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DevilsGT2
12-17-2004, 08:29 AM
I have 250-300 (US) to spend on a new vid card, but I don't know wether to get the 6600GT, or the 6800. One one hand, the 6800 has a more advanced chip, but on the other hand, the 6600GT has GDDR3 memory. Help please.

TheDudeWhoBe
12-17-2004, 10:48 AM
Hey ,I bought a 6800 for $257us sweet card overclocks well it is an xfx 6800 standard . Go with bang for the buck ...save some cash for next upgrade woot .. :beerchug:

Yawgm0th
12-17-2004, 11:17 AM
Just get the 6800. It's better; that's all there is to it.

DevilsGT2
12-18-2004, 07:06 AM
Thats what I thought, thanks guys.

Yawgm0th: You are god.

clockworkmep
12-21-2004, 01:45 AM
Well with the money you have the 6800 looks like a good deal, but if your system isn't all out powerful on it's own you may get some bottlenecking with the 6800. It all depends on your system! With your system, I'd say there may be a chance of bottlenecking, since your Processor is below 3 ghz. But i'd say its probably unlikely. Just think about upping your processor sometime soon. :smilies13

xm8
12-21-2004, 07:23 AM
The GDDR3 memory on the 6600GT won't help you one bit as far as end performance goes, since the card is even further crippled than the 6800. I have an XFX 6800 refitted with the Arctic Cooling NV Silencer 5 (the stock XFX cooler seemed at a little inadequate but if you don't overclock it will do more than enough). It is a wonderful card, and its among the cheapest of the 6800s.

Not to put down the 6600GT of course, because performance per dollar ratio is one of the best, up there along with the 6800 and 9700 Pro. And we know the 9700 is out of the question.

Day
12-21-2004, 03:01 PM
I believe the some of the best advice to be had is found here! It's where i personally have learned much, that being said think I would consider a different option. If you are talking pci-x, maybe the 6600gt could concievably be the better option. With N4-sli just hitting the stores the money saved could be put towards the newer motherboards. Asus it already introducing their first 2X pci configurations. One 6600gt could handle most anything out today. By moving to the newer board with a second slot alvailable in the future for sli configuration. It would seem to me to be the most inexpensive way to build an upgradable machine for the least with the most bang.

You didn't state what your cpu is, but if it is 939 capable. You would have a flexible base for excellent transional adaptation with what comes down the road in the future. In fact I myself am re-evaluating my options and putting off upgrades right now for just such an eventuality now. One thing I'm rather sure of is N4-sli is going to change things dramatically and faster than we anticipate. Feed back from the "Pros from Dover" on this would be appreciated greatly.

EDIT:
Reading further through the boards I see where YawgmOth posted similiar thoughts, see told ya i was learning!

Amd_Lover2004
12-21-2004, 07:07 PM
Why does every one keep refering to PCI-E as PCI-X??? not cool.

Yawgm0th
12-22-2004, 10:05 AM
Well here's something new you can learn, Day...

PCI-X, or the extended peripheral component interconnect (PCI) bus, is not the same thing as PCI-E, A.K.A. PCI Express. PCI-X is basically a faster version of PCI used on servers for Gigabit Ethernet, SCSI, and SATA controller cards, among other things. It isn't used with video cards, and won't be used much at all once PCI-E starts seeing widespread use on all server platforms.

NF4 SLI is nice, but kind o firrelevant in this situation. If you can dish out another $500 or so for an SLI board and socket 939 processor (and probaly a new PSU), go for it. But I'm given the impression that this is just a video card upgrade.

As for bottlenecking, I wouldn't worry about. In most games, it you'll see advantage from a 6800 over anything weaker. You might not see much difference in more CPU-limited games, such as Unreal Tournament 2004, but games that use more GPU power, such as Half-Life 2 and Doom 3, will see advantage from more expensive cards. Plus, it's more useful when you next upgrade the system since you won't really need a new video card (though I'd imagine you'd go with PCI-E for your next full system upgrade).

fr86
12-23-2004, 06:11 AM
although not a card of your choice, you can pick up an ASUS 6800gt for 399 CDN. Again, gotta know where too look, and most of the time that will be a small-ish local computer shop.

sr4470
12-23-2004, 06:15 AM
The Asus 6800GT comes with 128MB DDR1 memory clocked at 700mhz

fr86
12-23-2004, 07:27 AM
The Asus 6800GT comes with 128MB DDR1 memory clocked at 700mhz
Im aware its lower then others. But it still beats the normal 6800s. Slap some ramsinks on it and your good to go. :D heh

Yawgm0th
12-23-2004, 08:42 AM
The Asus 6800 and 6800GT both feature specs vastly different from all the other brands, on top of different prices. Personally, I wouldn't really consider one.

fr86
12-24-2004, 12:43 AM
They may be different but they arent that different; the core is the same isnt it?

