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Flash
03-05-2002, 10:40 AM
Can anyone tell me what the best geforce 2 pci card is? I hear(from nvidia.com) that geforce 2 gts makes a pci version, but i have yet to see one. Any recommendations?

This is my setup, dont laugh please:

amd k6-2 550mhz
192mb pc-100 ram
Windows ME

Flash
03-05-2002, 10:49 AM
im also looking into a 3D Prophet™ 4000XT Video Card, 32MB, PCI
how would this work on my system?

Wiggo
03-05-2002, 11:43 AM
The nVidia based card is a GF2 MX which several companies such as Jaton, Powercolor and a few other budget companies.

Flash
03-05-2002, 12:58 PM
for geforce 2 i was mainly looking at the cardexpert geforce2 mx64 32mb pci card.

wtf is this? i cant find a geforce 2 gts pci card anywhere, what does "it supports pci" mean. http://nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=IO_20010528_5290

Wiggo
03-05-2002, 01:11 PM
Now that's strange as I've never seen higher than than a GF2 MX400 in PCI build and they are not very common so a bit of searching around will probably have to be done to find one. :smokin:
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Thoric
03-05-2002, 03:39 PM
the PCI versions stand up pretty well against their AGP counterparts...:thumb:

Anonymous
03-05-2002, 03:54 PM
for geforce 2 i was mainly looking at the cardexpert geforce2 mx64 32mb pci card.

wtf is this? i cant find a geforce 2 gts pci card anywhere, what does "it supports pci" mean. http://nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=IO_20010528_5290

Sure, it might support it but if no companies make a PCI version it doesn't does it... :)

Flash
03-05-2002, 09:42 PM
i see, good point. do you think the 3d prophet 32mb, or a card expert's geforce 2 mx64 would work better on my bottle neck setup? (i hear good things about cardexpert from pcworld magazine, so ill probably go with them if i get a geforce)

Wiggo
03-06-2002, 06:28 AM
The only prob ya may have is if the motherboard can't supply enough power to the card but most of these probs happen only with AGP cards but do make sure that where ever ya get it from will take a return if this is the case with yours as socket 7 motherboards were not designed with current hardware requirements. :smokin:
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Flash
03-06-2002, 07:35 AM
can you tell me which would work better on my rig, the card expert's geforce2 mx64 32mb pci card, or the 3d prophet 32mb. Does anyone have prior experience with either of these. Thanks for your help!

Wiggo
03-06-2002, 08:50 AM
I've never heard of the GF2 mx64 before so that a new one on me and the Kyro II card does have some issues with the drivers but what do you use this PC for? :?:
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Flash
03-06-2002, 10:54 AM
games, i run them the best i can. im not looking to run the new games, moh:aa, rtcw, because i know they would look like a blury slide show on my system. so i run games with expectations, knowing its limits.

Wiggo
03-06-2002, 12:03 PM
Well get a PCI GF2 MX 400 then. :smokin:
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Flash
03-07-2002, 10:32 AM
hmm, the card expert's pci is a mx200. should i go with a different brand? i was looking into the XTASY Geforce 2 MX 400 64mb by VisionTek, as well as the Verto Geforce 2 mx400 64mb by PNY. So many choices AHHHH

Wiggo
03-07-2002, 12:02 PM
Go with the MX400's as the MX200's have very poor performance. :smokin:
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Flash
03-07-2002, 12:20 PM
i would think that my amd k6-2 550mhz would bottle neck it anyway...

Wiggo
03-07-2002, 12:29 PM
You would still get better from the MX400 than a MX200. ;)
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Andy72
03-08-2002, 03:30 AM
I still have Hercules Prophet Geforce 2 MX PCI on my other system and its a very good card for its league.

Its great card to overclock since it has 5.5ns memory. Plays easily at 200/200 with no extra cooling (well, I have one case fan pointed to pci cards)

I use it on PIII 700 Mhz system and best 3Dmark 2000 score is 4903 and best 3Dmark 2001 is 2263.

Now these points might seem lousy compared to ones scored by new GF4's and 8500 with 2Ghz procs but for GF2MX(or MX400) system they are very good.

I do not have experience from other MX cards, but Hercules Prophet MX has been very good to me.( And payed only 99Usd for one a year ago)

Andy

Flash
03-08-2002, 06:13 AM
What games do you most ofted play w/ the hercules? What are your framerates, at what resolution?

Andy72
03-09-2002, 06:07 PM
Hmm I dont know about exact framerates but I play Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor and Max Payne at 1024x768 with 32bit colors. Details set usually where the games suggests - so medium I think. At those settings they play very well, no slowdowns or skipping.
Of course I have 700Mhz P3 and 256Mb ram to back things up so anything less and my words might not aply...

And naturally its easy to put any MX card on its knees with heavy detailing/high resolutions but I doubt this is what you want to do anyway.

My 2 cents ...


Andy

Btw, one option - not yet mentioned here is Radeon PCI card. For example Radeon 7200 64Mb PCI gives very similar if not a bit faster gameplay than any Geforce2 MX card ...

Thoric
03-09-2002, 06:11 PM
GeForce 2 MX's framerates will drop heavily after 1024x768, if you want to go for hi res gaming, your better off going with a gts or something with abit more kick.

Wiggo
03-09-2002, 07:45 PM
Thoric we're talkin' about a PCI vid card not an AGP one. :rolleyes2

zeradul
03-10-2002, 03:04 AM
Well, If an AMD k6-2 is your main machine, I feel for you. In all honesty, I can say that if you will be able to save any money in the near future, I would skip the vid card upgrade, and just wait a while until you can buy a real computer. AMD's processors pre-athlon were junk. They sold them pre-overclocked (basically) and they were weak and unstable. A K6-2 550, performs the same as a pentium2 300-350.

For a few hundred bucks you can build yourself a gigahertz plus system that will feel 20 times faster. GL.

Flash
03-10-2002, 07:53 AM
hrmm....lately i have been considering buying a barebone system, and working my way up from there. i was thinking about getting this one-

http://www.accubyte.com/applications/search/itemdetails.asp?sku=BB-K5A-146

i saw it on pricewatch, seemed like a pretty good deal. am i right? im just a kid, not working yet, so i wont be able to keep up with the latest hardware, but over time i would hope to create a gaming beast out of this. if anyone sees any other deals, feel free to inform :)