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MagCynic
05-02-2002, 10:29 PM
I'm either going with a 30GB Maxtor for $70 US or a 40GB IBM for $71 US. Both are running at 7200 rpm. I heard that lately IBM drives haven't been that great. Is there any truth to this? Oh, I also have a Maxtor drive now if that matters at all.

Mr.Tweak
05-02-2002, 10:38 PM
I couldn't recommend you getting IBM,

http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=article&dId=180

T-Shirt
05-03-2002, 01:19 AM
I'm either going with a 30GB Maxtor for US or a 40GB IBM for US. Both are running at 7200 rpm. I heard that lately IBM drives haven't been that great. Is there any truth to this? Oh, I also have a Maxtor drive now if that matters at all.

Oh yeah, IBM drives are great, If you need a doorstop, boat anchor, or paperwieght:hammer:
Go with the Maxtor, a much better drive:thumb:

MagCynic
05-03-2002, 05:54 AM
That's what I was leaning to anyways. Plus then I'll have matching Maxtor drives.

sKuLLsHoT
05-03-2002, 08:34 AM
in my experience there is no difference in the brand of the Drive as to the reliability, only performance that changes... having not known alot about maxtor, I can say IBM are a preformer, andif you follow the tweakers guidelines in regard to HDD's you'll be fine with a IBM (lets face it, nothing lasts forever)

If you want reliability, I'd recommend a Quantum/Maxtor 20Gb Drive, as the 20Gb's tend to be single platter, fast, quiet lower power drives, and rarely die.

there you have it :)

Beefy
05-03-2002, 09:03 AM
I've never had an IBM drive myself, but the two Maxtor drives i've got (30GB and 60GB) work like a charm. No complaints from me.

MagCynic
05-03-2002, 09:03 AM
I actually was eying a 20GB Maxtor drive, but the one I'm looking at off Newegg spins at 5400rpm. Is there really that big of a difference between 7200 and 5400? I'm not that picky either.

Mr.Tweak
05-03-2002, 09:14 AM
I actually was eying a 20GB Maxtor drive, but the one I'm looking at off Newegg spins at 5400rpm. Is there really that big of a difference between 7200 and 5400? I'm not that picky either.

Yes, put simply. :)

zeradul
05-07-2002, 09:17 AM
I don't think you want to buy a 20 GB drive with today's market. I bet you can get an 80GB (qualdruple the size) for less than double the price....

Mr. C
05-07-2002, 10:37 AM
Yes, put simply. :)
If MagCynic has ever defragged a 5400 RPM drive he will love the difference when he does it to a 7200:thumb:

Wiggo
05-07-2002, 10:54 AM
Yeah that's for sure. ;)
:beer: :beer: :beer:

Albinus
05-07-2002, 06:32 PM
Yes, put simply. :)


Or in my case 5400RPM is better..... put two of them in RAID-0 and watch the "slow" 5400RPM drives extort lunch money from the 7200RPM drives :laugh: :cackle:

zeradul
05-08-2002, 01:45 AM
heh, what kinda comment is that?

as if two 7200's in raid 0 wouldn't rape two 5400's PFFFF !! :crazy: :p :D

zeradul
05-08-2002, 01:49 AM
Hey guys, I've got two geo metro engines, and hooked 'em up together on a chasis, and they do 0 - 60 in 5 seconds, which is faster than a ferrari....

HAHAH FERRARI'S SUCK !!!

Wiggo
05-08-2002, 10:14 AM
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heh, what kinda comment is that?

as if two 7200's in raid 0 wouldn't rape two 5400's PFFFF !! :crazy: :p :D
What Albinus meant was that 2x 5400rpm HDD's in RAID 0 will perform faster than 1 7200rpm HDD. :smokin:
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zeradul
05-09-2002, 07:22 AM
Heh, I know exactly what he meant.

Just like my car analogy.

But what is the point?

More expensive (2 drives over 1)
Less flexibility (can't use the drives for any other purpose without loosing data on both)
Need a raid card/mobo (more $$)

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My point is, a newbie is asking if there is an advantage to one over the other, no need to confuse him.

Alastair
05-09-2002, 03:14 PM
I have 4 IBM 75GXP series drives at 40GBytes each. They are running on RAID machines, 24 * 7 for approximately one year. To-date they have shown no sign of data corruption or failure. They are periodically scanned for surface defects / bad blocks and I have predictive algorithms running which warn me of potential failure during normal use.

I think the reliability is due mostly to excellent cooling. Because I live in Arizona and the computers live in an ambient temperature around 85degrees, I went to town on keeping plenty of forced air cooling around the drives (4 fans). I did notice when I first bought these drives they ran too hot for comfort. Hence the cooling paranoia.

These are very quick drives but I absolutely endorse the concept that forced air cooling on both sides of the drives is a healthy idea. Fortunately some very cheap cases now build-in space for HDD cooling and I consider them a 'must'.

daedalus
05-09-2002, 06:20 PM
Yeah, i've also heard that the IBM deskstars (aka deathstars), will not die/corrupt etc. if they are provided with good cooling, it's as simple as that, but for some people, the risks, even when reduced, still aren't worth it for the extra performance...

Albinus
05-09-2002, 09:16 PM
My college has returned approximately a third of all the Deskstar drives they have purchased over the past year - very high failure rate IMHO :eek:

Even though students in hardware classes aren't known for their gentle treatment of equipment, the Western Digital drives are managing below 5% failure rate... very good in the environment they're in :thumb:

sKuLLsHoT
05-10-2002, 08:28 AM
are you comparing apples to apples albi?

i know that IBM drives are very good performers, cooling is a must, and since i recently got a hold of a new Maxtor drive, i have to say that i feel its the same story again, these drives run hotwhen i turn my coolers off...so i wont be carting them round much :) (FYI thats what killed my last IBM drive :( )

Albinus
05-11-2002, 11:34 AM
are you comparing apples to apples albi?


Sure am :)

Both models are 7200RPM, with 2MB cache, and have a single 20GB platter. Can't get more apples to apples than that :)

At least TAFE's supplier has been returning the IBM drives without a grumble... that's the main thing, and we're even starting to get 120GXP drives in return for the defective 60GXP ones :)

FLaCo
05-15-2002, 07:42 AM
what ever happen to Western Digital...you guys are anti WD...?

Beefy
05-15-2002, 08:47 AM
we aren't anti-WD at all.. it's just that this is a thread about IBM HDDs... not WD HDDs... :)

FLaCo
05-15-2002, 08:59 AM
True...Sorry:(

zeradul
05-15-2002, 09:47 AM
Right.

WD did well in the vote...

http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1667

Morgan_Lander
05-15-2002, 10:15 AM
In case you don't get the hint...avoid IBM like the plague!!!!

Never seen or had a WD go bad. Had to RMA a few Maxtors, but with their no-BS process, I'll stick with them as well.

FLaCo
05-16-2002, 06:31 AM
its prolly too late but they have a WD 30GB Hard drive for 75 bucks at shentech.com and 20 GB WD for 69 both running at 7200 RPM's. Just thought i'd share that.:?: