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Old 10-07-2009, 05:18 AM
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Default My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

Hey guys, my Crucial Ballistix ram is being mean.

I was stable with these settings for the past 2 weeks, with my comp running 24/7.

I came back to my comp after class yesterday and windows had some random error message. I close it, then none of my games will run- they won't even start.

I restart, start memtest, and red appears. I then set optimized defaults in the bios, run memtest again, red appears.

The only way I got the errors to go away was to power off the pc, unplug and let it decharge, then plug it back in.

I ran memtest for 8hours last night, no errors today.

Motherboard: EP45-UD3R Rev#: 1.1 Bios Version: F11
Cpu: E8500
Ram: BL2KIT25664AR80A - 4GB kit (2GBx2), Ballistix Tracer 240-pin DIMM (with LEDs) , DDR2 PC2-6400 from Crucial.com
Power Supply Unit: FSP, Model 460-60GLC, 460w

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : 0.5
CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.8 Ghz

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [400]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : 100

C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control -------
CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [800]
PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [900]
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [0]
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [0]

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance ------------------- : Standard
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : 2.00D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : 800
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : Manual

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time ------------------ : 4
tRCD ----------------------------- : 4
tRP ------------------------------- : 4
tRAS ----------------------------- : 12

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD ------------------- ---------- : 3
tWTR ----------------------------- : 3
tWR ------------------------------- : 6
tRFC ----------------------------- : 52
tRTP ----------------------------- : 3
Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : 2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength --------- : 1066Mhz

Channel A
Static tRead Value --------------------- : 8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value --------------------- : 8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.25 ---- : 1.25

CPU Termination --------- 1.2V ----- : 1.2
CPU PLL ----------------- 1.5V ----- : Normal

CPU Reference ---------------- : [Auto]
CPU Reference2 --------------- : [Auto]

MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.1V ------- : 1.1
MCH Reference ------------------ : [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Ref ------------------ : [Auto]
ICH I/O ------------------------ : [Auto]
ICH Core ----------------------- : [Auto]
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------------- : 2.0
DRAM Termination --------------- : [Auto]
Channel A Reference ------------ : [Auto]
Channel B Reference ------------ : [Auto]

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]


Here is the memset display on the optimized default settings. Also, my background processes aren't loading on their own now (in the red circle) I have to manually start speedfan, my mouse drivers, and my AV. Could this be related to ram?

As always, thanks you guys for all your help.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

AS far as your processes go did some program disable them at start up? Might check which ones actually are scheduled to start at start up.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

Try to run msconfig and see that normal startup is selected (if it exists in Vista).
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

did you try un-installing graphic card driver and re-installing as sometimes this will cause game crashes and if you play videos it will crash if its corrupted
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

Stupid me- I fixed the background program issues.

As far as the games go- I wasnt getting video errors, I was getting errors stating that my programs didn't exist. Once I saw the errors on memtest, and decharged the chips, I was able to start the programs on restart. (And I have not changed any driver settings in the past month)

I'm just confused because this ram will go for weeks with no errors, then 1 day 1 error shows up and it just compounds itself until I unplug the comp and restart.
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

Settings are 100% stable? I see vcore is untouched, what resukts IBT give?
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

MCH Core, Vcore, and V termination are all at stock values. Prime95 and Orthos all were ran separate nights for 8 hours each. IBT was ran for an hour, no problems.
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

IBT results? They should be above 25GFlops
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: My Crucial Ballistix is being naughty again...

No, I'm getting anywhere from 23.9-24.5 Gflops.
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I get 23.7GFlops at 3.6GHz (IBTv2.3) no more than 0.04GFlops difference.
E8500 is expected to give better even at the same clock because it has larger L2 cache.
Low core temps during IBT test may also indicate the need for more vcore.
Try to increase it it and see if it makes any change.
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