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pcmkr
07-30-2002, 10:47 AM
Or I can just wait till winter and open my windows and let the room temp drop to -20F LOL

They need to add a freezing smiley:p

drpeterbright
07-30-2002, 11:39 AM
: party ha There's always liquid nitrogen. :clap:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
07-30-2002, 12:23 PM
Where can I get this special duct drpeterbright? I would need some kind of splitter though casue ya my computer would be nice and cool but my room would get very hot and uncomfortable for me.

pcmkr
07-30-2002, 01:40 PM
Well yeah, LN would definitely cool things down. Could just submerge the whole system in it. LOL But I think I'll let you try first drpeterbright :wave:

Morgan_Lander
07-30-2002, 02:40 PM
It would work, but you'd have a few runs of 3dMark and that'd be it. LN seems to be pretty hard on the system when combined with extreme OCing.

drpeterbright
07-30-2002, 11:13 PM
:) Liquid nitrogen is difficult to use without very special care being taken - e.g. fabrications around memory, processor etc. to isolate its effects (not to mention condensation if the ambient atmosphere is saturated with water vapor). Duct material can be fabricated from fiberglass sheets or sheet metal and can have as many vents as you desire. You can obtain the duct materials and tools to work it at an ac supply house. :)

Wiggo
07-30-2002, 11:46 PM
Not to mention the shattering effects that it can have on body parts. :eek:
Safer to go out and buy a vapour change setup. ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>

ReSpAwN DeMoN
07-31-2002, 01:13 AM
Ok I'm starting to really wonder here. Is this really a cooling solution or are you all still joking lol.

drpeterbright
07-31-2002, 02:06 AM
:drunk: Don't take it too seriously DeMoN. :cantfocus

pcmkr
07-31-2002, 02:11 AM
I think a little of both. The liquid nitrogen idea is doable. I remember seeing something on the net where a guy wanted the world record in 3DMark 2001SE so he used voltage mods on his mobo and vid card, then used LN to cool everything down. He ended up getting the GF4 outrageously overclocked and almost had his P4 running at 4GHz. His 3DMark score was over 17,000!!!!! I don't remember where I found this, but it was posted on some hardware sites. Anybody remember the link or site?
But like Wiggo was saying, better to be safe and go with a vapour change setup.;) Otherwise you could have an accident and break some body parts.:laugh:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
07-31-2002, 02:14 AM
lol ya I don't want to end up like the T1000 on terminator 2. or my poor computer, but man that would be cool. Could LN damage a processor though kind of like a peltier can? Like this is saying that you put your computer in standby.

drpeterbright
07-31-2002, 02:30 AM
:shoot: Everything becomes very brittle at those temps so be careful. :knife:

pcmkr
07-31-2002, 10:29 AM
I found the link to that page where the guy used LN to set the world record in 3DMark >> http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/Madonion/3DMark2001SE/

Check it out, it's pretty cool

:cheers:

FLaCo
07-31-2002, 10:43 AM
You need money to do all that...and balls...but with money comes balls so its just down to money.

BTW love the article...thx:thumb:

pcmkr
07-31-2002, 10:52 AM
No prob :)

Yeah, this guy got the $:cry:

pcmkr
08-01-2002, 10:09 AM
Are the forums dead today, or am I just not seeing any new posts for some odd reason?:?:

Wiggo
08-01-2002, 10:21 AM
Just no action here yesterday. Sometimes happens. ;)
:beer: :beer: :beer:

pcmkr
08-01-2002, 10:29 AM
OK, thnx ;)

Enjoy your drink Wiggo. :beer:

Mr.Tweak
08-01-2002, 12:18 PM
Intel Pentium 4 2.2GHz @ 2.2GHz
FIC FC19 (845E)
768mb Crucial PC2700 CAS2
nVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 reference (300/600)
80gb Seagate 7,200 ATA100
Det 30.30

FLaCo
08-01-2002, 12:26 PM
SWEET....i remember you mentioning that rig in the Beer Garden. 4200 at 4600 speeds. Sweet rig dude...GJ:thumb:

Mr.Tweak
08-01-2002, 01:58 PM
Yeah it's going pretty well, should have my Epox 4G4A+ soon which allow me to overclock the processor to 2.8GHz. :thumb:

pcmkr
08-03-2002, 07:36 AM
Be sure to let us know what your rig scores once you o/c it.

:thumb:

Wiggo
08-03-2002, 11:47 AM
Ya can be sure he will. :D
:beer: :beer: :beer:

Mr.Tweak
08-03-2002, 11:48 AM
Yep - Just let me get my mobo first... :)

Wiggo
08-04-2002, 02:36 PM
Ok then, the missus and kids were out today so I could get on No.2 PC and install some programs plus while I was at it I decided to give 3DMark another run though there are still quite a few background processes runnin'. ;)

Wiggo
08-04-2002, 04:21 PM
Ok I had a bit of extra time before I got kicked off so I closed down a few extra services. ;)
A litte over 1100pt increase from the stock setup (http://forums.tweaktown.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=56779). :D
Wonder how much more I could squeeze out of it. :?:

FLaCo
08-05-2002, 01:07 AM
Looks like a good improvement there WiGGo.:thumb: 1100pts is a nice jump if you ask me. I buddy of mine got around that score with a Ti4400 and a P4 1.6. I was surprised to see that score i was expecting at least 8000 pts.

What i am wondering is...why isn't PC No.2 yours?...

FLaCo
08-05-2002, 03:11 AM
This is what i got with the new 30.82 driver from guru3d.com. It gave 150 more 3dmarks on my stock rig.

drpeterbright
08-05-2002, 03:15 AM
Flaco, I didn't get any real improvement with the 30.82 driver over the 30.30. Just a two point difference with my Ti 4200. :cool:

FLaCo
08-05-2002, 04:55 AM
Thats weird how some other people recieve alot more improvement. Well i know there is always a sure way to improve your score OVERCLOCKIN'!!!!....here is my score with just my cpu o/ced to 1.84....148 or higher was really unstable...i know i'll hit 11 grand just need to make some adjustments...Here is my score with the new 30.82 driver that already gave me the free 150 pts.:thumb:

Wiggo
08-05-2002, 07:08 AM
Flaco[/size]]
What i am wondering is...why isn't PC No.2 yours?... Because there's a replacement due in a month or two for PC No.1. ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>

FLaCo
08-05-2002, 08:21 AM
Haha...there is always a catch isn't there....keep us updated...WiG...;)

Wiggo
08-05-2002, 08:33 AM
Well this is the list so far but some parts may change slightly over the coming weeks. ;)

FLaCo
08-05-2002, 08:37 AM
Thats gonna be one sweet system...real nice:thumb:

drpeterbright
08-05-2002, 08:52 AM
Wiggo - What's your planned overclock for the new system?:wave:

Wiggo
08-05-2002, 08:58 AM
Thanx Flaco. :D

Peter if I can get 1.8GHz out of it I'll be happy but anymore will be even better. ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>

FLaCo
08-05-2002, 09:01 AM
I am sure you will get 2200+ specs with it WiGGo. Just with 147 FSB you will have that riding smooth at 1.84 GHz.

