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Mr.Tweak
07-16-2003, 02:48 PM
I got the following email from a concerned ECS motherboard customer who had 2 motherboards catch on fire in the past little while.

It looks as if ECS had no regard for the motherboards catching on fire!


Dear unconcerned manufacturer,

I will be sure to forward this email to CNN when one of the motherboards in question burns down a kindergarden and
kills everyone in it.

One of your products is a danger to the public, thank you
for your lack of concern and general disregard for your customers.

Our company buys hundreds of IT products a year. I will be
sure that we (or dozens of my associates in the industry)
never buy your product again.

Thank You

p.s. When I eventually track down management within your company, I will be sure to also forward them these communications.

rmaservice <[email protected]> said:

>
> Dear indirect Canadian customer,
>
> You have reached ECS-USA RMA Dept. We handle warranty service for our
authorized distributors in the US only.
>
> Please reference ECS RMA policy posted on our website:
>
> http://www.ecsusa.com/rma/directcustomers.cfm
>
> ECS manufacturer warranty is offered to direct customers with a valid
> ECS
invoice only. Since our warranty is handled through the vendor channel, you
need to contact your vendor for RMA. Your warranty is limited to the period
offered by your vendor.
>
> Since your warranty already expired with your vendor, you won't be
> able to
get the replacement motherboards requested.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> ECS-USA RMA Dept.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ##############[mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: rmaservice
> Subject: Fire Hazard on K7SEM Motherboard
>
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is ############, I'm an internal IT manager for
> Asbex Ltd. We use many ECS motherboards throughout our company and
> have encountered a SERIOUS HAZARD with one specific model:
>
> We own two ECS K7ECM motherboards (rev 1.0 15-A01-010100)
> In the last 4 weeks we have had two identical motherboards running
> under different conditions, catch fire.
>
> Both units where running AMD Duron Processors on APC UPS units. The
> two computers where using different power supplies. Both where
> regularly dusted using Belkin canned air.
>
> * The damage occured on nearly identical places on both motherboards.
> Heavy capacitor damage on both as well as damage to the T105 SRS2525L
> chips.
>
> The attached AMD Duron processors also seem to be damaged when
> tested on other AMD compatible mother boards.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Allthough these boards are no longer under warranty, I have never had
> this serious of a problem occur on a ECS board or a board by any other
> manufacturer. I view this breakdown as both serious and potentially
> dangerous.
>
> I reguest to have new motherboards shipped to replace my units and
> would be willing to cross ship the damaged units for your own internal
> analysis.
>
*CONTACT DETAILS REMOVED*

What do you think?

amd_man2005
07-16-2003, 10:32 PM
I think Im glad I never got an ECS mobo. But since that was with the same CPU, and UPS, couldnt it possibl be an Issue with the certain CPU on that revision??? Whatever it is, thats a serious problem theyve got on their hands, First HSF's catchin on fire, then mobos, whats next?? OCZ PC3500 catches on fire???:laugh:

metallicat666
07-17-2003, 03:55 AM
if i set fire to my k7s5a would i be able to get my money back by claiming it just spontaneously combusted or something
then id be able to afford a new motherboard and get rid of my crappy k7s5a

weta
07-17-2003, 04:04 AM
Mr Tweak: Take a look at the ECS homepage (see attachment).

Mr.Tweak
07-17-2003, 08:41 AM
What am I looking for?

FLaCo
07-17-2003, 11:58 AM
prolly that it won Tweaktown's "Editor's Choice award"..

weta
07-17-2003, 06:23 PM
FlaCo: It's a different board.

My point is this, ECS is happy to publicise the fact that Tweaktown awarded them with an "Editors Choice" for one of their motherboards.
But when we try to make them aware of the problems being experienced by one of our members, which in extreme circumstances
could turn out to be a very serious problem, they totally ignore us. (Double standards?)

FLaCo
07-17-2003, 07:25 PM
FlaCo: It's a different board.

My point is this, ECS is happy to publicise the fact that Tweaktown awarded them with an "Editors Choice" for one of their motherboards.
But when we try to make them aware of the problems being experienced by one of our members, which in extreme circumstances
could turn out to be a very serious problem, they totally ignore us. (Double standards?)

HEY...i was close...:p

Mr.Tweak
07-17-2003, 07:34 PM
Hmm, good point!

I forwadred this email to my contact with ECS Taiwan but haven't got a reply back yet - when (and if) I do I will post about it here.



FlaCo: It's a different board.

My point is this, ECS is happy to publicise the fact that Tweaktown awarded them with an "Editors Choice" for one of their motherboards.
But when we try to make them aware of the problems being experienced by one of our members, which in extreme circumstances
could turn out to be a very serious problem, they totally ignore us. (Double standards?)

The__tweaker
07-17-2003, 11:45 PM
On fire..!?? :eek:

Man that should not happen, at least not at stock.. :cackle:

swinger
07-18-2003, 09:58 PM
anything can happen with ECS

The__tweaker
07-18-2003, 11:06 PM
Yes, it must be kinda exiting to own one.. :)

swinger
07-18-2003, 11:16 PM
no worries epox is on the way!

Wiggo
07-19-2003, 02:34 AM
ECS = :thumbs do

amd_man2005
07-19-2003, 03:02 AM
ECS or PCCHIPS=:thumbs do :thumbs do :knife:

minibubba
07-19-2003, 05:08 AM
ECS or PCCHIPS=:thumbs do :thumbs do :knife: don't forget biostar :barf:

Brian508
07-30-2003, 03:02 PM
:eek:
Notice of Warrning of Possible Fire hasards :angryfire:
to ECS Mother Boards
PC Owners Keep fire exstinguser near by
Server Custmers
Hilyd system Avaible apone request
This Warrning, Due to a case of dumb ass designing :eek: