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webe3
08-03-2002, 08:48 PM
I have a question about OEM products. (Original Equipment Manufacturer) I was wondering if the lawyers that wrote the OEM UELA did it that way on purpose, because you can buy(for example) a $90.00 (OEM) CD of a FULL VERSION of microsoft windows xp professional(NO other OS needed!) on www.newegg.com and all you really have to purchase extra is a piece of hardware to stay legal! BUT....the EULA does not require WHICH piece of hardware you have to buy, so you can just purchase a cheap cable for a couple of dollars extra, and get the full version software which USUSLLY costs $299.00 retail! I know that OEMs only carry a limited warranty and no tech support and no manual (usually an online txt. that is downloadable), but the money you save (to me anyways) is worth it! And by the way, I get MUCH better tech support off of boards like this one! THIS board is where I begin, if I have trouble with my hardware and tweakxp.com is where I go if the OS is giving me trouble. So I really am wondering WHY have the EULA set up so anybody with brains can get a good piece of software at a fraction of the cost?? NOT that I am complaining, just wondering why sell this CD at $90.00 and the SAME CD (Retail with box manual and warranty and tech support) at $299.00???? (MSRP) Just wondering..........

Wiggo
08-03-2002, 09:02 PM
I'm not sure about where you are but here ya have to get something like a hard drive, motherboard, CPU, expensive video card or the likes to qualify for the OEM version of Windows not something cheap though some place stipulate a system. :smokin:
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Beefy
08-03-2002, 09:55 PM
most of the OEM stuff I've seen, you basically need to buy a motherboard or some other large component, as Wiggo said..

webe3
08-04-2002, 12:36 AM
Well even if that is true, you can probably buy a cheapo sound card OR 56k modem for next to nothing and THAT would be a piece of hardware, just not an EXPENSIVE piece of hardware.....I just wonder if the LIMITS are set by the people that make the softwaare or the ones selling it to you????? By the way, I live in Illinois in the United States.

Wiggo
08-04-2002, 02:11 AM
Don't be surprised if a cheap part doesn't get it for you. : peace2:
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Darthtanion
08-04-2002, 02:42 AM
Here in the States, you just have to buy a cheap mouse or cable or something to qualify for the OEM software. Can't say why that is, but it sometimes makes it worth it. I went with a Microsoft open license agreement myself, though, so my cost was close to retail. Of course, not having to activate the damn thing every time I change out a few parts made it a deal in my books. :)

webe3,
Where in Illinois? Though I am in Texas now, I grew up in the village of Morton (about 6 miles from Peoria).

webe3
08-04-2002, 05:46 PM
Actually I am in PEORIA! You say you used to live in morton?(Morton is on the outskirts of Pekin, right?) My uncle Rodney has a bodyshop there called Sandrock Autobody! Small world, huh? Yeah, I was pretty sure that was true about buying a cheap cable or something to meet the requirements of OEM (in the United States anyway) because I read that on a website that was in the US! But I really don't know if that was an oversight by the lawyers creating such a "legal loophole" that you can get cheap OEM software and buy a cable instead of a whole system....and STILL be LEGAL. Is wiggo living in another country? Mabye the laws are different there.........

Wiggo
08-04-2002, 06:21 PM
That's right ;)


<---- Australia :thumb:


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Darthtanion
08-05-2002, 04:07 AM
Unless Morton has grown a whole bunch, it's not on the outskirts of Pekin. Of course, it was 1981 when I left there to join the Marines. It was a whole lot closer to Peoria than Pekin, but Pekin is the county seat.

As to the issue of OEM software, it is designed for the system builder. It allows them to purchase the OS at a lower cost and sell their computers for a more reasonable price. It lets the builder make some money and continues to line the pockets of the mighty Microsoft Corporation. And we all know that Microsoft really wants to own the computing world with their OS.

webe3
08-05-2002, 04:20 AM
Yeah, only moved here a couple of years ago and could not remember where morton was....asked my friends who have been here all of their life and they said the same thing. Well as far as the OEM issue is concerned, I think I am going to take advantage of this US "loophole"! It's about time I was able to get a microsoft OS FULL VERSION for a reasonable price.....HE! HE! Hey wiggo, as far as Australia goes, I always wanted to go there, I heard it is beautiful country. The main reason I want to go is to take a tour on a boat and be able to get into a cage in scuba gear and see a great white shark! Always wanted to do that! Notice I said.... in a cage.... NOT open water!

drpeterbright
08-15-2002, 09:18 AM
Wiggo Maybe Australia should annex the US and straighten things out.

Wiggo
08-15-2002, 09:54 AM
Now there's a thought. :thumb:
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webe3
08-15-2002, 12:55 PM
Wiggo Maybe Australia shoud annex the US and straighten things out.




No.......I don't think americans will go for that......

Osiris
08-15-2002, 02:53 PM
I'm sure they'd like to do it the other way round though... oh wait... they have :(.

drpeterbright
08-20-2002, 05:49 AM
The 51st state or the United States of Australia.

Osiris
08-21-2002, 02:59 PM
The 51st state or the United States of Australia.

There's about 192 countries in the world, and I'm sure America would be happy to make room for that many stars on it's flag...

drpeterbright
08-21-2002, 10:54 PM
You are probably correct. I can see the house of representatives now - 12,000 strong.

webe3
08-22-2002, 09:19 PM
OK OK Enough with america bashing! You wouldn't like people making fun of your country would you?

drpeterbright
08-23-2002, 12:36 AM
But is it politically correct for we Americans to do it?

Osiris
08-23-2002, 03:31 PM
OK OK Enough with america bashing! You wouldn't like people making fun of your country would you?

Not if it was deserved!

drpeterbright
08-23-2002, 08:38 PM
All of us need our bubble burst on occasion. Our governments cvan all make fools of themselves and us in the bargain.

bigjackusa
08-28-2002, 04:55 PM
O.E.M. software is for system builders. Generally the licence requires that it be bought with a new system. Most of the dealers I have dealt with that sell O.E.M. copies of OS's consider a motherboard purchase the equivalent of a new system.

webe3
08-28-2002, 07:14 PM
But is it politically correct for we Americans to do it?

Now where did I say that it was ok to bash any country?? you are the one with the problem......not me! If you have anything to say about a country, please say it in a respectful way not a slam!

And remember, this thread I started was about OEM not country bashing, so lets just stick to it.......shall we! [I agree...but by the sounds of it, it isn't going to get back on track]

[Edit] Removed tone and language.

webe3
08-28-2002, 07:15 PM
Not if it was deserved!

So far nobody has raised their tone or sworn like yourself, thus the result so far of just your posts being edited.

webe3
08-28-2002, 07:20 PM
[Edit]

I have seen your reply and your thoughts on the matter. The original question for the starting of this thread I think has been answered. If not, please start another thread. This one is now closed to stop further flaming and arguments. Remember, at TweakTown we are all friends :)

Osiris
08-28-2002, 08:10 PM
Well, even though your post is about to get moderated, I think you'd better actually read what I was saying there...


[b]OK OK Enough with america bashing! You wouldn't like people making fun of your country would you?

^ What you said.




[b]Not if it was deserved!

^ How I responded, and I really can't see why anyone could find a problem with that.

It's reactions like that that just annoy me.