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    i know it early but whats next after XP?

    how long till we get a 64bit color driving OS that eats up about about 256 mb of ram on its own?


    well im all confused now that the nforce2 motherboard is looming - i was all intel baby - lets face it my 1.8 is clearly - faster agaist ? what the fastest amd on the market the xp2200 - which is gulp...1.8 - intel goes up to 2.53 baby with 3.0 by the end of the year

    NOW I WONT BUY A 3.0 - THATS FOOLS MONEY - BUT I WAS LEANING TO A 2.26 W/512 CASHE TO GET AHOLD OF THE 533 FSB ACTION - AND REALLY 2.26 BY THE END OF 2002 IS REALLY MIGHTY

    now theres the confusing part - it is my destiny to build a killer - possibly portable shuttle system - with a nforce2 - with a amd 1700 athlon xp right now till the k8's drop - with ddr400 support agp4x a 333fsb(how come they claim to be the first yet intels are 'higher'? sorry im dumb)usb 2.o 5.1 surround and a gforce4mx built in - seriously thats incredible stuff with a K8 and a around oh a GB of pc3200 ram

    can anyone help me decide - or talk me in or out of the shuttle pc idea- im not into wasting money! besides my video card cost more than a damn xbox or ps2 so i want my games and apps to bleed of that fat 19' black cabinet flat display monitor

    1600x1200x32 till we 1600x1200x64
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    P4 1.8 w/256 L2 cache
    D845bg w/512 mb DDR pc2100
    Gforce4 Ti4400
    Western Digital 100 Gb Hard Drive W/2mb Cache
    Creative Audigy EAX / DD 5.1 - Inspire 5300 Surround Speakers
    Twin View Enabled:
    NEC 19' Flat display monitor + 15' Flat display monitor + tv out
    windows xp professional




    :cheers:

  • #2
    Basically full on .NET is next in various forms but very few are lookin' forward to this. :(

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    • #3
      Or .NOT as us dial-up types like to call it :D
      The reason a diamond shines so brightly is because it has many facets which reflect light.

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      • #4
        .NOT just not by dailup users either. :(
        Thankfully this is runnin' behind schedule anyway. :D

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        • #5
          if i remember right doesn't a 64bit os mean that its just the commands sent to your cpu are 64bit and your cpu has to be 64bit? ...

          when you think of speed, your 1.8 would get whooped by the xp 2200+ (both versions)...a fully tweaked xp 2200+ whoops *ss.. you also have to consider how much p4s cost..amazingly crazy prices. if you want 133 quad fsb, then get a 1.6A ghz northwood and o/c to 2.2ghz easy

          on the part of 333fsb, its 166 x 2, see, intel p4s are 100 x 4 or 133 x 4, as you can see, they didn't increase the fsb by much, still 100 or 133 but all they did was quad pump it..somewhat like a "cpu multipler". in the amd case the 166 is the fsb, the fsb increased..not the multiplier, im pretty sure you know that the increase of fsb deals a lot greater performance increase than an increase in multiplier..

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          • #6
            If you're goin' to be using a 64bit os then you will need a CPU that can handle 64bit instructions of course but the latest findings are that it will be years yet before 64bit processing gets out of the server market and work its way thru business till it gets to the home market which is why Intel are working so frantically trying to get "Yamhill" ready to tackle AMD's "Hammer" family as they have realised that their Itanium isn't being accepted in the leaps and bounds that they had wished.
            No 32bit processing is goin' to be with us for quite some time yet. ;)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by aznx
              if i remember right doesn't a 64bit os mean that its just the commands sent to your cpu are 64bit and your cpu has to be 64bit? ...

              when you think of speed, your 1.8 would get whooped by the xp 2200+ (both versions)...a fully tweaked xp 2200+ whoops *ss.. you also have to consider how much p4s cost..amazingly crazy prices. if you want 133 quad fsb, then get a 1.6A ghz northwood and o/c to 2.2ghz easy

              on the part of 333fsb, its 166 x 2, see, intel p4s are 100 x 4 or 133 x 4, as you can see, they didn't increase the fsb by much, still 100 or 133 but all they did was quad pump it..somewhat like a "cpu multipler". in the amd case the 166 is the fsb, the fsb increased..not the multiplier, im pretty sure you know that the increase of fsb deals a lot greater performance increase than an increase in multiplier..
              THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION IM CONFUSED NOW - I GUESS - BY WHERE THE BEST CHOICE IS? 4X133 0R 2X166?

              MATT MARTIN

              1600x1200x32 till we 1600x1200x64
              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              P4 1.8 w/256 L2 cache
              D845bg w/512 mb DDR pc2100
              Gforce4 Ti4400
              Western Digital 100 Gb Hard Drive W/2mb Cache
              Creative Audigy EAX / DD 5.1 - Inspire 5300 Surround Speakers
              Twin View Enabled:
              NEC 19' Flat display monitor + 15' Flat display monitor + tv out
              windows xp professional

              :cheers:

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              • #8
                Really we're at a confusing point of the year with so much just on the horizon like maybe this, http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthre...&threadid=3801 , but a lot of things should become clearer by Xmas. ;)

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                • #9
                  166 ofcourse

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                  • #10
                    geez - i still use a good amount of 16bit stuff:confused:
                    The reason a diamond shines so brightly is because it has many facets which reflect light.

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                    • #11
                      Uh oh! This will be a big mistake for Microsoft. The reason being is that this will just give Linux more than enough time to come up with a Windows killer! But that would make my day anyway!

                      I'd bet that my system requirements right now would definitely not be supported, but first I better update my sig! :D Here's my predicted system requireents for Longhorn:

                      Intel Pentium 4 1.6 GHz or AMD Athlon XP 1600+
                      384 MB RAM (512 MB Recommended)
                      About 8 GB of disk space, considering the amount all the unnecessary crap Microsoft is going to implement in Longhorn.
                      64 MB 3D Accelerator
                      Cable/ADSL/T1/T3 connection

                      There will probably be other things to add to this proposed list I have in mind, but what I can see, Microsoft will have gone too far that Linux and Apple can simply take over. Real progress has been made over the years concerning Linux, but it will eventually take over Windows, LOL! :cheers::LOL:

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                      • #12
                        It's time for MS to pull the old switcheroo on everyone and come out with an os that would really be two in one (shades of DOS & Windows 3.11) with real choices of a stripped down for specific applications os coupled with the I can do everything os. Bill G has never listened to me in the past however.

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                        • #13
                          We'd be in a world of hurt without MS. And thats one hell of an understatement.

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                          • #14
                            It would be nicer though if the hurt didn't rebound as much into our wallets. ;)

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                            • #15
                              That sounds nice, but then MS wouldn't be able to hire the best and the brightest in the world, and then Windows wouldn't be as good. And then you'd REALLY complain.

                              This has been tried thousands of times in a system called Communism, and it has failed miserably EVERY time. In fact, MS software prices would be far under HALF what they are now, if the Socialist Democrats in our government didn't insist on taxing MS SO heavily. When you pay 300$ for XP Pro, 180$ of it goes straight to the US Government as income tax. Sadly, we have some powerful Socalists driving up taxes and the prices of goods, with them. So Wiggo, you have noone to blame more than those who have chosen to heavily tax the wealthy, who are in this case, Socialists.

                              But, Socialists or not, therein lies the absolute beauty of Capitalism. Anyone of us here can write our own OS, and then sell it for WHATEVER price we choose. With all the potential money to be made selling OS's surely the most brilliant of people are trying to write and market a better OS, but as it stands, noone can EVEN COME CLOSE to competing with MS. And until they do, MS will be in charge, making our lives easier by the minute.

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