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Grunty313
11-01-2004, 05:21 AM
Hi i was thinking about getting a new graphics card for xmas but i dont know what one to get i got about 145 to get one what is the best one to get for this money and it should go well with my system
AMD athlon xp 3200+
512mb ddr 400 ram (single channel mode)(but hoping to upgrade to 1534 mb ddr ram if motherboard will take it)
asus a7n8x-e deluxe motherboard with nforce 2
120gb samsung 7200rpm hdd
currently using GeForce FX5700 256mb
so any advice on which graphics card to get for money will be great thanx and also could u tell just how much ram my motherboard will take without flashing the bios.....thanx.

Yawgm0th
11-01-2004, 05:34 AM
For that much, the best you can get is a 9800 Pro. The 9800 Pro is much better than that, but it's still hardly an upgrade. I'd suggest you throw some more money into the budget and make up for it by selling the FX5700. With the extra money, get a GeForce 6800 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/GeForce_6800.html).

Your motherboard will take another 512MB stick of RAM, no problem, and that's all you'll want. Get another stick of what you have now and you can run them in dual-channel.

Grunty313
11-01-2004, 06:08 AM
the fx6800 was the one i was thinking of getting to be honest off overclockers.co.uk as i was looking at it b4 i posted lol the gainward one is within my price range at 129 but i dont know if it will be that good the other one i was nosidering also was the gainward fx powerpack fx5900xt 128mb golden sample i had heard form many people that it is the best card in the price range of 145 and would even perform better than some 256mb g-cards in the higher price range is this true or not i might be willing to stretcb budget to 180 but thats about it.

wayout44
11-01-2004, 06:18 AM
Forget the FX5900XT as its a newted card (all nVIDIA XT's are newted and LE's are extra low speed versions of the basic models) so definately go with the FX6800.

Yawgm0th
11-01-2004, 06:23 AM
The LE on the site is much worse has it only has 8 pixel pipelines while a regular will have 12 and a GT/Ultra will have 16. It's worth it to get the regular 6800. I'd say to get the XFX 6800 they have listed.

Like Wayout said, forget the FX5900XT.

Grunty313
11-01-2004, 07:15 AM
k guys thanx for the advice i will definatly consider the xfx 6800 now but also will it give me a significant improvement in my benchmark results and gameing etc

Yawgm0th
11-01-2004, 07:30 AM
Yes. Even on an Athlon XP, it will mean a huge difference. Benchmarks will more than double in the 3DMark series, and you'll be able to play a games such as Doom 3 at a much higher resolution with higher quality settings and still get great framerates.

Grunty313
11-01-2004, 07:43 AM
so i will then be marking at over 6000 with just that xfx card installed but what about the ram will the extra ram make much of difference aswel or is it all graphics card when doin the benchmark

Yawgm0th
11-01-2004, 07:53 AM
For benchmarks, the RAM might make 5% difference at the most. Probably not even that much. In actual gaming, which matters more, it will make a huge difference in load times and the smoothness of the gameplay. It will even mean higher frames per second in some games.

matm347
11-02-2004, 04:53 AM
They did a columb on the RAM subject(I think on this site). They found that 1gig was the sweet spot for Doom 3 as far as framerates go. You'll be OK with 512, but for as cheap as RAM is, it would be worth getting another 512 of the same type.(Ultra mode in Doom3 takes up about 500 megs in textures alone)

I run 1.5 gigs now, up from 512. When I would play BF1942 I did notice it ran more smoothly when running/driving/flying.

One other route to consider is going with SLI.

All Nvidia 6 series boards will support SLI, but will require a dual 16x PCIX motherboard(Nforce4).
Depending on the price of the motherboard, you may spend the same amount now(if you went with a lesser 6 series card), but have the ability to double your graphics performance when you want with SLI.

The 6600 is on par with the 9800 XT/FX5950 GPUs

Yawgm0th
11-02-2004, 07:15 AM
If he were getting a new motherboard, waiting for a socket 939 boad with SLI capabilities would be smartest. But I don't see a new board and CPU as being feasible in this situation just yet.

sr4470
11-02-2004, 09:40 AM
Well the regular 6800 priced at 183, is 50 more than the LE (133) here in the UK, its around 33% faster...though its feasible to try enabling pipes with rivatuner and slightly overclock the LE to reach standard 6800 performance for 50 less.