View Full Version : monster farms for [email protected] & SETI

09-30-2003, 01:52 PM
check out these monster farms (http://ws9.jobnegotiator.com/html/flinks.html) they'r crazy, but powerful. kinda gets the creative juices flow'n. they use bare min. hardware,no HDD, system boots off USB floppy,and two mobo's on one PSU.looks cheap to build and lots of power. lots of other neat things too... :thumb:


09-30-2003, 04:16 PM
Nice find.
I saw the dual boards on single PSU trick before. and I think its a good idea.
I am in the process of getting all my KG7s in a rack that would hold them all, like in the pics. :thumb:
Now I have some material to reference to. :clap:

09-30-2003, 08:26 PM
Check Helpful Links for "Farmers." (http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11656), which in my opinion deserves a sticky. But alas. :(

09-30-2003, 10:14 PM
Thats where I saw the dual board trick before! :D
Im with you on the sticky :thumb:

09-30-2003, 10:34 PM
... I'm with you on the sticky :thumb: Thanks. I have plenty more to add, but if it isn't a sticky, what's the point? Tried the same thing in a few other topics, but no luck.

10-01-2003, 12:19 AM
Nice Find :geek: I.m not that clued up but if I can scrounge old boxes I'll give it a whirl:crazy:

10-01-2003, 12:24 AM
Thanks. I have plenty more to add, but if it isn't a sticky, what's the point? Tried the same thing in a few other topics, but no luck.

Consider it stickied :)

10-01-2003, 12:50 AM
Thanks a million! Will get to work adding more info asap. :thumb:

10-01-2003, 03:46 AM
amazing what a little whining will do:D
But I look forward to seeing more info on the DC arena.:thumb:

10-06-2003, 08:11 AM
After a little inspiration, I decided to go and look for Rackmount cabinet. is there a down side to havin one?

10-06-2003, 09:25 AM
I don't actually have one so I can't say for sure, but from what I've read, rack cases, shelves, rails and other accessories are pretty expensive. But if your just going ot be using normal tower cases and just keeping them in the rack, your fine :)

10-06-2003, 09:31 AM
You'll just be using it as a rack to hold the boards you have? I think you will find that filling it with 1, 2 or 3U cases and their respective hardware will be cost prohibitive. The cabinet may help to keep things neat an tidy, though.

10-06-2003, 10:14 AM
Actually what I am planning on is using shelves that are like 1or2U and mounting the mobo to it. I dont need each case to be locked, as the whole cabinet will.
Its 42U so I will have plenty of room.
btw, Shelves are available for like 20bux. Which is a lot cheaper than the $50 price tag on a good case with decent airflow.
Also since the guy Im buying this thing from is in the rackmount bussiness, he has anything and everything that I will need. And is a good hookup too, conisdering that the rack im getting is only 100bux.

10-20-2003, 01:26 AM
i like the way this one is set up.

10-20-2003, 04:46 AM
i like the way this one is set up. :eek: that is awsome, me likes very much :D It would still cost a pretty penny, but that would be some serious cunching power :lips:

10-20-2003, 10:27 AM
That is a nice setup. Any info available?

10-20-2003, 10:38 AM
heres what i copy and pasted off Monsters and Monster Farms...

Mainly XP1900+ on M814LR mobos, 128M DDR.

This is the Monster that generates most views and is also the most copied image of all the monsters on this site

The Rack
This came from RS - search for 519-087 and then navigate up a level to see the range of bits available. It's not cheap but is incredibly rigid and looks the biz. Sort of the Coolermaster ATCS of shelving. The best bit it that you get to assemble it by hitting stuff VERY VERY HARD with a rubber mallet. The adjustable feet worked very well.

The Power
I've been running one 8-layer module for a while so I know the power consumption. Yes, this sort of thing will always be expensive to run. I'm not short of money and have good reasons for wanting to do something rather self indulgent right now. I've always liked building complicated-looking things. I'd prefer to spend the money on this sort of craziness rather than e.g. a flashier car. Wealth warning - work out how much each WU costs and be honest with youself about how much you're prepared to spend on this 'hobby.' Don't spend more than you can afford just to keep up in the stats.
I'll be putting in a ring main in the garage, because things are close to the limit right now!
They don't auto power-on. However the power-on pins are wired to those panels of tiny push switches (bottom front of each block (apart from one I haven't done yet)). Connection is standard push-on molex sockets so something clever could be done later with relays if I felt like it. Woouldn't want everything powering-up at once, anyway.

It's in a double length-garage - plenty of air volume but ventilation is poor. I currently use a pedestal and a desk fan. With the recent hot weather it's clear that I need to exhaust the hot air. I'm about to buy an extractor fan. Fortunately there's a window which is by a shady corner at the back of the house, so that should be a source of cooler air.
The CPU coolers are cheap but under specced for the processors. I've not had any problems yet, though.

OS and Boot
I had planned to go netboot, NFS etc. but impatience got the better of me. I managed to get a load of old IDE disks and NT4 licenses, so they're mainly Windows on local disk. The disks are in a 'cage' (ally angle) at the back between each block of 4 PSUs. I plan to experiment with Linux/WINE and NFS, if only to reduce the power consumption. Interestingly the M841LR mobos have an 'F12 for network boot' feature built into the BIOS.

The two hubs at the bottom are cheapo Scan offers of the day: 16 port 10MBps hubs 18 quid inc VAT. The one at the top is a 10/100 MBps switch which is uplinked to a similar switch which the rest of my stuff uses. Internet connection is an ntl cable modem on a NAT router. I use SetiQueue on a UPS-protected PC.


10-27-2003, 11:03 AM
Thanks WB. Didn't realize it was from the Monster Farms (http://ws9.jobnegotiator.com/html/flinks.html) site.