Wrong BIOS setting.

[Lsdmeasap]

Originally Posted by wiz-kid

Hello,


Thanks for your reply.

Ok thanks for your reply.


Am I correct in thinking that I can disable the setting that I highlighted in my first post back to IDE? instead of ACHI?

Ok so if I enable Native Mode would this make the SATA devices recognized as sata and instead of ide?

If you have nothing connected to the purple ports, and are not using IDE Ribbon cable devices you can disable that highlighted setting as that is all it controls. What you set it to does not matter, IDE/AHCI/RAID as you will be disabling or not using it.

Native mode at the top would be better per your setup, but I am not sure how much of a performance increase it would be all it really does is allow the OS to assign IRQ's instead of the BIOS

I do not have Native enabled on my RAID and I have before, feels the same to me and benchmarks are the same. I believe it only covers IRQ assignments

Originally Posted by wiz-kid

Hello


Thanks for your reply.


Ok so if I set it to Native Mode would the BIOS then register the drivers as SATA instead of ide and post as SATA instead of IDE?


When changed the BIOS setting to AHCI the drives still showed as IDE at post and within the BIOS.


Thanks,

No, the BIOS will always register your drives as IDE unless you are using AHCI or RAID as that is just how gigabyte labels/translates things. IDE/PATA Mode means SATA mode, it is only like that to diferentiaite between a normal SATA Setup and a RAID or AHCI one.

They will never show up as SATA direclty even in RAID/AHCI in the BIOS

When you changed that setting to AHCI it does not matter, for a few reasons. One like I said they will never show as SATA, and two you are not using those ports that are controlled by the setting you highlighted anyway. The Purple ones are the settings you have highlighted, here is what is what >>>

Integrated Peripherals

Intel Controller (Yellow Ports)
SATA RAID/AHCI Mode (Intel ICH10R Southbridge) .............
SATA Port0-3 Native Mode ................................... Enabled (or Disabled, both will work)

Gigabyte/J.Micron Controller (Purple Ports)
Onboard SATA/IDE Device (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) .............
Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) ...........

Originally Posted by Th3_uN1Qu3

When turning Native Mode on the SATA drives will register as SATA. But you will then have to reinstall Windows.

He did not have it set to AHCI on install so he will not have to reload or repair windows, he can just switch it back, furthermore the setting he is asking about is for controllers he is not even using so it will not matter as he has nothing connected to the Purple Ports.

He is fine switching it back, he's just trying to make his drives show up SATA which they will not, if he used AHCI or RAID during OS install then yes they would show up as NOT IDE, but they would not be labeled as SATA either really.


@ Wiz-Kid

Do not worry your drives are performing as they should per your setup and are SATA Drives, they cannot be anything else. It is just a traslation thing or the way Gigabyte has always chose to label things.

Perfectly normal per a NON RAID/AHCI install. And no, there is not really any performance gain from a AHCI Setup except hot swapping and NCQ and if your drive supports NCQ it will be used either way if you are using Vista, XP would need AHCI or RAID mode to enable NCQ

[wiz-kid]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

That was a very big reply :) Ok, on the that highlighted setting I think I cannot disable it, I could either choose IDE or ACHI.

[Lsdmeasap]

Well the selection does not matter, once you disable the one above it will be disabled and the actual setting choice below will not matter at all as the ports will be disabled >>>
Onboard SATA/IDE Device (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) ............. << Disabled
Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) ........... << Does not matter if above is disabled

[wiz-kid]

Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap

Well the selection does not matter, once you disable the one above it will be disabled and the actual setting choice below will not matter at all as the ports will be disabled >>>
Onboard SATA/IDE Device (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) ............. << Disabled
Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) ........... << Does not matter if above is disabled

Hello

Thanks for your reply.

Ok so if I disable the one above it and then leave the one highlighted in my picture on the first page as IDE then that would be ok? So the devices are working as they should do? I have installed the Gigabyte SATA drivers for Vista not sure if this would make any difference shall I leave them on there or take them off?

Also I am on BIOS F11, I know that there is a BETA BIOS out atm for my board, is it best to have the latest BIOS installed?

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Just noticed, believe the music thingy was to be posted in another thread.

If you also set the JMicron controller to AHCI mode it will be quicker in Vista. It is useful for example if you also have an IDE optical drive or HDD. If you don't have any IDE devices leave it on IDE, as setting it to AHCI brings in an additional detection phase leading to slower POST.

[Lsdmeasap]

Again, yes you can disable this altogether if you do not use the purple ports, or any IDE Device, the setting it is set on will not matter as it will be disabled.

You do not need the gigabyte SATA Drivers or program installed if you are not using those ports. Express install from CD is not recommended at all either as it will install all drivers, and they will all be old as well anyway

Music thingy? What does that mean?

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap

Music thingy? What does that mean?

I accidentally asked something about making music in the wrong thread, i edited it afterwards. It was supposed to go in the "How to check 965p motherboard's revision" thread, as the OP is using his computer for composing/producing music.

[wiz-kid]

Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap

Again, yes you can disable this altogether if you do not use the purple ports, or any IDE Device, the setting it is set on will not matter as it will be disabled.

You do not need the gigabyte SATA Drivers or program installed if you are not using those ports. Express install from CD is not recommended at all either as it will install all drivers, and they will all be old as well anyway

Music thingy? What does that mean?

Hello

Thanks for your reply.


Ok so if I leave the setting on IDE and disable the one above it. Can I enable Native mode? Would this improve the performance of the derives?

[Lsdmeasap]

Do you have anything connected with an IDE Ribbon cable, or anything connected to the purple ports? If not, then again you can just disable that setting.

You can enable native mode at the top, sure thing. I am not sure of any performance difference, actually I have mine disabled in two setups right now

[wiz-kid]

Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap

Since your disks are connected to the Intel (Yellow) Ports, you can disable the settings you have asked about. Those are for the Gigabyte/J.Micron controller (Purple Ports) and IDE Devices that use the old IDE ribbon cable, if you do not use the purple ports or old IDE Devices then all you need to do is set those to disabled

The top two entries are for the Intel controller and if you are not using AHCI or RAID you have them set correctly (IDE/PATA Mode). You can however enable Native Mode in the second setting if you like.

If you want to use AHCI you would need to reinstall your OS using the AHCI Drivers, it can be done in other ways but not as easy as a clean install.

You cannot however just change those settings to AHCI your system will not boot, just a heads up

Hello

On second thoughts I think I will have a go at setting ACHI up because I am reinstalling vista, do I just download the drivers from gigabytes website for sata? I thought Vista had sata drivers installed already or do I just need to set ACHI enabled in the BIOS on the following settings, SATA/RAID AHCI mode to enabled? amd then onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode to ACHI as well?