Wiggo
08-05-2002, 09:02 AM
That's what I'm hoping for. ;)
Unless I unlock the CPU. :D
:beer: :beer: :beer:

drpeterbright
08-05-2002, 09:35 AM
Wiggo - Is there any reason (short of minor extra cost) not to start with a 2200+? :confused:

Wiggo
08-05-2002, 10:34 AM
$200aus worth of. :eek:
:beer: :beer: :beer:

pcmkr
08-05-2002, 01:27 PM
Those specs look really Sweet Wiggo, should get some real good scores off that setup. Kinda resembles my setup. ;)
Believe me when I say you'll love that HDD.:D

:beer:

Wiggo
08-05-2002, 01:32 PM
Oh I know I will pcmkr as I've built several systems with them now. ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>

zeradul
08-05-2002, 01:48 PM
Hey Wiggo, I think you have some excellent choices there, but I have one suggestion I think you would highly benefit from...

I think you should get a 5 button MS optical mouse. Which ever design you like most is fine, but with all the surfing you do, I can imagin you could use those extra buttons...

The two most popular configurations of the spare buttons are the default, (Back and Forward) which work in all types of windows, folders and browsers alike. But if you are like me and have gotten used to useing hotkeys for those functions, then you can use the spare buttons for my config, which is.

Minimize / Close. I do too much file sorting to be able to use the current standard, where one folder becomes the next one you open, so I am stuck in old school Windows Classic mode with each window opening in its own window. So both the close and minimize buttons come in great handy as I am shuffling windows to do stuff.

It is also great for pop-ups and closing anything quickly without reaching for the X, or the very inconvinient ALT-F4. (strain my fingers -ahh)

I suggest this to anyone, it has been without a doubt, THE MOST beneficial interface device I have ever used or seen. The only improvement on my favorite (the white one with gray buttons) would be to place two more small sliver buttons, right near where the mouse touches the mousepad. One inch long each, 1/8 inch high. MAN would that rule. I do not know what I'd use the two new buttons for.. maybe refresh? Maybe Alt-Tab, maybe show desktop? there are so many options with this mouse software, it would take me a while to decide.

Wiggo
08-05-2002, 02:25 PM
I'll keep it in mind zeradul. ;)
:beer: :beer: :beer:

pcmkr
08-06-2002, 03:57 AM
Hey guys,
I o/c my vid card and got a score around 11,450 in 3DMark. To hot in my room to o/c the Proc though.:flames:
Cooler weather is in the forcast for the next few days.:D :thumb:

:wave:

drpeterbright
08-06-2002, 04:37 AM
pcmkr What do you have your 4600 oc'd to?

FLaCo
08-06-2002, 04:40 AM
He got got the core up to 327MHz and mem up to 724MHz

pcmkr
08-06-2002, 04:46 AM
Yeah what Flaco said. I'm pretty sure those are the right numbers, or very close at least. :p

:cheers:

drpeterbright
08-06-2002, 04:50 AM
pcmkr - Lets get that puppy to 12 grand!:bounce:

pcmkr
08-06-2002, 04:59 AM
That's what I'm hoping :D

drpeterbright
08-06-2002, 05:06 AM
pcmkr Winter will be here before you know it. Fifty degrees fahrenheit cooller ambient temp will make a big difference.

:knife:

pcmkr
08-06-2002, 05:49 AM
Sure will drpeterbright

I'll put on my winter jacket and open the windows in my room when it's 20F out:p

drpeterbright
08-06-2002, 09:40 AM
:cool: You could warm your hands over your video card. :geek:

FLaCo
08-06-2002, 10:53 AM
PCMKR have you tried that 30.82 driver..?

pcmkr
08-06-2002, 10:35 PM
I can't try the 30.82 yet. First I need to get WinXP:p

:wave:

Wiggo
08-06-2002, 11:34 PM
Bummer. :cry:
:beer: :beer: :beer:

pcmkr
08-08-2002, 03:01 AM
Stock speeds score:

pcmkr
08-08-2002, 03:08 AM
O/C'd to 327.4/742.5 look here: 'Overclock a 4600' Thread (http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3844&perpage=15&pagenumber=2)

Wiggo
08-08-2002, 08:57 AM
Well ya can't complain about that score. :thumb:
:beer: :beer: :beer:

pcmkr
08-08-2002, 10:59 AM
Nope, you're not gonna hear any complaining from me :D

FLaCo
08-08-2002, 11:14 AM
I am having a hard time using nVhardpage. I open its ".exe" file and it runs on the backgaround and makes my computer lag but i don't actually see it...its just there in the background running.

Another question i had was...is RivaTuner compatiable with the latest driver (i.e. 30.82?)

Tatoruso
08-08-2002, 11:41 AM
I´ve just improved my rig (used to be a K7VZA KT133 mobo w/265Mb PC133 RAM) and unlocked my Duron so i could OC it a bit (7.5x133 from 9.5x100) and got this score...
i guess +1000 points isn´t bad....
what ya´ll think?

FLaCo
08-08-2002, 12:00 PM
Any improvement is a good improvement. So yea 1000 more pts is a great improvement.:thumb:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
08-08-2002, 06:41 PM
I guess a fresh reboot and fresh session of windows affects the score. I want to break the 7000 barrier I"m only 60 points away. I know I need more ram I only have 256. Will pumping it up to 768 do the trick? Also this score that I"m showing you was the previous detonators 29.82. It seems that upgrading to the new 30.80's didn't affect the score at all. Is this a good score for my current setup?


http://members.fortunecity.com/respawndemon/3dmarkcurrent.JPG

FLaCo
08-08-2002, 08:14 PM
I sure think it is...i mean there is always room for more...but my buddy with a p4 1.6 and a Ti4400 got around 6000 so i mean you score is kick ass.

drpeterbright
08-08-2002, 08:36 PM
:cool: ReSpAwN DeMoN 512 Mb ought to be enough. When I went from 512 to 1024 it made ZERO difference.

:cool:

Wiggo
08-08-2002, 09:31 PM
Yes 512MB's is the sweet spot. ;)
:beer: :beer: :beer:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
08-09-2002, 03:17 AM
lol YAY so what was the explanation that I was getting for the 6400's? I guess it was related to not rebooting before I ran 3dmark?

Wiggo
08-09-2002, 03:26 AM
Have ya tried it with just the 512MB's in it? :?:
:beer: :beer: :beer:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
08-09-2002, 04:09 AM
well right now ram prices are still to high........I"m not paying 140 for a 512 stick. I'm gonna wait for prices to drop for me to get more.

drpeterbright
08-26-2002, 06:52 AM
Any revisions in the works for this benchmark since the 330 build?

pcmkr
08-27-2002, 02:10 AM
I don't think so...they're probably concentrating on a new version of 3DMark to use DirectX 9 features now since the new cards are coming out.

FLaCo
08-29-2002, 12:04 AM
That makes sense...that would mean lower scores for us...no?

Wiggo
08-29-2002, 12:17 AM
That a possibility. :D

:beer: :beer: :beer:

pcmkr
08-29-2002, 02:10 AM
We're caught in the unending - "Your computer is outta date after 3 months." :(

Wiggo
08-29-2002, 02:29 AM
I'm use to that. :cry:

:beer: :beer: :beer:

FLaCo
08-29-2002, 02:47 AM
Thats what o/c'ing and tweaking is for...to squeeze all the juice out of your components b4 you upgrade.

pcmkr
08-29-2002, 02:54 AM
That's what makes owning a computer fun!:flames:

drpeterbright
08-29-2002, 08:31 AM
Wish we all had more money to waste so that we could get the "hottest thing" every 3 months. Perhaps that hottest thing would then even let us get a new computer too.

:clap:

pcmkr
08-29-2002, 08:39 AM
LOL gotcha!

