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01-15-2009, 11:26 AM
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race301
01-16-2009, 08:41 AM
Did I get this right? to install Windows 7 beta Vista has to be installed first? I work with some guys that installed on new harddrive without Vista? Dave.

Darthtanion
01-16-2009, 10:15 AM
The guide is nothing more than an easy way to get a multiboot system up and going in a reasonably simple manner. Vista does not have to be installed to use the Windows 7 Beta... this guide just uses that as a starting point. Once you burn the ISO to disk it will load normally on a blank drive.

Mr.Tweak
01-16-2009, 01:29 PM
The guide is nothing more than an easy way to get a multiboot system up and going in a reasonably simple manner. Vista does not have to be installed to use the Windows 7 Beta... this guide just uses that as a starting point. Once you burn the ISO to disk it will load normally on a blank drive.

Actually, Vista SP1 DOES have to be installed first to upgrade to Windows 7 beta.

race301
01-16-2009, 06:04 PM
Windows 7: How to Dual Boot Windows 7 with XP or Vista (http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista)

race301
01-16-2009, 06:12 PM
How to install the Windows 7 Beta (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-installation-instructions.aspx)

Microsoft says nothing about you need Vista to install

Darthtanion
01-16-2009, 08:09 PM
Sorry to disagree, but the ISO I downloaded the other day was put onto a clean drive. This was the 64-bit version. If yours requires Vista, you might want to get another download. Mine is listed as Build 7000 on the desktop backgroud after installation.

Mr.Tweak
01-16-2009, 08:24 PM
I messed up somewhere along the line :|

Brewskie
01-16-2009, 10:00 PM
This was a pretty good guide on multi-booting!

But what do you do in August after Windows7 goes out of public beta?

Do you just install Vista over Windows 7 and delete the extra partitions?

Some explanation would be appreciated on this :sun_smile

BTW....I installed Windows 7 on a "clean" drive without problem.

Saltd0g
01-17-2009, 05:21 AM
Hey cameron, thanks for the guide, can i multi boot the 3 operating systems onto 3 seperate hard disks...one is 160gig and the 2 others are 120gig rather then partitioning???

powergiga
01-17-2009, 07:55 AM
why not use spare hdd separate to install window 7 alone and won't mess it up with vista or xp bootloader like that.

ArferDaley
01-19-2009, 07:33 AM
i have installed win7 vista and xp on seperate harddrives but bcdedit wont reconise the commands in the guide has anyone done this yet if so can u help i can boot into vista and win 7 now just cant sort the last bit to get xp into the boot as well
drives are as listed below hope someone can help as would rather be on seperate drives if possible thanks

vista = c:\
Win 7= D:\
XP = E:\

ArferDaley
01-19-2009, 09:16 AM
after messing around for a couple of hours i installed easy boot loader which done the trick but i would rather have been able to edit the windows boot manager well it will do for now anyone else want to do the same download EasyBCD 1.6 its free dont forget to change the drive letter first then select what operating system
hope it works for you

OldGeek
03-26-2009, 04:53 AM
Kind of an oddball question. I'd like to put 2 XP and 1 vista/windows 7 on the same drive... so far doesn't seem to be a problem... unless I've missed something... highly likely. Now the crux of the matter. This drive to install the operating systems on is actually a RAID1 "drive". First why 2 XP's? One a stripped down XP for Flight Simulator 2004 (FSCOF FS9 etc), the next XP is a full fledged XP with all the bells and whistles for day to day use and the more likely Windows 7 may be my future and would like it to run in 64-bit mode (does that play in to the considerations here?). My rig is built to handle all mentioned operating systems, but will having them all on a RAID1 work? Also since this will all be NTFS, will they all be able to share my data drive(s) also raid 10 (0+1) and 5? I would assume, and we know how dangerous that is, thus this post, that each will have their own set of drivers to access the RAID configurations. Thanks in advance for any thoughts, ideas or bad news.

OldGeek
03-26-2009, 07:24 PM
The answer is yes :clap: I just finished putting it all together and it works as envisioned. Now to get my hands on Windows 7. Wonder out loud if you can upgrade from XP direct to 7?

Darthtanion
03-26-2009, 08:04 PM
Glad you discovered the answer. While many find numerous faults with the MS operating system line (I could likely be counted in that group), they do tend to play well with other versions and other OS's for that matter. As long as you are using a reliable boot manager (the one in XP or Vista or Win7 work well, as does GRUB) you should have no issues as long as you are using either seperate drives or a partitioned one.

As for upgrading, I would imagine that MS will have an update method similar to what is already in place with Vista. We will have to wait and see if we will have the ability conduct a claen install from our upgrade disk like when XP first came out, or whether work-arounds will have to be discovered like when Vista hit the streets.

