OverVoltage to +0.10

Mixing different brands or speeds of ram is not recommended.

Your ram's link needs cleaning up, just the http//:.... geil info.

[qutlacha]

Thanks profJim for fast response.
Tried both settings you suggested - no success - BSOD again.

[profJim]

Post your current bios settings using this P35 bios template.
Fill in your bios settings and specify AUTO where appropriate.
Also add the "normal" values displayed in your bios.

Try booting with only 1 memory module installed.
If successful, post a screenshot with:
Memset using SPD and ">>" tabs
cpu-z main screen

Include your hardware list in your forum signature.

[qutlacha]

Thanks again for helping me and here are my BIOS settings

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [8]
Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5] - I don't have this setting in my bios
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [333]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Auto]
Performance Enhance = [Standard]
CAS Latency Time________________ 5
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ 5
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 15
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ Auto
Rank Write to READ Delay________ Auto
Write to Precharge Delay_________ Auto
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ Auto
Read to Precharge Delay__________ Auto
Static tRead Value_______________ Auto
Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [Normal] - tried +0.1
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [Normal]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [Normal]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal] - tried +0.1
CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal]
Normal CPU Vcore __________ 1.30000V
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled] - don't have this setting in my bios
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] - don't have this setting in my bios
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]
Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect_________________[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB



And some cpu-z pictures with one 2gb Geil module (as I said before, if I
install only one 2gb module, the system works OK, but as soon as I add another - random BSOD within OS)

[profJim]

PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto] <-- set to 100
Legacy USB Storage Detect________ [Enabled] <-- set to Disabled

Test with the above settings. If there's no change:
CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal] <-- set to 1.35000 (max Intel spec is 1.50000 for your E6750)

Test with the above settings. If there's no change:
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal] - tried +0.1 <-- try +0.1 again, try +0.2 only if +0.1 fails again

Please add your current hardware specs to your forum signature, it makes it much easier for us.

Once your system is stable, we can provide some memory settings to optimize your setup.

[qutlacha]

Thanks, going to try right away
P.S. I added my harware specs in signature, don't know why are they missing :(

EDIT: DOUGH.... it's OK now :)

[qutlacha]

PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto] <-- set to 100
Legacy USB Storage Detect________ [Enabled] <-- set to Disabled

Result: Booted into OS, try to stress system - BSOD

Test with the above settings. If there's no change:
CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal] <-- set to 1.35000 (max Intel spec is 1.50000 for your E6750)

Result: Same as above, booted into OS, try to stress system - BSOD

Test with the above settings. If there's no change:
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal] - tried +0.1 <-- try +0.1 again, try +0.2 only if +0.1 fails again

Tried first with MCH +0.1
Result: Booted into OS, try to stress system - BSOD, but not right away.

Tried with MCH + 0.2
Result: Booted into OS, try to stress system - BSOD, right away.

Pulled out one stick of RAM, booted into OS, try to stress system - System stable.
:(

[profJim]

I assume that you're testing with your Geil ram, even though your signature lists the NCP 2x1GB ram.

Leave MCH Core = +0.10

If you're using the Geil ram, change:
DRAM Timing Selectable___ SPD __ [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL
CAS Latency Time_______________ 5 <-- set to 6
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________ 5 <-- set to 6
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5 <-- set to 6
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 15 <-- set to 18

If the above doesn't work:
FSB OverVoltage Control_________ [Normal] <-- set to +0.1 (This setting is usually necessary only when overclocking)

Geil is normally good ram, but I've seen several other setups that upgraded to this model of ram have problems.

[Psycho101]

Sorry to interupt the troubleshooting, but did you happen to use "Load optimised Defaults" after you added the Geil RAM?
You may well have done it straight away, but I could not see you mention it.

*Edit* Forget that. I should have read your first post better...

The RAM you have should be good to nearly 1000MHz at 5-5-5-15, but slackening everything off could be worth a go. For "Value RAM" that Geil is really rather good stuff, as long as the board likes it. My cousin has 4 GB at 980Mhz, 5-4-4-12.