The hottest thing encourages it. :D :thumb:

drpeterbright
08-29-2002, 09:02 AM
Mine just wants to see the Chinese news on the computer - I'm trying to get her hooked on gaming. At least she'll play one on her phone.

pcmkr
08-31-2002, 04:08 AM
Hehe, mines into gaming and AIM, also some PS2 and GTA3

drpeterbright
08-31-2002, 04:26 AM
You are too lucky. Just ran another 3dMark2001SE with the new 40.41 drivers and my Ti4200 and scored 11,330. Looks like that's the upper limit.

pcmkr
08-31-2002, 10:57 AM
Might be. Some people are having better luck than others I've heard.

drpeterbright
08-31-2002, 10:59 AM
The Mad Onion site reports most with 500 - 1000 point improvement but a few have negative results.

pcmkr
09-02-2002, 10:09 AM
Well guys, these drivers(40.41's) are awesome. I got my score with stock speeds up to 11,659 3DMarks, .....and with a final O/C of 141 FSB on my AthlonXP 2000(1762.5MHz) and vid card at 324/738 I got a score of 12,670 which is passed my goal of 12,500. I tried to reach 13,000, but I just wouldn't go. I'm not complaining though. :D
Here ya go:

pcmkr
09-02-2002, 10:11 AM
Here's the details:

drpeterbright
09-02-2002, 10:12 AM
Way to go pcmkr. My max overclock on my Ti4200 score is 11,330 with the 40.41's. Amazingly, with no overclock and only using the nVidea tweaks they give me over 11,150!!

pcmkr
09-02-2002, 10:19 AM
Thanks alot drpeterbright ! Think I'm done tweaking for a few days :p

That's an awesome score to get with the Ti4200. Wonder what scores you would see with the Ti4600...

:cheers:

FLaCo
09-03-2002, 01:38 AM
GJ PCMKR...one badass score...i remember when you were trying to break 11 k...lol:thumb:

drpeterbright
09-03-2002, 02:29 AM
Wait NV30 = 30K

pcmkr
09-03-2002, 09:22 PM
Thanks Flaco !

So you're gonna buy the NV30 when it comes out drpeterbright ? If it doesn't put a hole in your wallet let me know, maybe I'll get one LOL:laugh:

drpeterbright
09-04-2002, 03:06 AM
I'm thinking that it will be time to upgrade by then Actually I am so pleased with my 4200 I may not upgrade right away.

FLaCo
09-04-2002, 05:04 AM
I wouldn't upgrade right away especially with that lil' chip of wonder that you have PETER.

pcmkr
09-04-2002, 05:15 AM
I can't believe you got that thing passed Ti4600 speeds :eek:

drpeterbright
09-05-2002, 10:09 AM
I run it detuned to where it scores about 11,150 with new 40.41's. Very stable, no visible artifacts & not running settings in any games that require more speed than that. I think we are all spoiled. Remember when my voodoo was so fast it scared me.

CMCHomer
09-12-2002, 03:04 PM
I must have one pile o **** gforce 4 Ti4200 because it just dont like going over 10000 any more. I put better cooling on it aswell.

It has got to be the OS ( Windows 2000 service pack 3 )

Im starting to get pissed of with it :(

meijuan
09-12-2002, 10:08 PM
How about upgrading to XP Homer? That might make a difference for you.

Wiggo
09-12-2002, 10:46 PM
Yes 2K was never really meant to be a 3DMark or Gaming os by the time it got to the public. :(
<center>:cheers:</center>

pcmkr
09-12-2002, 10:56 PM
Even comparing WinXP to Win98 I saw an improvement in score. I thought Win98 was the best for high scores, but XP seems to be even better. :geek:
XP rocks so far!
Watch out for SP1 - I read that some are seeing decreases in scores when installing SP1 for XP.

:cheers:

DaoWay
09-14-2002, 08:55 AM
Where did you see that pcmkr about lower scores in SP1? I'd like to read about that.

pcmkr
09-14-2002, 09:01 AM
I can't remember the site I saw that at. Hopefully I can find it. If I do I'll get you the link.

DaoWay
09-14-2002, 09:05 AM
Thanks pcmkr.

pcmkr
09-14-2002, 09:05 AM
Wahoo, here's the link. Didn't think I'd find it. >> http://www.gamesmack.org/features/xpsp1/xpsp1_pg1.shtml

There's a chart at the bottom that shows the scores before and after.

The__tweaker
09-14-2002, 10:00 AM
Here are my score with the 40.41 drivers, the system was not oc when i run this test. Can't wait for my new 2.53 ghz cpu to arrive... *drool*

:)

drpeterbright
09-14-2002, 10:15 AM
I've had nothing but good luck with the 40.41's and scores.

Glaucon
09-17-2002, 02:38 PM
Hi guys, im new to the forums.. Well, here is what i got.

p4 2.4Ghz 533FSB
Gigabyte GA-8IE
256DDR (266Mhz)
XFX G4 Ti4200 64Mb
Seagate 60gig 7200rpm HDD
Win XP Pro /w 40.41 drivers

stock (250/513) - 10710
OC'd (300/610) - 11681
OC'd (305/620) - 11798

any more and i get artifacts ;)
Pretty good for 64mb 4200 though eh

pcmkr
09-22-2002, 05:29 AM
Pretty good for a Ti4200. :thumb:

You can see my normal score with my Ti4600, but I had to take that out to have it fixed and so I am temporarily using a TNT2 M64 LOL. I ran 3DMark after putting it in and got a score of 759. I almost fell to the floor when I saw that. :eek:
Guess I'll have to run all my games a low res with all detail low until I get my regular card back. :rolleyes2

BIGRHINO
09-23-2002, 01:25 AM
AMD XP2200+
KT3 Ultra 2 (MSI)
512 meg DDR 333
GeForce3 TI500 (evga)
Maxtor 40 gig 7200rpm HDD
Windows XP Pro

default drivers
No overclocking

3dMark2001 SE 8451

Raven
09-23-2002, 05:03 AM
I got 7xxx because of this:

Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53Ghz) running at 1.61Ghz
Geforce 3 overclocked to 285/530
512MB DDR Ram....

Basically I'd just put together my new system, I tweaked it out a bit, got my score, then set it all back to normal. :D

What mobo are you running? I havent tried to OC my Ti200 yet. This score (linked) is just from raw CPU OC. I'll get around to posting a pic when I OC the vid card.

Overclocked (7174): http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4545450
Stock (6671): http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4524308

drpeterbright
09-26-2002, 12:22 PM
Just tried the 40.52 drivers and at the same level of overclocking that produced 11,330 with the 40.41's I got 11,416.

off road
09-27-2002, 02:30 PM
I have been playing around with my new card I have a XP1600 not over clocked and Ti 4400 I am running win. XP and got a score of 10605 I want a new cpu.

FLaCo
09-27-2002, 03:26 PM
Over clock it to a 1800 its like getting a new cpu for free...but remember to get good ventalation...as well as a good Heatsink.:)

Wiggo
10-25-2002, 07:57 PM
Just done my first run on this new setup at stock and got this. :)

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-25-2002, 10:53 PM
is that the "comming soon" set up?

Wiggo
10-25-2002, 10:57 PM
That it is. :D

:beer: :beer: :beer:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-25-2002, 11:08 PM
lol I"m sure the hardware is secret as of now eh?

