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06-25-2009, 03:14 PM
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Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
When I OC, and try to boot up it acts like it's trying to take it and then it beeps and loads up and back to defaults then when I go back into my bios, it gives me a message saying that some of the setings were changed but that the computer was unable to boot with those settings. No matter how far or how little I attempt to overclock my cpu, it just resets back to default and runs at the stock temp. For some reason, it almost seems like it's not taking my overclock and I've read a little and wonder if it is some setting or something that I need to do with the BIOS in order to get it to accept the changes made and run the overclock. My system should certainly be able to overclock quite a bit. Here is what I have: Gigabyte EP45C-UD3R Intel Core2 Quad Q 9300 - 2.50 GHz ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink Mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240 Pin DDR3 1600 BFG Nvidia 280GTX OCX Here is an SS of cpu-Z  I am simply wanting to get to 3.0 GHZ for now and get that stable. I know that this cpu can go way above that...almost 4.0, but I would be satisfied right now just getting it at 3.0 and then working up from there. Thank you in advance for any help and please let me know if you need any more information!     
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06-26-2009, 02:39 AM
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Re: Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
What BIOS are you using? Ya, you should for sure be able to overclock a bit, likely just a incorrect memory timings or voltage not enough is all.
Give us your full settings you are trying that fail and maybe we can see why and advise back This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours CPU = Model # Motherboard = Model, Revision # BIOS Version = Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link Code:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0 CPU Frequency ...........................: Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100 C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800 PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900 CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier ..............: Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................ tRCD ......................................... tRP'........................................... tRAS.......................................... Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go Advanced Timing Control tRRD........................................... tWTR.......................................... tWR............................................ tRFC........................................... tRTP........................................... Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2 Driving Strength Profiles Driving Strength ............................ Channel A Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Channel B Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Motherboard Voltage Control CPU CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore. Auto is fine if not overclocking CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65. Auto is fine if not overclocking CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly MCH/ICH MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave DRAM DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled] C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled] x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
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06-26-2009, 07:51 AM
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Re: Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
CPU = Model #897360, Core2 Quad Q9300
Motherboard = Gigabyte EP45C-UD3R, Revision # A3 My BIOS is: Award Software International, INC Version: F2 Date: 10/31/2008 Ram = Newegg.com - mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996601 - Desktop Memory I will post a reply in just a few minutes with all my numbers within the BIOS
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06-26-2009, 08:31 AM
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Re: Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
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CPU = Model #897360, Core2 Quad Q9300 Motherboard = Gigabyte EP45C-UD3R, Revision # A3 My BIOS is: Award Software International, INC Version: F2 Date: 10/31/2008 Ram = Newegg.com - mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996601 - Desktop Memory These are the settings I have clicked to overclock to. When I just tried to overclock, during boot, my pc just started repeatedly beeping at me like it was too much for the pc to handle....so I'm not sure what I need to do. I've read that this board has a lot of safety features that make it hard to overclock and I dunno if I just dont have something Enabled or Disabled. But this last time, it acted like it tried to take the overclock and since it started beeping, it seems to me that it's like my cpu can't handle it....which is strange because this chip should be able to handle it with ease! So, here are the settings I just currently tried to use...... [code]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7x Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: +0.5 CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.00 GHz (400 x 7.5) Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400 Mhz PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800 PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900 CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< opS MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< opS DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066 1280 DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................ 7 tRCD ......................................... 7 tRP'........................................... 7 tRAS.......................................... 20 Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go Advanced Timing Control tRRD........................................... 4 tWTR.......................................... 4 tWR............................................ 8 tRFC........................................... 60 tRTP........................................... 4 Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0 Driving Strength Profiles Driving Strength ............................ Channel A Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH Auto tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Channel B Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH Auto tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Motherboard Voltage Control CPU CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.325 CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: Auto CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Auto CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto MCH/ICH MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << Auto MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave DRAM DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: Auto DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled] C2/C2E State Support....................: Dont see this setting anywhere x C4/C4E State Support..................: Dont see this setting anywhere CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology................: Enabled Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............Didn't see this setting anywhere Let me know if I'm missing something and what I can do. Thanks again for all your help!!! Last edited by frankie97; 06-26-2009 at 01:50 PM.
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06-28-2009, 12:19 AM
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Re: Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
Looks like you've just coppied the settings Lsdmeasap has written for Static tRead values in the advanced memory section. We need to know what these are set to. if they are on auto, set them to the range recommended. For a 400 FSB, tRead = 7 should work on most RAm, but set 8 and attempt a boot to be safe.
The Q9300 isn't the best clocking chip in the world, but 3GHz should be pretty easy. You should be able to reduce vcore when you get it booting. My retired Q8200 did 3.2GHz on 1.2750V. Note that if the beeping you heard was 23 fast beeps, it's 99% certain to be a RAM setting, and at least 60% certain that the setting at fault is Static tRead. It's never a good idea to overclock with auto RAM settings. Same goes for CPU Term, PLL, MCH Core and VDIMM,; always set them manually. Try these settings initially: Code:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7x Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: +0.5 CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.00 GHz (400 x 7.5) Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400 Mhz PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800 PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900 CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< opS MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< opS DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto] System Memory Multiplier ..............: 4.00D Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1600 DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [MANUAL!] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................ 7 tRCD ......................................... 7 tRP'........................................... 6 tRAS.......................................... 18 Advanced Timing Control tRRD........................................... 4 tWTR.......................................... 4 tWR............................................ 8 tRFC........................................... 68 tRTP........................................... 4 Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2 Driving Strength Profiles Driving Strength ............................ [Auto] Also try 1600 if there is such a setting, if not use the highest allowed. Channel A Static tRead Value.........................:8 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Channel B Static tRead Value.........................:8 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps Motherboard Voltage Control CPU CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.325 CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.240V < Auto here = PC go BOOM! CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.570V < As above, never leave on auto. CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto MCH/ICH MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.220V MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave DRAM DRAM Voltage ……....1.500V............: 1.9V DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled] CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled] CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology................: Enabled Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............<-- This is in the Advanced BIOS settings menu, it's the very bottom entry, below USB keyboard and mouse support. Disable it.