Besides, adding ramsinks on the ram chip will make the air coming from the fan go through the ram sinks, which will allow some hefty OCing.

The card is still able to achieve 10k in 3dmark03~

Yawgm0th
12-24-2004, 02:01 AM
ASUS does make a couple regular cards, but here's the thing with the oddly-speced ones:

ASUS 6800GT V9999GT/TD/128 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-121-177&depa=0)
ASUS 6800 V9999 Gamer Edition/TD/256M (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-121-172&depa=0)
A normal 6800 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-140-045&depa=0)
A normal 6800GT (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-170-057&depa=0).

What they call a 6800GT is basically a 6800 with the pipelines of a GT, only for $50 more than a regular 6800 (not worth it IMO). Their 6800 is a GT with the pipelines of a normal 6800, but costs more than a GT (certainly not worth it).

RAM sinks are irrelevant since those can go on any card... Besides, a replacement cooler will actually do a lot more than RAM sinks, in most cases. RAM sinks don't do much, usually.

Amd_Lover2004
12-24-2004, 04:36 AM
Noticed that the ASUS ones were a bit more expencive than the other one that are have more pipes.

shad1097
12-24-2004, 11:34 PM
Would the GEforce 6600 or 6800 be alot better than say a ATI 700 or 9800 pro?
I have a 2.53g p4 w/512 dual ddr and a G4 Ti4600 currently which works for HL2 but seems a little slow.

fr86
12-25-2004, 03:37 AM
6800 is easily alot better then both the ATI cards. 6600 non gt is weaker if i remeber correctly. A 6600gt also beats the ATI 700/pro and the 9800 pro. The 700 is PCI-e only too, keep that in mind.

Yawgm0th
12-26-2004, 07:32 AM
I think he meant 9700 or 9800 Pro, but the X700 is only PCI-E (and I wouldn't get one anyway).

A regular 6600GT is significantly weaker than a Radeon 9700/9800 non-Pro/Pro/XT, but the 6600GT will outperform any of them for a little bit more money than a 9800 Pro. A 6800 LE/regular/GT/Ultra will also outperform them (though not by too much with the LE).

fr86
12-27-2004, 12:09 AM
But also with the nice fan and heatsink on almost all 6600gt cards, it will overclock alot better then a 9800 pro with the stock cooler. I bought the 9800 pro for now because the stupid company I bought my 6600gt from is having "troubles shipping to Canada". I like the 9800 pro, I'll see how it compares to my GT when it finally arrives.

Yawgm0th
12-27-2004, 01:07 PM
I'd actually replace the cooler on either with the correct Arctic Cooling "Silencer" and Arctic Silver 5 for better overclocking performance. It did wonders on my 9800 Pro with the older revision that uses just an aluminum heat sink (rather than copper), and the newer ones should do great on 9800 Pros and 6600GT.

Still, I don't think the 9800 Pro is a bad OCer with the stock fan at all. Most can get close to 9800XT speeds, and some can even pass them. Not sure about the 6600GT, though...

fr86
12-28-2004, 01:09 AM
Many reviews I saw of the PCIe version of the 6600GT had big gains in clock speeds with OC, the heatsink and fan are probably similar expect being curved now.

I would OC the 9800 pro but im returning it once I get my 6600gt and dont want to risk any damage to the card.

jd53887
12-28-2004, 02:24 AM
Hey, just wondering that, all 6800 are the same right? Besides the LE version which means it sucks worst, all the 6800 that I buy can maybe flash to a GT or Ultra right? Is it better to buy the OC version?

sr4470
12-28-2004, 03:50 AM
Enabling pipes to get a normal 6800 up to GT spec is a hit-n-miss business, but i hear they oc well (it helps that they drain less power than a GT or Ultra)