Also are you frustrated that you can't beat the 10K barrier? Kind of like I can't beat the 7K barrier? :laugh:

and nice score also. :thumb:

Wiggo
10-25-2002, 11:13 PM
Well it ain't top secret its just that I havn't started the page for it yet. :devil win
<center>:cheers:</center>

pcmkr
10-26-2002, 03:22 AM
Some tweaking and I'm sure you could get that over 10,000 :thumb:

Wiggo
10-26-2002, 05:00 AM
pcmkr I'm sure about the 10k but how close to 11k I can get is the big question. :devil win

Ok no secret now as the page and link are done (I just won't tell ya's that it ain't in the case yet and is sittin' on the shelf above my head runnin' naked). :devil:
<center>http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons/happy/143.gif</center>

Wiggo
10-26-2002, 06:08 AM
Well I just bumped the v/c up a little to 270/500 and got this. :thumb:

pcmkr
10-26-2002, 07:42 AM
Pretty sweet! Thunder looks to be a promising system. 11K doesn't look like it's out of the question. A week of burning it in should help, get better O/C's. BTW how do you like your Leadtek GF4? I'll like mine once I get an operational one back. Been without it for several weeks now... :(

Wiggo
10-26-2002, 03:37 PM
Hey the Leadtek so far has been great and the picture is crystal clear. :thumb:
<center>:cheers:</center>

pcmkr
10-26-2002, 04:03 PM
Monday I get my vid card back, hoping it works right this time.

:cheers:

Wiggo
10-27-2002, 01:31 AM
Ok I just moved the FSB up to 140MHz givin' it 1900MHz and got this :?:

Wiggo
10-27-2002, 05:05 AM
Well I guess that earlier question of mine has been answered now (oh I gave 2000 a run and fell 256pts short of 15k). :devil:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-27-2002, 06:41 AM
congrats! :D

but truthfully I think breaking the 10K barrier is a bit more special then the 11K. I mean remember your post count when you broke 10K? What was more special breaking 10 or 11? :confused:

Or even more. The Athlon broke the 1GHz barrier. What was more special athlon breaking 1gig or P4 breaking 2 gig? :confused:

but anyway that's good. Now if only I can get mine to break 7K....:(

but nice job there :thumb:

pcmkr
10-29-2002, 05:10 AM
GJ Wiggo! :thumb:

It's nice to just blow by your goals like that.

I got my vid card back today and it's working good. I believe they actually fixed it this time. Something stupid though, even though it's a Leadtek they gave me the card with the stripped down heatsink like those found on Nvidia's refernce GF4 cards. No more big alluminum heatsink :( It seems to work just as good, but let's see how well it O/C's...

Nicklt77
11-07-2002, 11:07 AM
Here are my latest 3DMark2001SE build 330 scores(13417)
Also, I was wondering how much effect upgrading to the a special edition HD with 8mb cache would have on the score.

Thanx:smokin:

Nicklt77
11-07-2002, 11:32 AM
Sorry, almost forgot!:crazy:

Corbinator
11-08-2002, 04:39 PM
Okay here's the damage...

http://members.roadfly.com/corbinator/Demon.JPG

This is the first benchmark I've ever done, so I'm not sure if I have everything configured with the new setup. I'm not sure if the dual monitor setup slowed it down or not, the second screen just sorta flickered while the benchmark ran.

Anyway, I'm happy with it.... for now!

Oh yeah, system specs

P4 2.4 533
1G PC2700 333
Albatron PX845PE Pro II
(2) WD se 80G 8M buffer
Leadtek Ti4600
(2) ViewSonic E90fb (both @ 1600x1200)
WinXP Pro

[EDIT] No overclocking!!!

Wiggo
11-08-2002, 11:36 PM
So when are ya goin' to overclock? :?:

Nice score but I'm sure that you can do a lot better. ;)

:beer: :beer: :beer:

pcmkr
11-09-2002, 04:49 AM
You should be able to at least get into 12,000 w/ that setup, probably get past my O/C score. Go nutz! :shoot:

:cheers:

FLaCo
11-09-2002, 09:36 AM
GJ Carb...nice work bud. With a lil bit of tweaking and new drivers and overclocking...you should hit 12000+ easy.:thumb:

Corbinator
11-09-2002, 09:47 AM
Thx Flaco, for all the help and tips too! :cheers:

I'm really happy with it, the numbers aren't even with the HD's setup with RAID. I'm not too worried about pushing it to the limits, I'd probably only do it for the numbers! :afro:

Beside only being able to use 1 drive on the parallel IDE RAID, at least I can look forward to being able to just upgrade CPU and HD's with SATA. The board can handle 667FSB with overclocking! :bounce:

[edit] I think I'm gonna run it again with the 2nd monitor disabled, just to see what occurs.

FLaCo
11-09-2002, 04:25 PM
Thx Flaco, for all the help and tips too! :cheers:



[edit] I think I'm gonna run it again with the 2nd monitor disabled, just to see what occurs.

Np man...and remember turn off anything that is taking up resorces...i disconnect my cable modem from my lan card and that boosted my numbers...so do as much as possible...look into bios under AGP perfeormance and check and see if there is any tweaks like "enhance AGP perforance"...something along those lines...:thumb:

Corbinator
11-09-2002, 07:28 PM
Well, I just ran another test, although I didn't see your comments tilll just now, but I disabled the second monitor and it up to 11,217. Network still running, firewall, etc..... I'll have to do another on later.

mrfin
11-10-2002, 09:27 AM
Here is my scores on my new system. This is with no overclocking.
Link - http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=4997185

Wiggo
11-11-2002, 01:29 AM
Ok I just run it on this new setup with no tweaks yet.

Athlon XP1800+
Epox 8K3A
Gigabyte Maya R9000 (the cheap ass model, $140aus)
256MB Kingmax PC2700
40GB WD Protege
Win98SE

Wiggo
11-11-2002, 02:30 PM
Okies I've did a little bit tinkerin' and moved the XP1800+ to an XP1900+ then hit the R9000 up from 250/200 to 260/220. :)

FLaCo
11-11-2002, 02:43 PM
Squeezing all the juice huh WIG?:laugh:

Wiggo
11-11-2002, 05:22 PM
Not yet but that will happen when I drop the memory back to FSB speeds. :devil win
<center>:cheers:</center>

Valkyrie
11-15-2002, 03:02 AM
I dont Know what relevence This has but half way through the thread every one started talking about bandwidth and T3 but have any of yous heard of OC-256 its a type of Fibre Optic Connection I think Look here =

An OC-256 circuit enables data transmission at 13,271,000,000 bits
per second

OC-1, 51.84 Mbps. OC-3, 155.52 Mbps. OC-12, 622.08 Mbps. OC-24, 1.244 Gbps. OC-48,
2.488 Gbps. OC-192, 10 Gbps. OC-256, 13.271 Gbps. OC-768, 40 Gbps

Oh and My 3D mark Scores are a lazy 5609 hmmmmm

Valkyrie
11-18-2002, 12:10 AM
Okay After a little tweaking i get something that looks like this

ReSpAwN DeMoN
11-19-2002, 04:23 AM
wow........I just updated to those new 40.72's like a half hour ago. And ran good 'ol 3dmark2001 se. Look at the score that I got. Go me.......Go me......... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://bellsouthpwp.net/R/e/RespawnDemon/tt/3dmarkcurrent1.jpg

FLaCo
11-20-2002, 02:54 AM
Put it next to the window and over clock the bad boy...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
11-20-2002, 05:54 AM
I plan to then I'll post the score. I"m hopeing to hit maybe 7500 if I'm lucky. I got my board to 140 before and I'm gonna try and get it to 145 or 150. But I'm afraid I'll kill something like my video card or HDD. I'm very paronoid. :(

Valkyrie
11-20-2002, 04:53 PM
you should be able too, I get 150 out of my ****ty board with crap ram

Malabooboo
12-02-2002, 04:06 PM
my first attempt...