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Lian Li PC-A09 Case (Full Aluminium) Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail EP45-UD3P v1.0 @ F10e E7400 @ 9.5 x 411, 3.9GHz, 1.425v ??c idle (stuck DTS sensors) and 57c full load (23c ambient) TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db . 2x2GB Corsair XMS2 PC2-8500, @ 5-5-5-15, 1093-DDR, 2.14v tRead 7 stable 2 x HD4850 512MB @ 715 Core / 2130 Mem. CrossFireX Scythe Musashi twin 100mm fan cooler, 40c Idle and 65C FurMark "Xtreme Burning Mode" Intel X25-M 80GB SSD (OS and Programs) 250MB/s Read 75MB/s Write and WD Caviar Blue 640GB (Storage, Downloads, Temp Files & Folders, Page File etc) Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fans Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050 This rig loads Windows 7 from the end of AHCI detection to a usable desktop in 13 seconds.  System has passed 24 Hours Prime Blend, 12 hours of both Large and Small FFT and 50 Runs of Intel Burn Test (Maximum Stress) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=609332
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06-28-2009, 05:51 AM
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Re: Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
I tried your settings at 7-7-6-18 and then at 7-7-7-24 and both of them failed to boot. I was able to change everything except the Drive timing because the only options in that setting were Auto and it wouldn't let me set it manually.
Also, some of my default voltages that you told me to leave didn't match up with what your post stated they were. So this is how I had the voltages: CPU Vcore: 1.325 CPU Termination : 1.24 CPU PLL: 1.57 CPU Reference : 0.81 MCH Core: 1.22 MCH Reference : 0.825 MCH/DRAm Ref: 0.9 ICH I/O: 1.5 ICH Core: 1.1 Dram Voltage: 1.9 Dram termination: 0.88 Channel A Reference: 0.95 (failed boot, 16 beeps) 0.76 (failed boot, beeped 16 times rebooted, beeped 15 times rebooted, beeped 22 times and then rebooted and set back to safe HW settings to boot) Channel B Reference: Same as the Channel A Not sure what I can do....I tried setting the Channel A and Channel B static tRead value to 8 with all these settings and then I tried 7 and got failed boots no matter what I had entered..... What in the world is going wrong here.....I know this is a very reasonable overclock and shouldn't give me any problems at all....there must be something.... Thanks for an y help you may have.....please HELP me!!!!! THANKS!
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06-28-2009, 06:20 AM
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Re: Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
The default voltages are just that, defaults. I don't understand what you mean. That profile was coppied directly from your post of your settings, so if any of the defaults on the left are wrong, it's because you didn't alter them originally. There is nothing that needs to match up to anything. Enter the settings in the chart that have a voltage value, and the ones that state auto, put on auto. Leave = Auto! If you're messing with references and trying to use the values on the left in the chart then it's no wonder you're getting a failed boot.
Leave CPU Ref on auto. Same with MCH ref. It doesn't matter about their voltage values, just their percentage in reference to CPU termination. Leave Dram term and channel A&B ref on auto too.
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Lian Li PC-A09 Case (Full Aluminium) Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail EP45-UD3P v1.0 @ F10e E7400 @ 9.5 x 411, 3.9GHz, 1.425v ??c idle (stuck DTS sensors) and 57c full load (23c ambient) TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db . 2x2GB Corsair XMS2 PC2-8500, @ 5-5-5-15, 1093-DDR, 2.14v tRead 7 stable 2 x HD4850 512MB @ 715 Core / 2130 Mem. CrossFireX Scythe Musashi twin 100mm fan cooler, 40c Idle and 65C FurMark "Xtreme Burning Mode" Intel X25-M 80GB SSD (OS and Programs) 250MB/s Read 75MB/s Write and WD Caviar Blue 640GB (Storage, Downloads, Temp Files & Folders, Page File etc) Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fans Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050 This rig loads Windows 7 from the end of AHCI detection to a usable desktop in 13 seconds. System has passed 24 Hours Prime Blend, 12 hours of both Large and Small FFT and 50 Runs of Intel Burn Test (Maximum Stress) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=609332
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06-28-2009, 07:10 AM
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Re: Overclock Help EP45C-UD3R
Ok. I have exactly what I am supposed to have now. Ive checked and re-checked. Anything that you have LEAVE on, is on Auto. I have set all those that you told me to set to auto back to auto and have everything else exactly as listed in your post before. I am still getting beeps and a failed boot. I have tried the 7-7-6-18 and 7-7-7-24 and I still get failed boots. I also tried just to take the FSB down to 366/7 instead of 400 and no matter how little I try to overclock it I still get failed boots. It doesnt matter if I'm barely overclocking it or going all the way to 3.0, it fails the boot....which makes me think there is some setting or just something that we're missing. I have NEVER had this much trouble woth overclocking and I don't know what the problem is but it's very frustrating.
I have printed out your post with my settings and I have it pulled up on my laptop and Im reading it and checking while im in BIOS to make sure that everything is EXACTLY the same and it is.....so I don't know what else to do! Any other suggestions or ideas?? I just dont know why I can't overclock it at all....not even just up to 2.75....ive seen screens of this processor running almost 4.0.....and I don't know what in the world we're doing wrong. Please hELP!!!! Thanks in advance once again for any suggestions.ideas/or help you can give me!!
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