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Thread: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

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    saltbeet is offline Junior Member
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    Default RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    I have a machine with a Gigabyte x58A-UD3R motherboard. It has 2 RAID 0 arrays on the ICH10R: the Windows 7 OS is on a 2 SSD array (I reasoned that the SSDs would be reliable enough to do this safely, and I keep it well backed up) and I also stored DVDs on another array of Samsung HD204UIs bought way back when they were cheap. (Yeah, I knew this isn't fault-tolerant, and that one is advised against RAID arrays on "green" drives, but it did work fine for a year. I used it as backup for my DVDs, a system that made them much easier to play, and I kept the array backed up. Well, not very well backed up, actually, but I knew I could always restore from the DVDs if needed.)

    Yesterday one of the drives in the HDD array started to make a sound like constant head parking or something similar. My guess was/is that one of the drives had gone bad, and that I'd probably lost the array. And when I restarted, I saw, during Post, that the HDD array had failed. But the SSD OS array was OK, and I figured Windows would load OK. But it didn't, even in safe mode, and when I tried to repair, using the Windows disk, everything just stopped when loading the Windows files. This surprised me.

    It seems to me like my next move is to delete the HDD array, since both arrays are controlled by the ICH10R controller, and see if I can load Windows then. But if the problems are because something is wrong with the controller, it seems like replacing the motherboard with something newer is a better option. Anyway, does anyone have any suggestion about things to try before giving up on the hope that the drive isn't trashed?

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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    What may had happened is if both arrays were present, the boot partition may had been on the second array (platter drives) I've see this happen before. usually to fix that, use the windows installation DVD to repair the installation with just the SSD array present. That should fix it.

    Don't touch the SSD array, leave it as-is and try repairing windows.

    to better protect yourself with platter drives if you need all that space (I'm assuming you needed a 4TB partition), I'd get another 2 drives and set them up for RAID10, your board supports it, that would populate all 6 blue ports and guarantee's full fault tolerance. issue with green/blue/red drives is their built in power saver inhibits the drives rom spooling up quickly (together) and then the raid controller will think there is an issue with the drives. you being in RAID0 minimizes this, you would see issues in a RAID1 especially in a RAID5.

    Try that and let us know.

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    CPU = i7-980X @ 3.8Ghz 166x23 cooled ba a Corsair H100
    Mem = 6GB 2000Mhz Kingston HyperX running at 2044Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-1T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3
    GPU = 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB in SLI
    HD = 3x Intel 40GB X25-V in Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 500 GB WD
    PSU = Corwair TX950W
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    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Too embarrassed to mention.

    Benching MB's... Asus P5Q and Gigabyte 890FXA-UD7... too many CPU's and RAM sticks to list. :)

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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    Vin,

    Thanks for your reply. I can't use the Windows installation disk at all--machine just stops dead while loading the files it needs. Which seems weird to me, because I wouldn't think that at that point the disk drives would be involved at all. Has me thinking about the power supply and such, because in the past I've had more problems with power supplies going bad than anything else.

    Also, I had one extra HD204UI, but that's it. Well, I do have some of the continuation model drives (from after Seagate bought Samsung's drives)--they have a new model number, plus HD204UI in smaller type. So I'm not sure whether the two kinds of drives are the same or not, i.e., whether they'd play well together in RAID.

    BTW, the boot drive is on a third SSD, another controller. Windows just grabbed that on its own when I installed it.

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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    That makes me think that windows still loaded something on your array, when the installation stops loading, when during the installation does it do this? what driver is it trying to load?

    as for different drives types in an array, it's OK as long as the drive share the same properties (RPM, Latency, Seek Time) size doesn't matter much because when you create the array the controller with match the size to the smallest drive. so if you have (1)-1TB and (1)-640GB your array will only use 640GB from the 1TB (and the remainder is wasted, you can't ever use it)

    Vin
    Main Rig
    OS = Win7 64 Bit
    CPU = i7-980X @ 3.8Ghz 166x23 cooled ba a Corsair H100
    Mem = 6GB 2000Mhz Kingston HyperX running at 2044Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-1T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3
    GPU = 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB in SLI
    HD = 3x Intel 40GB X25-V in Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 500 GB WD
    PSU = Corwair TX950W
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

    HTPC / Home Server
    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2011 Virtual Machine with 8GB ram assigned for homer server with exchange
    CPU = AMD 1090T
    Mem = 16GB 1600Mhz Kingston RED Limited Edition running at 1600Mhz
    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Too embarrassed to mention.

    Benching MB's... Asus P5Q and Gigabyte 890FXA-UD7... too many CPU's and RAM sticks to list. :)

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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    I really don't know about your problem with all this raid crap going on, but I would suggest you disable all drives except the one/s where your os is installed and repair or resintall and go from there.

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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinster View Post
    That makes me think that windows still loaded something on your array, when the installation stops loading, when during the installation does it do this? what driver is it trying to load?
    Vin
    Vin,

    Okay, so, several days ago, every time I tried starting from the Windows disk I got a long string of "loading" messages. Today I tried again, like you said. No messages this time, went right to "Starting Windows." Only difference is the rest I gave the thing. That's as far as it gets, though.

    Guess I'm going to do what the other guy said. Made me laugh, because that's just what I would have said if it were someone else's machine. I was just in denial, I think.

    Tom

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    Vinster is offline Senior Member
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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    ok, let us know how it goes.

    Vin
    Main Rig
    OS = Win7 64 Bit
    CPU = i7-980X @ 3.8Ghz 166x23 cooled ba a Corsair H100
    Mem = 6GB 2000Mhz Kingston HyperX running at 2044Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-1T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3
    GPU = 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB in SLI
    HD = 3x Intel 40GB X25-V in Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 500 GB WD
    PSU = Corwair TX950W
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

    HTPC / Home Server
    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2011 Virtual Machine with 8GB ram assigned for homer server with exchange
    CPU = AMD 1090T
    Mem = 16GB 1600Mhz Kingston RED Limited Edition running at 1600Mhz
    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Too embarrassed to mention.

    Benching MB's... Asus P5Q and Gigabyte 890FXA-UD7... too many CPU's and RAM sticks to list. :)

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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinster View Post
    ok, let us know how it goes.

    Vin
    Forgot to do that until I came back for something else. Yeah, as soon as I deleted the failed array, I could boot just fine. Thanks.

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    Vinster is offline Senior Member
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    Default Re: RAID 0 failure with Gigabyte x58A-UD3R

    Sweet, thanks for letting us know.

    Vin
    Main Rig
    OS = Win7 64 Bit
    CPU = i7-980X @ 3.8Ghz 166x23 cooled ba a Corsair H100
    Mem = 6GB 2000Mhz Kingston HyperX running at 2044Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-1T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3
    GPU = 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB in SLI
    HD = 3x Intel 40GB X25-V in Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 500 GB WD
    PSU = Corwair TX950W
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

    HTPC / Home Server
    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2011 Virtual Machine with 8GB ram assigned for homer server with exchange
    CPU = AMD 1090T
    Mem = 16GB 1600Mhz Kingston RED Limited Edition running at 1600Mhz
    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Too embarrassed to mention.

    Benching MB's... Asus P5Q and Gigabyte 890FXA-UD7... too many CPU's and RAM sticks to list. :)

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