Mercenary
12-04-2002, 04:50 AM
http://members.lycos.co.uk/auron2002/BenchMark.JPG

Not too bad I guess :)

mrfin
12-04-2002, 06:12 AM
How did you get that score with your setup? Is your system OC'd? Video card OC'd? Did you run your benchmark at the default 1024x768x32 or less? That is a great score for your system and video card. Let us know how you did it.

Wiggo
12-04-2002, 06:43 AM
Well unless he has an old version of the software it does state that the benchmark was not run at default settings. Mind ya though that should be pretty close as I get nearly 12k with an XP2200+ and GF4 Ti4200.
<center>:cheers:</center>

Mercenary
12-04-2002, 08:53 AM
yeah was a lil bit less, i'll let you know the score when i do the res at 1024 etc, but i dont think it was much different. No nothing is overclocked, i dont do overclocking. :) Scared incase I fu* summat up big time.

mrfin
12-05-2002, 02:10 PM
Well, I lowered my settings and got 14285. see pic below. I can't wait for the new FX to see how much better it is than a 9700pro. We should see some very high benchmarks, stock and OC'd.

CheeZmonZter
12-06-2002, 02:43 AM
How does one geta screen shot of the scores I would like to post my score but am not quite sure how to post the screen shot. and with all of these scores way over 10,000 but not using the 3dmark defaults whats the point?:confused: Isnt that cheating? and pointless?

mrfin
12-06-2002, 02:50 AM
If you hit the Ctrl and PrintScrn buttons at the same time it will take a picture of the active window. If you hit just the Print Scrn button it will take a picture of your entire desktop. Then open Word or Photoshop and Paste it in. Then just attach the file to your post. I only lowered my resolution to show a previous post that you can go much higher without the defaults. My default setting score with no OC'ing is listed in my signature. I wouldn't say it's cheating, because everyone can see that the defaults were not run.

Wiggo
12-06-2002, 02:53 AM
Yes it's not nice that they don't run the default test but then their score sheet gives them away. :laugh:

To take a screen shot hit Alt+Print Screen then open Paint and hit Ctrl+V. ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>

mrfin
12-06-2002, 03:24 AM
OOPS!! I, err, meant ALT, not CTRL.

CheeZmonZter
12-06-2002, 03:52 AM
Ok I have run 3dmark 2001 three times and am unable to get it to run under default settings. Is this because I have the Demo Version of it? Any help in getting this thing to run default would be good. I havent changed any of the settings and even tried to reset it to "defaults" but to no avail. so for what it is worth here are the results.

Mercenary
12-06-2002, 04:53 AM
I've ran the test again on the default settings and i got 12485 this time. Lost about 100 points I think :)

For some reason tho my gfx card is only running at 2x agp instead of 4? Any ideas how to change it back please?

CheeZmonZter
12-06-2002, 06:10 AM
To set your AGP you need to enter your BIOS When you boot your computer you got into the BIOS and change it there.

mrfin
12-06-2002, 06:23 AM
Also in the display properties, under settings, advanced, then in the Geforce settings there is a setting to change the AGP for the card. It depends on the drivers you have also. I know the setting is there for the 40.72 and 41.09 drivers. Make sure you have the latest chipset and AGP drivers for your motherboard also. Everything should be up to date first before changing any settings.

Wiggo
12-06-2002, 06:30 AM
Go and download the latest version as only early versions of '01SE had that problem. When ya got the latest installed just hit the "Run Test" button and that's it to a default run. ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>

CheeZmonZter
12-06-2002, 06:16 PM
well as you can see just changing versions of 3Dmark gave me a better score. Hey Wiggo thanks for the Tip. I have one question though: I can't run my moniter at 85 Hz now. When I run 3dmark it locks up. I Played with the settings and it will only run at 60Hz now. Any ideas why?:drunk: :cheers: :beer: :thumb:

Wiggo
12-07-2002, 02:07 AM
Make sure that ya don't have Vsync enabled under driver properties first and if ya still stuck there then RefreshForce (http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/) is what ya'll need. ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>

mrfin
12-07-2002, 02:18 AM
Also, to get the highest benchmark score from your system, in the same driver properties that Wiggo is referring to, make sure that table fog is off and best performance is selected.

Malabooboo
12-07-2002, 09:32 AM
I just got a new MSI G4 Ti4200 Card and the first thing I did was run this test, and this is what I got. Is this pretty good for no tweaks? How high can I overclock this thing?

Immortal
12-09-2002, 07:41 AM
Hello :>

I have a little problem , but first my specs...

Athlon XP 1700+ OC 1650 Mhz (Fsb 150)
384 Ram (Kingston Cl.2)
Msi K7T266 Pro2A
Ati Radeon 9000 (250/200)
Windows ME
Via pack 4in1 4.37

in 3D Mark 2001SE got about 6500 (defualts settings only res drop to 640x480x32) and about 4700 in 1024x768x32. My question is why my scores are so low ? :( I use Ati Catalyst 4.13.01.9069. Also in SMARTGART menu when i want to run fast write , after reboot he automaticly switch to fast write off (I have fast write enabled in bios) any ideas why ?. Thx in advance :-)

slanger231
12-12-2002, 03:17 AM
I score 10628 3dmarks.

Asus A7N266-VM
Athlon XP 1800+
512MB DDR333
Geforce4 TI4200 128MB
Nforce Audio
MCP Inegrated Nic Card
2x20Gig Hardrive
16x DVDROM
Win2k Sp3

Wiggo
12-12-2002, 06:03 AM
Immortal make sure that ya have Vsync turned off as well as any unnecessary running background processes. We only concern ourselves with the full default test (1024x768x32) but ya should be around the 7000pt mark though ;)
<center>:cheers:</center>.

Malabooboo
12-12-2002, 03:08 PM
I know this is off the topic, but really quick...Immortal, I see you got a Msi K7T266 Pro2A there--they're selling at fry's for $60 and was wondering if it was worth it.

Opinions?

Immortal
12-12-2002, 06:23 PM
Yep , i think it was worth it , everything works fine , nice overclock options ( i was confused when i saw Ami bios ... but i can run my Athlon Xp 1700+ at 150 fsb :D with standard air cooling) , so you dont get any better motherboard for 60$ (i paid 64$).

Anyway i upgrade my Catalyst to version 2.5 , but still i get only 4700 in 3D mark 2001se defaults , and yes i have vsync off and no unnecessary procces running. I really dont know what to do :(.

RDR
12-14-2002, 09:12 PM
Yep , i think it was worth it , everything works fine , nice overclock options ( i was confused when i saw Ami bios ... but i can run my Athlon Xp 1700+ at 150 fsb :D with standard air cooling) , so you dont get any better motherboard for 60$ (i paid 64$).

Anyway i upgrade my Catalyst to version 2.5 , but still i get only 4700 in 3D mark 2001se defaults , and yes i have vsync off and no unnecessary procces running. I really dont know what to do :(.

what kind of Radeon9000 do you have?
there seems to be a lot of variation from mfg to mfg and model to model....some are real POS's

Immortal
12-17-2002, 03:56 AM
HIS Excalibur Ati Radeon 9000
Hynix 4ns
250/400 (core/memory)

O use latest Ati Catalyst v. 2.5.

RDR
12-19-2002, 04:48 AM
HIS Excalibur Ati Radeon 9000
Hynix 4ns
250/400 (core/memory)

O use latest Ati Catalyst v. 2.5.

The HIS 64MB R9000 non-Pro uses 64bit DDR memory....if that's the card you have, it explains why your scores are so low

Immortal
12-19-2002, 07:33 AM
Hmm does every Radeon 9000 non-pro uses 64bit DDR memory ? or its only my HIS ? Becuse i saw scores about 6500 marks for Radeons 9000 non-pro.

