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    I can never get a JRE updated.
    What's up with that?
    Tried 4 times now using various methods to apply J2RE 1.4.01.1.
    Nope, not going to happen - I just can't do it.

    Aggravating, as TechTV's new chat requires it, I'm effectively shut out:cry:

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    I have repeatedly failed every attempt, past and present to update the JRE.
    Any tips, tricks, etc:?:

    This has been my downfall for a long time now - I just don't get it.
    I swear, I'm following the directions at SUN to the letter. Honest, I am!
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    An expert is having a problem...:?:
    anyways...atleast tell us a bit more about your problem.
    the browser u r using, the error that u get...something more than wat u already told us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asklepios
    An expert is having a problem...:?:
    :?:
    :laugh:
    :confused:

    The configuration which prompted this post consist of;
    Internet Explorer 6 SP1 with the most recent JVM
    (just clean installed 10 days ago, so it is the current JVM that was DLed)

    After installing the SUN J2RE 1.4.01.01, ANY and ALL attempts to initialize the use of it results in a hard lock-up of the OS.
    whether that be by opening the control panel element, going to a page that utilizes Java or whatever.

    Requiring a C+A+D repeatedly, 5 - 6 times as twice does nothing.
    Then the BSOD; program waiting to respond OR program waiting to terminate.

    Press any key, get Close Program dialouge. Terminate hanging app/IE Window. Followed by the Illegal Operation in IE, it closes.

    Uninstall J2RE - lather rinse repeat.

    Man, this is ****e - never have I successfuly installed a JRE in any OS. And now with the SUN victory in court, it looks like running a JAVA app will be entirely an experience of the past for me.

    I'm thinking at this point that I'll be studying the surgical removal of the existing JVM and see if the existance of that is causing the dilemna in this particular case, at this particular time.
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    I've had several machines where i work [win9x] which couldn't handle the Java web start being in startup. try running msconfig and removing the java web start thing from startup before you reboot.

    also try a different web browser sometimes that will help.

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    did u try to change the default program access for virual machine to "Microsoft" one.
    you already have JVM from M$ so why not use that one.
    DigitalDD's point is worth considering too. I had the same problem too and i stopped JRE to start at start up and disabled it (only used to use it for Opera) and now it works like breeze.
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    Thanks for the advice, I'll try removing the Web Start.
    Actually that component by itself can be removed using Add/Remove Programs.

    Umm yeah, I'm happy with the JVM from MS, but the new chat at TechTV requires the SUN J2RE.

    Be a bit before I get around to trying your tips, I've got some P2P action ATM and I don't even want to risk the system locking up right now:eek:

    Why is it that with all the talent at TechTV they can't get a decent, simple, reliable chat client -- The Palace Chat rocked, but they got rid of it because it no longer had "support" from The Palace. I ask you, how much support is required for something that works:?:
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    ...TechTV...:shoot2:
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    Mr.C you are correct the java web start can be removed via add/remove programs. I just decided to take baby steps at first by simply disabling it..

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    Well, removing Web Start did nothing to remedy my situation.
    More experimentation to come, but right now I'm busy enjoying the forum:thumb:

    I do need to get a handle on this though, before MS's JVM becomes a pumpkin because of the lawsuit.
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    Hey Mr.C I was on the screensavers chat during the show last night and the java client it downloads into the web browser looks mysteriously very similar to jabber [an open source IM client]. maybe you should try downloading a Win32 Jabber client and trying to connect to techtv's chat with that.

    for more info on jabber go to: http://www.jabber.org

    the most easy to use jabber client is just another Jabber client [JAJC] : http://www.jabber.ru/projects/jajc/

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