Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

[pterem]

I just put this thing together and would like to know how to clock and tweak it. RAM is 800 DDR2, Processor is Quad core. OS installed pretty tough and I loaded all defaults. Any help?

[Shauntx]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

I just put this thing together and would like to know how to clock and tweak it. RAM is 800 DDR2, Processor is Quad core. OS installed pretty tough and I loaded all defaults. Any help?

what are you looking to clock to and what is your vid?

[pterem]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

Looking to basically set up the mother board to be more stabil and my vid card is a nvidia 256mb 8600gts

[pterem]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

I,m kind of a newbie

[Shauntx]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

I,m kind of a newbie

no problem however what is your vid of your processor? If you google Coretemp and download it it will tell you that. That is the min voltage that your computer takes to boot.

[Shauntx]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

You can try this a LSD gave me these settings first time I started and they worked GREAT! I now have a q6600 at 3.6GHz stable but looking to push to 3.8Ghz next. But try below and let me know. Make sure you thank Lsdmeasap!

Hey, No problem. I am here to help, as are many of our other members. Ya we are not as large as alot of places, but we all do try to chime in as soon as we can to help others.

Here is some suggested settings for 3.2 for now. I will help you with 3.4 if you think you can reach it with your cooler, and after you play with your PC for a while!

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.20GHz (9 X 355 FSB = 3.195)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 355 Mhz (FSB)
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 150ps << Both may work fine with lower
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 250ps <<< See above


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [400]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.00
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1065 MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................12/15

The timings below, and the one 12/15 ranger above, are ranges. Set to highest and once you get your CPU stable you can start to bring them down. ONE AT A TIME with testing between each move or you will never get stable because you move too many and you wont know which is causing the errors

Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD...........................................3-4
tWTR..........................................(4-6) 9-11
tWR............................................3-5
tRFC...........................................(48-50) 52-62
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage ControlCPUMCH/ICHAdvanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Just so you know now and not wonder or get scared. A bouble reboot is normal when changing BIOS settings. So if you see a double boot it is fine, as is single of course. Which will only happen with minor changes. A double is the norm.

A triple reboot means the settings failed and the BIOS MIT section will be reset to default, you will need to try again. This is usually to tight of ram timings, or not enough CPU Voltage

[pterem]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

I,m going to try it.Thank you so much. I had to get off to do a few things for the wife. Going to try it tomorrow

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

You need to post your full specs, the above may or may not work for you. Please post Ram type, amount and CPU name as well so we can advise you of a voltage range. The above may be wrong if you have a older CPU, or if you are using different ram then he was.

Basically, you will need system specific settings probably. But that may be a good starting range for you if you have a New Quad (45Nm) and 2x1GB of ram at 1066 speeds. If not you will need different settings for sure, which I do see you listed ram speed of 800. So the above will not boot for you, please post what type of ram, how much and your CPU name and I will post you some settings to start with.

I will be back tomorrow for sure if You do not post back tonight

[pterem]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

Hi
I finally got your reply (Wife has me going all over) Thank you for your help I'm just learning this computer building stuff. I got your reply this A.M. and I looked at my memory and it is the corsair 800 DDR2 1024 mhz 2x1 ghz dual channel (4 ghz Total), my cpu is an intel quad core Q6600 2.40 ghz. my power supply is a thermaltake 650 watt. My video card is a nvidia 8600 gts 256 mb my cooling is the 2 standard case fans. Computer is always coming out of a shutdown after several hours having to check the bios errors I have set eveything to the optimized defaults.Help? . Also on hibernate it shuts off and restarts right away.
Yup she posessed.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

Ok, I would start here with stock settings first. Then if you want to overclock we can work on that later on.