Wiggo
12-19-2002, 08:05 AM
Ya must of seen my score when I first stuck mine in as just a little bit of tweakin' took me over 7K and the last was 7387pts but there's still more in it yet (maybe not much but 7500 will do me for a server). :devil win
<center>:cheers:</center>

RDR
12-19-2002, 11:50 PM
Hmm does every Radeon 9000 non-pro uses 64bit DDR memory ? or its only my HIS ? Becuse i saw scores about 6500 marks for Radeons 9000 non-pro.

From the HIS website - the non-pro 64MB uses 64bit DDR memory, the non-pro 128MB uses 128bit DDR memory, both of the Pro's 64 & 128MB use 128bit DDR memory....so from what I can see it's only the bottom-of-the-line model that uses the crappy RAM

...you've got to be real careful & do your home work before you but a Radeon9000 - like I said before some are real POS's
HIS isn't the only co. to pair the R9000 chip with low perf. memory either...i'm pretty sure Powercolor has done the same thing.
I'm sure there's a market for cards like that - but it makes for some disappointed consumers, especially since there isn't anything in the card name to warn you.

Wiggo
12-20-2002, 12:08 AM
Well I'm glad that I got a cheap ass Gigabyte Maya R9000 then as it does have "High performance dual-channel 128-bit DDR memory interface supports 64MB configurations". Same price here for one as a quality GF2 MX440 or "Yum-cha" GF4 MX420 but the performance of a GF3 Ti200 plus DX8.1 support. :thumb:

Why would anyone consider a GF MX card now? :confused:
<center>:cheers:</center>

Immortal
12-20-2002, 02:01 AM
Thx RdR for makeing this situation clear :). Damn i will never buy any HIS card again !
Tomorow i will have Gainward Geforce 3 Ti500 and i hope this time i will have no problems , and maybe have 10k in 3d mark :).

mrfin
12-20-2002, 02:09 AM
It is very likely that you will be around 10,000 marks. Here is my score for my Ti500 when it was in the computer listed in my sig - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5003832 I will never use another ATI card. Nothing but problems from the get-go. I have had only one problem with nVidia based cards and that was because the card was bad. I still use my Ti500 regularly. It has proven to be an excellant card. It also out performs any G4 MX version card.

RDR
12-20-2002, 02:22 AM
It is very likely that you will be around 10,000 marks. Here is my score for my Ti500 when it was in the computer listed in my sig - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5003832 I will never use another ATI card. Nothing but problems from the get-go. I have had only one problem with nVidia based cards and that was because the card was bad. I still use my Ti500 regularly. It has proven to be an excellant card. It also out performs any G4 MX version card.

I don't think Immortals situation has anything to do with Ati - the card was made by HIS, and for what it is (half of the memory bandwidth) it works fine....the GF4MX420 is more or less the same thing....it just really pays to research the specs on low end cards before you buy.

I've used at least one version of every Geforce and Radeon generation & not experienced any problems other than with the very early R8500 drivers...both types of cards have their individual merits.

mrfin
12-20-2002, 02:56 AM
I was just stating that I personally would not use another ATI card. I know his was not made by ATI. Right now the 9700pro is the best card out, but I still have had better experiences with nVidia based cards, notably the VisionTek line. Also, from what I have heard, ATI based cards are built better and perform better than ATI's own cards. RDR, you are right about each card having it's own merits, it's all about each person's own experiences with different PC hardware. ATI has also put a lot of effort into there newer drivers and have had far fewer problems than in the past. For ATI to come out with the 9700pro and blow doors over any other card proves that they know what they're doing. It great to see someone else other than nVidia be on top. This will just make us users benefit from two companys striving for the top spot. Just looking at the specs of the Geforce FX makes me wonder how lifelike gaming will be in the future. I am now eager to see what ATI will do to compete with the FX card. I just wish they would lower prices on the new cards. Yeah right, llike that will ever happen.

Immortal
12-20-2002, 11:05 AM
Well i used before this Radeon , Geforce 2 and after upgrade i didnt notice much better quality in 2d , but i notice , big differnce in quality of tv - out , on Radeon was just great , and on my old Geforce 2 hmm not bad , but nothing to compare with Ati. Anyway i going back to Geforce again , today i will have this Ti500 , and see what can i get from this baby :D.

catdug
12-22-2002, 09:58 AM
I just updated my drivers to the Detonator 40.72 and my score jumped up an average of 150 points to a modest 5847 3Dmarks. It's still one of the lowest scores w/similar processor/video card as my configuration, according to project search and compare on the madonion/futuremark website. Why?

Wiggo
12-22-2002, 11:15 AM
That's easy as the prob lays with ya motherboard and memory bein' a rather large bottleneck. Basically ya CPU can throw information at the memory faster than the memory can throw it back and then there is the video card plus other DMA hardware that must have access to this pittifully slow memory. A significant increase in performance could be gained by a new motherboard and DDR memory alone plus would give ya a stepping stone for further upgrades later (maybe a "Barton" AthlonXP, some USB 2.0 devices, etc,..). :devil win
<center>:cheers:</center>

catdug
12-22-2002, 07:37 PM
I noticed on the Chaintech website that I could flash my bios with an upgrade and my MoBo would be able to accept an Athlon XP 2000+, 2100+, or 2200+ CPU(it currently will only accept Duron and Athlon up to 1.5 Ghrtz). Now, how can that be? I thought those faster processors used a much faster chipset like the KT333 or similar. I only have a KT133. Can I really upgrade my MoBo bios to where I can use an Athlon XP with my lowly KT133?:confused:

Wiggo
12-22-2002, 08:04 PM
It is possible but why would ya honestly want too? :?:
<small>never seen a KT133 that would run at 133MHz FSB though</small>

The faster the CPU the bigger the bottleneck becomes. :eek:

:beer: :beer: :beer:

catdug
12-22-2002, 08:14 PM
Okay, what about this. Say I flash my bios and add a speedy Athlon XP CPU and then add another chip of 512mb pc133 sdram for a total of 1024 mb of memory. Would that be almost as good as having DDR memory?

Wiggo
12-23-2002, 12:28 AM
No. No matter how much memory you put in there you will not create more bandwidth. Your Duron throws data around at 200MHz, an Athlon at the speeds ya talkin' of at 266MHz, PC133's standard speed is 133MHz, now can't ya see what's wrong here? A Duron is better suited to PC2100 (this leaves 66MHz for DMA hardware to use without having to reduce the CPU's bandwidth to it), 266MHz FSB Athlons w/ PC2700 and 333MHz FSB Athlons w/ PC3200. This way the memory isn't a bottleneck and everything gets good access to it. With PC133 everything has to push and shove for what little is available thus the CPU spends a lot of cycles in a wait state while the memory tries to catch up. : peace2:
<center>:cheers:</center>

Immortal
12-23-2002, 12:34 AM
NO , SDR will never be that fast as DDR (even if you put Athlon XP in youre motherboard slow SDR is a large bottleneck for youre computer) Change motherboard , go even for 256 MB DDR (PC2700) , and Athlon XP+ and you should easily atain 10k in 3d mark 2001. Whatever you do , DONT put Athlon XP to this motherboard. Ihmo Wiggo is right "The faster the CPU the bigger the bottleneck becomes"

catdug
12-23-2002, 12:51 AM
Yeah, I see. Thanks for the info. So you reckon my 3dmark score is about right for my config? It'll have to do for now anyway. Someday I'll get me a new MoBo that supports DDR. More $$$!

