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Pesty
12-01-2001, 04:40 PM
Anyone seen a comparison between the two with the new(er) Radeon 8500 drivers?
I seen a comparison between the GF3 Ti 500 and the Radeon 8500 over at Anand but i am interested about the comparison with the normal GF3 as well...

Darthtanion
12-01-2001, 11:27 PM
Haven't seen any like that. But considering that nVidia is trying to downplay the normal GF3 chipsets (to sell more of the Titanium models), it's not really too surprising.

The_Soup
12-02-2001, 02:50 AM
yeah i saw that review and i was so impressed about the RADEON 8500 that i bought one. i like how the 16 tab filtering is the same as the 64tab filtering (which can only be turned on by a hack in the drivers) on the GF3 TI500 with less of a performance drop. althought the smoothvishion could use a better performance hike it looks a lot better that the GF3 anti-lassing.

dejay
12-02-2001, 11:37 AM
The normal GF3 is on average ten percent slower than the GF3 Ti500 in most benchmarks I've seen.

Pesty
12-02-2001, 12:00 PM
ok ta

Psychosmurf
12-04-2001, 12:40 PM
So, I gather that "The_Soup" would recommend the 8500 then? I am considering one at the moment the go with my AthlonXP under WinXP in a Gigabyte mobo. Should really rock:shoot:

SileNceR
12-04-2001, 07:48 PM
I am trying to decide wether to get an 8500 or a "Gainward GF3 PowerPack !!!" at the moment...

RDR
12-04-2001, 09:01 PM
I'm happy with my Radeon8500 - although I had some stability problems under WinXP & had to go back to Win98se. New drivers are supposed to be better but I haven't tried them yet....

If it's within your means - get the retail as oppose to the OEM/3rd party - it's clocked at 275/550 & mine does 310/620 with a little extra cooling. OEM's & 3rd parties are clocked @ 250/500

The_Soup
12-07-2001, 08:37 AM
The radeon is great!! it is good in quake and the anti-lasing looks great! although the 6X only turns out 20 fps. i havent had any stability proublems yet. I highly recomend this card.

Onyx
12-07-2001, 01:20 PM
Raedon looks extrememly promising. ;)

MySTiCuSS
12-10-2001, 08:30 PM
I think I will also buy a Radeon!! What about the price is it cheaper?

RDR
12-10-2001, 09:14 PM
I got my Radeon8500 retail (275/550 clk) for $345 cdn - that's about $225US

the OEM/3rd party versions are cheaper - but are usually clocked at 250/500

MySTiCuSS
12-12-2001, 03:27 AM
So the Radeon is cheaper? But can it compare against a geforce 3?

RDR
12-12-2001, 04:20 AM
the GF3Ti500 beats it by a reasonable margin in most gaming benchmarks - a noteable exception is 3DMark2001 (check the AV 9429:thumb: ) a DX8 benchmark

this could mean that the Radeon 8500 may be faster when real DX8 games start to surface - or it might mean that the Radeon 8500 will always bench great and play games so-so - interpret it as you will

If you want the absolute fastest card to play todays games - nothing beats a Ti500
the Radeon8500 wil give you performance on the same games somewhere between a Ti200 & a Ti500, the price falls between the 2 as well.

I'm not even going to bring up the IQ debate:grenade:

Darthtanion
12-12-2001, 05:12 AM
I'm not even going to bring up the IQ debate:grenade:

Probably a good call. ;)

Morgan_Lander
12-18-2001, 11:20 PM
I've been a real skeptic of ATI in the past but the 8500 is a killer card. It's on the same level as the Ti500 with more STANDARD features.

MySTiCuSS
12-18-2001, 11:45 PM
I think I go for the radeon! Because It's a lot cheaper!

volton
12-19-2001, 07:17 PM
The Herc Ti 200 is looking the guts for me dude :cantfocus

Overclock it man !!

Morgan_Lander
12-20-2001, 01:21 AM
But that can be held back with the RAM. We all know the GPU has little to do with increasing speed if you're capped by your RAM.

Onyx
12-20-2001, 12:55 PM
The Radeon runs much higher stock core and mem speeds. That in itself while it could be just a marketting thing, it could also indicate ATI has higher QC on their manufacturing/fabrication process, thus yeilding chips that are able to handle higher frequencies. nVidia's chips don't even O/C to beyond 260-270 in their flagship range.

DVD/motion video playback is far superior on the Radeon - so I'm lead to believe, reading the reviews and comparisons around the net. TV out functions are also better than nVidia's offerings.

Anti-aliasing technology, pixel/vertex shader and the like are pretty similar from the two cards. But one issue is price. At least in the US, Radeons are slightly cheaper than GF3 Ti500's.

Morgan_Lander
12-22-2001, 09:57 AM
Hell, online you can get an oem radeon 8500 for under 200 shipped in the US.

MySTiCuSS
01-09-2002, 03:53 AM
200 dollar??? WOW!!!

Anonymous
01-18-2002, 03:45 AM
nod.. the 8500 is really looking up.. esp with the AIW 8500DV.. and if they got QC working for them thoose chips should oc'
without hitchs. Only concern for me is.. the drivers.. ATi has
lead in hardware and software before and these cards put
them back in the market, but in the past drivers have been
a one time thing... so which do you choose..??
-i think ima get myself a 8500dv this week :p