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Dallows
06-14-2004, 11:41 PM
I know some of the sapphire radeon 9800pros have 128bit memory instead of 256mb, is there a way to be sure or just buy from a trusted site like newegg. com?

metallicat666
06-15-2004, 12:02 AM
you mention 128bit and 256mb
what are you worried about less memory (mb) or a criplled memory interface (bit)
if its the amount of memory then it should say in the name or specs of the card. if its memory interface then dont get an SE. i think this is the only card with a crippled memory interface
from your post i think you may be meaning the amount of memory?

kwhite37
06-15-2004, 03:26 AM
You do mention 128bit then 256mb. I'm guessing you meant 256bit and are referring to the crippled 9800 Pro that Sapphire is putting out. One of the easiest ways to tell is by the price. You'll see the cards with the 128 bit interface running between $160 and 170 while standard boards are around $200 (I'm sure someone will post a link to a great deal on a standard board now that I said that :-). You can also tell if there is a picture of the card supplied. The 128 bit version uses a different PCB which has all the RAM lined up in a row while the standard 9800 pro board will have the memory laid out in a L shape. I think the the 128 bit version also uses the older power connector while the standard model uses the 4 pin molex connectorl. And if all else fails look at the descripiton of the item......I really wouldn't feel comfortable doing business with a site that didn't clearly list the board as a 128 bit version.

Dallows
06-15-2004, 05:52 AM
yeah, I'm a jackass, it was late, I meant 128bit and 256bit.

Yawgm0th
06-15-2004, 05:53 AM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-268&depa=0

wayout44
06-15-2004, 05:55 AM
If we are talking about the memory bus then all R9800P's have a 256-bit one (only R9800SE's have a 128-bit memory bus).

If you're talking about memory capacity then yes you can get both 128MB and 256MB versions of the R9800P.

kwhite37
06-15-2004, 09:14 PM
That's incorrect Wayout44, Sapphire makes a 9800 Pro with the 128 bit memory interface.

Yawgm0th
06-16-2004, 04:37 AM
Let's see it, then. They can call it a 9800 Pro all they want, but it's not.

kwhite37
06-16-2004, 05:41 AM
Well if you would have looked a little closer when you were on Newegg you would have seen it:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-369&depa=1

It is a 9800 Pro chipset on the board, it's just on a different PCB with a 128 bit memory interface. I'm not defending this card by any means.....but it does exist.

wayout44
06-16-2004, 06:25 AM
That's incorrect Wayout44, Sapphire makes a 9800 Pro with the 128 bit memory interface. Then by ATi's definition it's not a Pro but an SE plus Sapphire does not advertise it as a Pro either.

Yawgm0th
06-16-2004, 08:04 AM
In Neweggs description it is advertised as having the Pro chipset, but it doesn't say pro in the name and says 128-bit in the name. It could just be a mistake as it retains all of the qualities of a 9800 SE (even the price looks SEish). I still see no evidence of Sapphire calling it a Pro.

JSR
06-16-2004, 08:14 AM
the powercolor cards have 5ns hynix, if anyone's interested

kwhite37
06-16-2004, 09:14 AM
Here's a couple pictures of the box. I would say Sapphire IS marketing it as a 9800 Pro.

http://www.ati-news.de/Bilder/News/Sapphire/128bit/9800Pro128bit4.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20040522/image/wsap2.html

Yawgm0th
06-16-2004, 09:23 AM
The "128 bit edition," huh... How dumb....

Oh well. As long as you don't get something that says it's 128-bit, I wouldn't wory about it.

JSR
06-16-2004, 10:00 AM
the 9800 pro 128 bit edition was probably misinterpreted by my ancestors the japanese........notice it's a sticker on the box...........they meant meg.........regardless, the box calls it a pro.........it's probably the oem w/ a black pcb..........what's the price? also, you can get a hercules for around 195

Yawgm0th
06-16-2004, 10:08 AM
Except that it say 128MB DDR Memory, followed by 128 bit edition right underneath on the same box....

Plus, the Newegg card that was linked to (which you obviously haven't looked at) says it's a a 128 bit pro.

Dallows
06-16-2004, 11:06 AM
alright, we can stop this now, I was just double checking for my ease of mind. Don't go nuts, I'm not retarded.

Yawgm0th
06-16-2004, 11:09 AM
My post was directed at JSR, although I'm not accusing anyone of being retarted.
:cheers:

JSR
06-16-2004, 12:36 PM
still.......how dumb

Dallows
06-16-2004, 03:23 PM
I know you weren't, I was just stating for the record. And if you're talking about sapphire being dumb, then yes.

JSR
06-18-2004, 03:39 AM
absolutely.....