Winxp
12-23-2002, 10:58 AM
Xp 2000 1.95MHZ
GA-7VAXP Ultra Gigabyte
512MB-DDR 3200
GeForce 4 Ti 4600 @
LG 48x16x48
LG-DVD 16x48
40 GB 7200 Ultra ATA/100 Barracuda ATA IV ST340016A
20G Quantium Fireball 5400
Case whit side panel Window and colour fan in midle

<small>I take it that this is where this and the other thread belonged? But ya need to run the default test though.
W</small>

Point Given
12-30-2002, 05:51 AM
Score: 9208

Date: 2002-12-29
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1203 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768 32bit


:flames:

luka
01-03-2003, 01:07 AM
Score: 12326 :flames:

Date: 2003-01-02
CPU: Intel P4 2.4 - 2.689GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 64MbRam
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768 32bit

luka
01-03-2003, 01:13 AM
here is snapshoot

STILLLIFE
01-04-2003, 06:43 AM
well here it is finlly hitting 15k

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5522680




amd 2200xp
asus A7N8X
2-256 pc2700 ram
radeon 9700pro
80gb 8mb chach hd

mrfin
01-13-2003, 11:35 PM
Well, I was comparing some 3dmark scores and look what I found. Look at the FSB on the right. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=4858059

STILLLIFE
01-14-2003, 01:07 AM
well picked up a 2400xp chip was abel to hit 17k gona let it burn in for a week then see what it can realy do with new ram
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5604497

mrfin
01-14-2003, 01:42 AM
This is just a waste of a perfectly good P4 1.7Ghz CPU. I just ran 3dmark on one of my work PC's. Check the pic. It's got an Intel board with PC133 RAM and a crappy ass ATI Expert 2000 Pro 32MB card.

mrfin
01-14-2003, 01:47 AM
STILLLIFE - What are you using for cooling? What are your temps at those OC'd speeds? Awesome score.

STILLLIFE
01-14-2003, 03:14 AM
well for cooling its a kinda home made rig its a
koolance waterblock got at compusa
radeator cooler from pepboys lol
only 3/8 hoses from homedepo
sub water pump from old fish tank
i can run 2481 24/7 with max temp of 37c
i got it upto 2560 but need a vmode can only goto 1.85 need 1.95 and 2.0 to get some hight mhz
i run my 9700pro at 380@330 for the 3dmark tests
and fsb anywere from 177 to 185 cant go over 185 need new ram

Corbinator
01-15-2003, 05:27 AM
Awesome numbers STILLIFE!!! I really need to learn how to overclock!

Wiggo
01-15-2003, 05:51 PM
mrfin[/size]]
This is just a waste of a perfectly good P4 1.7Ghz CPU. I just ran 3dmark on one of my work PC's. Check the pic. It's got an Intel board with PC133 RAM and a crappy ass ATI Expert 2000 Pro 32MB card. You are kiddin' right? :confused:

M8 my current Workshop PC gets 665 and really it's an under powered antique. :eek:

<center>:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:</center>

mrfin
01-15-2003, 10:14 PM
Wiggo - I wish I were lying.

Wiggo
01-15-2003, 10:29 PM
Well that's one P4 1.7Ghz CPU setup then that I can brag out beatin' with my K6-3+ @ 560MHz. :laugh:

<center>:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:</center>

mrfin
01-15-2003, 11:18 PM
It's all because of the vid card. I put my G4 Ti4600 in it and I got 7938. I did however convince my boss to start building our work PC's instead of buying them built. We have decided on Athlon XP 1800's, Asus motherboards w/nforce chipset and onboard nVidia graphics and PC2100 RAM. This is a much better and $400 cheaper setup than a P4 w/PC133 RAM and a CRAPPY ATI Expert 2000 vid card.

Wiggo - I bet that K6-3 you got still performs like new, huh? I got a couple of K6-2's lying around. I think I'll build a system around one of them.

mrfin
01-15-2003, 11:22 PM
WIGGO - I haven't looked at your PC list in your sig for a while. I like what you did with adding the pics.

The__tweaker
01-19-2003, 02:11 PM
Not to bad, done by a Swedish guy.

Intel P4 2260@3300, ATI (Connect 3d) 9700 Pro 440/760. Abit IT7 Max 2 ver 2 (Intel 845PE), Win Xp Pro. Kylning: (Prometeia CPU) (Peltier MCW40-T 80 Watt GPU) (Volt mod CPU/GPU)

Wiggo
01-24-2003, 11:02 AM
Ok here's my new P4 @ stock but I was expectin' more. :(

Wiggo
01-25-2003, 12:22 PM
Ok I set the video to 275/550 (same as Thunder) and the FSB to 140MHz (2.52GHz) but Thunder is still in front. :(

Wiggo
01-25-2003, 05:41 PM
Okies I'm startin' get somewhere now with a FSB of 150MHz @ 2.7GHz. :?:

Wiggo
01-25-2003, 06:26 PM
Up to 290/560 now. :)

nutty
01-25-2003, 07:48 PM
Here is mine
http://members.iinet.net.au/~nutty_33/tests/3dmark.JPG
I could have put more on the cpu and the GFX but stability is my biggest worry :) I hate losing things while in the middle

Wiggo
03-12-2003, 11:58 PM
Ok 1st results in from my new toy and this is givin' my P4 some curry before I've even o/c'd it;

XP2600+ 333DDR FSB
EPoX 8RDA+
2x 256MB Corsair XMS3500
Leadtek 8x GF4 Ti4200 My VIVO
WD JB400

Bog standard atm but showin' promise. :devil:

Wiggo
03-13-2003, 03:30 AM
I just added 14MHz to the FSB. :)

Counterhunter
03-16-2003, 12:45 AM
Here is my compare link for 3dmark01

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6094533

and here is my 3dmark03

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=364134

I can't wait 4 more days till my new geforce fx 5800 ultra is here!!!!:shoot3:

catdug
03-16-2003, 11:29 AM
Okay, here's mine: 9431 3dmarks average w/ default settings. I did manage to get 9516 once when I adjusted the performance settings for my adaptor after I installed the det. 43.00's(is that considered cheating?). Anyway, I'm pretty well satisfied with this score, considering I haven't overclocked anything. Still, I would like to hit the 10k mark someday though! Does 9431 look about right for my config?

jamie_horwood
03-20-2003, 03:25 AM
Ok, here is my best averages so far with just 32 bit direct 3d and 16 bit open gl. Direct3D set to High performance. Antialiasing switched off: Anisotropic Filtering Disabled. Mind you Infineon 512mb 2700DDR 166 mhz mem only running at 133mhz bus. As wiggo knows i ran these last night.

http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/componentcompare&projectType=6&cCriteria=1

http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectmanager

jamie_horwood
03-20-2003, 03:39 AM
I Just heard here on in that there are problems with the newest Detonator 43.00 drivers at www.guru3d.com... had any problems anyone??

catdug
03-20-2003, 06:46 AM
I've been using the det. 43.00's for about a week or two and haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. What kind of problems are they reporting?

