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Blasko
07-06-2002, 12:05 PM
Ok, I know that there are big-ass debates going on, so I just want to hear the pros and cons of Intel or AMD processors. I'm a newbie to all of this, and I'm looking to build a computer to overclock, because I'm VERY short on cash. All I want is a music/gaming rig, so I need a processor that can handle it good. My case is going to have 7 fans, so cooling shouldn't be an issue. What processor would be suitable for me?

Nick
07-06-2002, 12:25 PM
If your very short on cash, you have already ruled Intel processors out ;)

Athlon XP is much cheaper, and is faster than the P4 until you get to the fastest P4 models (like 2.4/2/53Ghz).
Athlox XP will do what you want just fine, and will be a lot cheaper :D

Morgan_Lander
07-06-2002, 12:53 PM
If you want a phat overclock, get the Pentium 4 1.6A (they are being discontinued though) or 1.8A. They overclock very well. I've got my 1.6A running at nearly 2.2Ghz, and many people have been able to hit 2.4GHz with little or no voltage increase. Also, I purchased a retail boxed 1.6A for $140+ shipping from Newegg (only good if ya live in the US, tho--no international shipments).

If you're not gonna overclock much if at all, the Athlon would be a better choice.

Pro's of the P4: does not require extreme methods of cooling--stock cooler is plenty, the northwoods (512kB L2 cache, denoted by "A" for 400MHz FSB ones) are very good overclockers, much less likely to fry than an Athlon.

Pro's of Athlon: more work per cycle, stomping out P4 at equivalent and similar speeds. The highest end Athlons are around 1/2 the cost of the highest clocked P4 (2.53GHz). While they do have their multiplier locked, it can be overridden (depending on how much balls you have to fill L1 bridges) w/o too much hassle--this cannot be done with the P4.

zeradul
07-06-2002, 01:49 PM
Consult the book of Jeff K. !!

http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/amdvintell.htm

Wiggo
07-06-2002, 01:56 PM
Oh no! :eek:
Not that comedy site again. :(
:beer: :beer: :beer:

chisholm
07-06-2002, 05:50 PM
ahahah good ****:D

elysium
07-16-2002, 01:12 PM
hehe i would go with a amd.. im more of a amd guy.. but the p4 2.2ghz is good for ocing

Morgan_Lander
07-16-2002, 01:32 PM
I'm neutral. I like computers, and would like a Mac some time (I want a Mac Cube and/or a dual G4 Mac, dammit!)

zeradul
07-16-2002, 02:24 PM
What would you rather do on a dual G4? The only thing I can think of is video editing.

m-kong
07-16-2002, 03:04 PM
There is no debate, seriously d00d. In my opinion you should purchase an amd processor. They are very reliabel as i have one. I have not had any problems with the voltage defaults or core temps. It is a personal opinion to purchase an amd cpu.
Yet also, amd motherboards are cheaper in comparison to boards that are sued for an Intel CPU.
So do what i did , be smart,. don't be a retard and buy AMD.
:D

chisholm
07-16-2002, 03:17 PM
buying an AMD gives you better performance for your dollars...and yes while some P4's o/c very well, there are plenty that don;t..also buying AMD gives u better upgrade options...who knows when intel are going to change their socket again

drpeterbright
08-05-2002, 09:06 AM
:shoot: For the price, it's hard to beat amd. However, if you are serious about overclocking, some of the P4's can really cook (without being cooked).

:flames:

HackofDestruct
08-05-2002, 02:27 PM
hpw much cash so we can tell you a XP or T-Bird

chisholm
08-09-2002, 08:08 PM
errr u can;t t-birds anymore....not that u would wanto:confused:

drpeterbright
08-10-2002, 07:03 AM
:cool: What about dualies? :crazy:

The__tweaker
08-10-2002, 11:52 AM
Compare the price of a boxed Thoroughbred XP 2200+ and the boxed 2,26 ghz p4... :)
Here in sweden the Intel is only about
20$ more expensive, and the sucker will give you
the choise to o/c to.
Put the Intel on a ddr based board and you'll get a quite cheap but still very high performance
setup that does'nt cost so mutch more than a amd system... :)

/Well, that's my opinion, disagree? Yell at me... :argue:

Wiggo
08-10-2002, 01:37 PM
And at the moment quite valid as the difference here is about $50aus difference between them though sadly that Athlon is $200aus too much for me. :(
And the 533MHz FSB Intel has room to move. AMD has been putting all it weight behind the "Hammer" family rollout and sorta forgot the K7's. :cry:
<center>:cheers:</center>

chisholm
08-11-2002, 06:16 PM
yea although hopefully they wonlt forget to make 166fsb t-breds:D

Wiggo
08-11-2002, 07:17 PM
166MHz FSB "Bartons" would be even better. ;)
:beer: :beer: :beer:

drpeterbright
08-15-2002, 02:44 AM
:cool: Any delivery date on those? :cool:

Wiggo
08-15-2002, 08:46 AM
Sometime this year. :devil:
:beer: :beer: :beer:

drpeterbright
08-16-2002, 01:22 AM
:cheers: Tks.

dragon
08-16-2002, 09:12 AM
AMD is cheaper, faster, and handles mutlitasking better than Intel's Chips. If you're going with AMD, be sure to buy a motherboard that has an option to turn off fans if CPU fails. AMD burns up within a matter of seconds.

drpeterbright
08-16-2002, 09:36 AM
dragon Did you mean to say turn off cpu if fans fail?