S3 sleep will not work, you will need to set that to S1 until they release a BIOS fix. Q6600 is 2.40GHz by default not 2.14

You say 2x1GB ram? Then 4 total, which is it? Can you also please post the model # so I can know the CAS timing

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40GHz (9 X 266 FSB = 2.394)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz (FSB)
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.00
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 798 MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................4/5 << Will depend on your ram, see Sticker for CAS timing, or post me model #. Same applies below

tRCD .........................................4/5
tRP'...........................................4/5
tRAS..........................................12/15

The timings below, and the one 12/15 ranger above, are ranges. Set to highest and once you get your CPU stable you can start to bring them down. ONE AT A TIME with testing between each move or you will never get stable because you move too many and you wont know which is causing the errors

Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD...........................................3-4
tWTR..........................................(4-6) 9-11
tWR............................................3-5
tRFC...........................................(48-50) 52-62 << For 4GB
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: Auto or Normal << you can leave on Auto for now with no overclocking


CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< Leave

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2V - 1.25V - 1.3V << For 4GB
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V << See you ram sticker, or post me model #
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

[pterem]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

Hi thank you for replying.
the model of my ram is the corsair xms2 ram is 2x1 per channel. How do I upgrade the bios safley and what version do I go to?

[pterem]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

Hi thank you for responding
You are awesome I made the changes you suggested and it booted like lightening.
although I had to wing a few things its way smoother! Where do I find the sticker for the cas? and where do I find s1-s3 sleep? Now when its comes out of a shut down it tries to restart but can't. it goes into a rapid start cycle and never fires the monitor up. It finally started after I shut the power off. Any final tweeking?

Thanks

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

Hey, No Problem! That is why I am here.

Sorry It took me so long to reply to you!

2x1 GB eh, So that is it? Just two 1GB sitcks? If so, the below settings would be for 2x1GB

To update the BIOS Safely, start by NOT USING @BIOS!

If you do want to, which you dont have to at all, see my pinned guide here >>>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

I only mentioned BIOS because I was talking about the S3 Sleep, Which there has not been a updated BIOS fix released yet. But, here is your BIOS page just incase you do want to update it, which I say if it isnt broke dont fix it!
GIGABYTE - Support - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EP45-DS3R (rev. 1.0)

The Sticker you need to look at for CAS timings is on the RAM. It is the timings that look like this >>>
4-4-412 or 5-5-5-15 Something along those lines. Since you do have 2x1 and not 2x2 as I originally thought, I will update the settings I gave for you to use. Please still look at your ram sticker, as I will enter 4-4-4-12 below and it may not be correct for your ram.

You can also look in CPU-z, link below, in the SPD Tab for the 400Mhz Section as shown in image >>>



See in my image, there is 2 400MHz entries, yours may have 2 as well. You will want to use the EPP ones if yours has them. Post a pic of yours if you are not sure, like I said it will be either 4-4-4-12 or 5-5-5-12/15/18

CPUID

As for your boot cycles, let me explain. A double reboot is normal when making BIOS changes. A triple or more is not, and will reset the BIOS to default settings because something was not set correct (Wrong timings, or not enough voltage to something)


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40GHz (9 X 266 FSB = 2.394)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz (FSB)
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333] <<< If you keep getting triple boot, put this on AUTO

System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.00
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 798 MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................4 << Will depend on your ram, see Sticker for CAS timing, or post me model #. Same applies below

tRCD .........................................4
tRP'...........................................4
tRAS..........................................12/15

The timings below, and the one 12/15 ranger above, are ranges. Set to highest and once you get your CPU stable you can start to bring them down. ONE AT A TIME with testing between each move or you will never get stable because you move too many and you wont know which is causing the errors

Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD...........................................3-4
tWTR..........................................(4-6) 9-11
tWR............................................3-5 (May need 8-14)
tRFC...........................................38 (42) << For 2GB
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: Auto or Normal << you can leave on Auto for now with no overclocking


CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< Leave

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2V << For stability with 2GB
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V << See you ram sticker, or post me model #. Also shown in CPU-z SPD Tab as you see above. Set to EPP voltage

DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

[harry23lim]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

@shauntx

your settings will not work.

your voltage will cause error.. not all quadcores are thesame, dont forget the Vdroop of this board. if you set your voltage to 1.4750 you detected voltage will be @ 1.3760 idle 1.36xx~1.34xx on load. please set the cpu PLL to default. because the PLL votage overclock to much when set to auto.

dont forget to Run OCCT mix for 2 hours. if occt is stable within 2 hours your settings is good for 24/7 OCCT is more faster to detect errors than orthos.

@ TS

please read more information before overclocking.

[pterem]

Re: Gigabyte ep45-DS3R

Hi thanks for replying all
I keep getting it wrong 4-1 gb sticks. Ok hopfully this is it the stick reads:5-5-5-18 Also what is occt mix?

Thanks again for putting up with my lack of education.