Wiggo
03-20-2003, 07:05 AM
Someone, somewhere will always have probs with any Det version. With the large combinations of hardware available today this is inevitable plus www.guru3d.com gets their drivers straight from nVIDIA. :beer:

Jim_E
03-20-2003, 11:18 AM
Hi all..I just wanted to know what version it is that you are using and where i can download it from? Also How big is the file???
Cheers:cheers:

catdug
03-20-2003, 06:58 PM
It's detonator driver 43.00 Windows 2000/XP for all NVIDIA graphics cards. It's available for download from this link: http://download.guru3d.com/detonator/ . And it's size is 23mb! If you're not using Win 2000 or XP, they have drivers available for different os.

jamie_horwood
03-26-2003, 06:45 AM
I downloaded the drivers 43.00 for win9x/ME from guru, and they didn't seem to work. Twice i have tried this now, even from majorgeeks.com But other versions i downloaded worked perfectly. This is all strange!!!!

jamie_horwood
03-26-2003, 07:36 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectmanager

11567 3D Mark Score

This is my penultimate best. Ihave my memory running at 166 Cas 3T normally and 178mhz 2.5T to run the benchmark. In either state. why does 3dmark and si sandra show my memory running at 133mhz. Doesn anybody know what might be happeing here?? I know that it must be running at these faster speeds , as i see an increase in marks. But until i upgrade my XP processor, and get some OCZ or XMS quality 2x 256 dual channel twinbank memory. RDR told me that the this A7N8X runs fast when using both dual channel. Plus i can't run my processor at any different multiplier except the 6x something it reads thus far. This doesn not explain the cause of this, is this memory in the wrong dimm, or when i buy my twinbank ddr, for slots 2 and 3 do i leave dimm1 out of the equation with no mem??

Wiggo
03-26-2003, 08:35 AM
I just turned up my GF4 Ti4200 VIVO to 275/550 on my XP2600+ and laid my P4 to rest (I better get some case fans in before I go any further though). :beer:

Hawks
03-27-2003, 11:49 AM
Could someone explain how they are saving the 3DMark2001 Score screen? So that I can post my score?

revenant
03-27-2003, 01:53 PM
I use a little program (it's freeware) called MWsnap. Just google that name and you'll find it. peace...

Wiggo
03-27-2003, 02:38 PM
Press Alt + Print Screen then open Paint and press Ctrl +V then save as a .jpg (extra programs are just a waste of space and totally unnecessary). :beer:

crazysniper22
07-17-2003, 05:14 AM
guys! where can i download 3DMark2001? link me plz!!

thanks in advance!

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Wiggo
07-17-2003, 10:36 PM
http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark2001.shtml ;)

The__tweaker
07-18-2003, 12:26 AM
Well my P4 at 2.26 Ghz scores a couple of thousand more than the XP2100+ Nforce2 rig even with the vidcars running close to sync in Gpu speed.. The P4's gpu is 300 Mhz and the Athlon is 290.. :shrug:

:cheers:

crazysniper22
07-18-2003, 03:13 PM
Finally!!! i got the 3DMark2001 thanks to Wiggo for linking me.

heres mine:

Default Settings:
FSB 133 MHz and Memory 266 MHz
3DMark2001 1024x768x32

Score: 13993 3D Marks


Overclocked:
FSB 150 MHz and Memory 300 MHz
3DMark2001 1024x768x32

Score: 15225 3D Marks

I'm gonna increase the FSB further more, i wanna see how far this thing can go :D

Can somebody tell me how to attached image to the post?

thanks!

Me *****!

Pentium 4 2.66 MHz FSB 533MHz
Kingmax PC3200 400Mhz 512 DDR Gold PCB
Sapphire Radeon 9700 Atlantis pro 128 MB
Gigabyte GA-8INXP Intel E7205 chipset with Dual Channel DDR and Dual Bios
AC97 Audio 6.1 Built Inn Sound Card
Seagate Barracuda 7200 120Gb Hard Disk
Vantec VP4-C7040 P4 Aeroflow Cooler P4 3.06Ghz+
Sony CRX220A1 52x24x52 CR-R/RW
Samsumg 16x DVD read and 52x CD-Rom
Panasonic 3.5 Floppy Disk Drive
Antec True-Blue 480 Watts Power Supply
Antec PlusView 1000AMG without PSU case
3 80mm Akasa Fan Nebula with 4 Colour Blade illumination
2 80mm Antec Smart case fan
1 twin 15mm HDD Cooler
AverMedia TV tuner
etc... etc...

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The__tweaker
07-18-2003, 03:39 PM
Why do I always get me ass whopped..?? ^^ :cry:

:laugh:

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

crazysniper22
07-19-2003, 01:38 AM
hey Flaco where did you get that plain black with kinda neon glow on your desktop background? i like that man, its nice.

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AsianBatman
07-31-2003, 01:43 AM
12567 with the rig i am running, thats OCed btw. The Score seems to change either up or down 100 everytime i benchmark. So thats the average. Is that even good for my Rig!!!!!:angryfire :flames: :grr:

meow
08-04-2003, 11:39 AM
http://www.tweaktown.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=122&password=&sort=1&cat=503&page=1


With more tweaking she'll go higher.

I think i need a life lol

/kittie looks for door


:flames:

Soulburner
08-06-2003, 09:26 PM
12567 with the rig i am running, thats OCed btw. The Score seems to change either up or down 100 everytime i benchmark. So thats the average. Is that even good for my Rig!!!!!:angryfire :flames: :grr:
Your RAM is really weak, I got 13100 on my old system, 2.4b (533fsb) and Ti4400 with 512mb PC2700. It was running at 2.6ghz and the card was at 300/600.

Just an observation.

benny_mankin
08-17-2003, 05:40 PM
So close to 19k, have been trying 50 times but i just can't reach it. i may need to re-format the HD. Does anyone know how to tweak radeon D3D? Or any suggestion? Thanx in advance :) ...

AsianBatman
08-17-2003, 05:46 PM
Your RAM is really weak, I got 13100 on my old system, 2.4b (533fsb) and Ti4400 with 512mb PC2700. It was running at 2.6ghz and the card was at 300/600.

Just an observation.

Yes weak, but i am broke and i am not gonna upgrade anytime soon, but its good enough to get the job done...for now until half life and doom3 comes out :cheers:

Wiggo
08-17-2003, 07:43 PM
Gee it's nice to know that my systems with their GF4 Ti4200's are still up there with most of ya's. :D

must look into buildin' a P4C I think :?:

Soulburner
08-18-2003, 05:55 PM
Current score is in sig, air cooling, 26c idle and 38c load.

Currently running 5:4, will get some high end ram sometime and run 1:1.

I want 20k and I know it is attainable.

CudofCow
08-19-2003, 10:15 AM
Not quite as fast as i'd like but i suppose it will suffice. I have yet to break the 10k barrier though. even after overclocking i can only get it up to about 9900, im so close!

Planning on getting a new MoBo and CPU before my birthday though so i cant wait to break my record.

AsianBatman
08-20-2003, 05:21 PM
My 3dmark score =D

AsianBatman
08-21-2003, 02:40 PM
OOps my benching wasn't on default =( i got all excited, bleh :cry:

Soulburner
08-21-2003, 05:50 PM
OOps my benching wasn't on default =( i got all excited, bleh :cry:
It should be able to do that 14k easy.

Put your image quality setting to High Performance and run it on default settings.

If you play with it enough it should do 14k.

EDIT: Maybe not, just noticed your RAM is a big bottleneck there.

AsianBatman
08-21-2003, 06:26 PM
Yep i know, don't have to rub it in soul...........:shoot3:

Soulburner
08-21-2003, 08:10 PM
Yep i know, don't have to rub it in soul...........:shoot3:
Just saying you have potential there :cheers:.

syx
08-21-2003, 10:24 PM
my higers score ever (same as now) is about 1900 3Dmark, no i didn't forget a 0!
look at my specs! Im gonna get a Ti-4200 (or TI-4800)and overclock the hell out of it, maybe no DX9 compatible but if i can play unreal 2 with a TNT2 i can play HL2 without DX9!
Furthermore the TI-4200 will cost less and perform more than a FX5600 or a 9600 pro for less (after overclock!)