I am also curious as to whether MS will allow an upgrade from XP to Win7 since many stayed far away from Vista.

NimrodAUS
04-01-2009, 07:12 PM
Obviously if you want to "Upgrade" then Vista needs to be installed, but I also downloaded the Beta from Microsoft when It first came out both the 32bit and 64bit Build 7000 and It runs nicely and installs on a clean drive from the ISO burnt to a DVD. P.S I love Windows 7 And I might actually pay for a legal copy of this windows.

lazyboy1984
04-02-2009, 02:10 PM
I am also curious as to whether MS will allow an upgrade from XP to Win7 since many stayed far away from Vista.

I tried to do this recently and it was not allowed. IIRC it said something along the lines of your operating system is not supported for upgrade. Upgrade option is only available for Windows Vista.

So far I quite like Windows 7 but it doesn't seem all that different from Vista. I noticed no speed increase but this is partly due to lack of 3rd party drivers and being forced to use the generic drivers which came with the beta Win7.

In all honesty, Vista and 7 are nice to do work on since the GUI is newer and nicer but for games and and outright compatibility, I'm holding onto XP until the retail versions of Windows 7 can convince me otherwise and when these promises of performance increases can actually be confirmed in games.

NimrodAUS
04-02-2009, 04:17 PM
Hey Michael, what is your system? Im running my Sigature system on Windows 7 and it is soo much quicker and less crashy then vista. I think id even go to say that it is even more responsive than XP. Which is quite incredible as its Much more "Pretty". As far as drivers are concerned, I have just been using Vista Drivers on W7 and it seems to go pretty good. Whats funny is I have less Problems running Vista 182.8 NVIDIA Drivers than with the W7 Beta Drivers.

Just for example. My Bindows Experence level is 5.9 in W7 and only 5.8 in Vista??? Who Knows. But as previously mentioned I will actually Hand over some cash for this New OS from Microsoft when it is released.

OldGeek
04-10-2009, 11:17 AM
This is what I expected with Windows 7, i.e. you would have to go through Vista first. For those of us still on XP, believe MS should offer a special "pain and suffering" price for Vista :bawling: , just to have it so we can upgrade to W7. My current position is... ahem... screw them... for now at least. Just ordered XP 64bit. A drop in the bucket price... got a good deal and it is NOT the academic version... compared to what I've seen for a full install W7 (not upgrade), which is what I'd want with such a massive operating system architecture change/upgrade.

NimrodAUS
04-10-2009, 12:15 PM
I cant say Ive used windows XP 64BIT but I can vouch for Vista 64Bit, its a lot better than 32bit. But Windows 7 64bit rocks. Its like xp on steroids. Upgrading OS's has always been crap. Just buy the Full version and start fresh.

dabooosh
05-18-2009, 11:47 AM
Great guide! I just have one problem.

Windows7 installed on first hard drive. Only 1 partition on that drive.
WindowsXP installed on second hard drive. Only 1 partition on that drive.

I can boot into 7 fine.

When I try to boot into XP, I get a missing hal.dll error. I know the file is there so I'm sure it's a boot.ini error. Thing is, my boot.ini seems fine.


[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetectAny ideas?

MacKey
07-27-2009, 08:48 PM
i have installed win7 vista and xp on seperate harddrives but bcdedit wont reconise the commands in the guide has anyone done this yet if so can u help i can boot into vista and win 7 now just cant sort the last bit to get xp into the boot as well
drives are as listed below hope someone can help as would rather be on seperate drives if possible thanks

vista = c:\
Win 7= D:\
XP = E:\

I think I have the same problem or I do this totally wrong. In the picture you can see how the prompt reacts when I enter the data.

my drives are:
Win 7 = C:\
XP = F:\ http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/7/475904/cmd%20screen.jpg

All help is much appreciated!
Peace!

chumbawumba69
11-23-2009, 05:36 AM
Just came on to post as this topic frustrated me this weekend on a Windows 7 install followed by a WinXp install.
Firstly yes the syntax is wrong -XXX should be /XXX etc...
Secondly the "ntldr" must be created hence first try this:
bcdedit /create {ntldr} /d "WinXP"
Thereafter you can follow the steps in the guide.. (note the drive in the /set command is that of your XP install).
Rgds
Andy
finally time for a :beerchug:

vspyr
01-20-2011, 02:49 PM
What about if I want to install Windows 2000 too? (2000,XP,Vista AND 7).

Thanks

cloud69
01-24-2011, 02:03 PM
Hey cameron, thanks for the guide, can i multi boot the 3 operating systems onto 3 seperate hard disks...one is 160gig and the 2 others are 120gig rather then partitioning???

actually you can start with xp then vista ang last windows 7. that way your boot manager will be windows 7.