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m-kong
09-03-2002, 09:56 PM
G'days :DD:
I was just wondering all of you audio enthusiasts, what are the best speakers out in the Australian market today.
All other country men and women, feel free to input.
When regarding a certain type of speaker, could you please list where you purchased it from, or where you can purchase it from and its price.
Thanks for any helpful input.

Ehhe Yebeb
09-03-2002, 10:48 PM
Just buy a 5.1 channel speaker set, from a good brand, such as creative, altec lansing or even abit. The Abit ones are probably the cheapest, and are pretty decent, you can pick em up at ARC computers in parramatta if thats nearby to you.

Darthtanion
09-04-2002, 01:52 AM
If you want the best, then look at Klipsch. Their ProMedia 5.1 setups are still being reviewed as the best you can get. Unfortunately, they tend to be expensive, but you get what you pay for. Retail price for these speaks is US$399.

bigjackusa
09-04-2002, 01:52 AM
IMHO, best bang for the buck = Logitech Z560 5.1. MSRP = $199us, have seen them on special a couple of times for as low as $139us online.

ReSpAwN DeMoN
09-04-2002, 06:23 AM
The Z-560's are 4.1's not 5.1's. Truthfully I think you should stick to 4.1's unless your gonna watch DVD movies on your comp. If not the 4.1's create a virtual center channel that is actually better then 5.1 speakers. Ya I heard the Z-560's are good my brother is probably getting some soon. Also the Altec Lansings 641's are also good and compete with the Z-560's for less of a price.

m-kong
09-04-2002, 05:26 PM
ARCCO is only 10 minutes away from me :D

What is the difference with 4.1 and 5.1 for watching dvd movies??
Is there a really big difference?

m-kong
09-04-2002, 05:28 PM
I will most likely be purchasing them from ARCCO
--> http://www.arcco.com.au
Relatively good priced, they also stock all the speakers that you guys have suggested.
One exception, the LOGITECH Z-560 are $373
and the ALTEC LANSING 641 are $487. You have said the altec's are cheaper, did you mean the other way around ??

ReSpAwN DeMoN
09-04-2002, 07:18 PM
5.1 speakers has 5 channels and a subwoofer 5+1. 2 in the front one in the middle and 2 in the back. 4.1 is the same thing except without the center channel. But it does create something called a virtual center channal which will actually make things sound better then a 5.1 sound system. Cause the center channel is literally silent unless your watching a DVD movie. Of course if your watching a movie then ya a 5.1 system will sound better but for everything ellse. I'm all 4.1.

As for price. I was basing it on newegg.com apparently they don't sell the 641's anymore. I had thought they were cheaper. heh maybe the 641's got the price drop first? And that is the time that I am basing my price off of?

m-kong
09-04-2002, 08:49 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me RD.
I'm currently going to place my vote on the Logitech Z-560's. Yet i want to save money so the A-bit SP53 5.1 speakers seem ok.
Can anyone who has used them themselves tell me about either speaker set.
The A-bit speakers are far cheaper a whole $228 AUD cheaper.
So any input upon either set of speakers would be great. :D

RDR
09-07-2002, 09:58 PM
I'm probably in the minority here - but anything more than a 2.1 system is a waste for me - I don't game enough to appreciate the surround effects & I watch all my DVD's on the big screen & DTS audio system in my rec room - plus I find it annoying when I keep tripping over the wires to the rear speakers.

I had a set of the Creative Inspire 5300's but unloaded them on a friend last month - they were 5.1's but I didn't find the sound quality to be anything special.

I recently picked up a set of Altec Lansing ATP3's for $78cdn & have found them to be pretty impressive, better than the ACS45.2's on my other system - which I've been more than happy with for the past 2 years.:thumb:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
09-07-2002, 11:52 PM
You got the sound card capable of it right? Cause creative makes the worst speakers compared to the other companies. Its almost literally a joke I read a review on the 5300's. Someone opened up one of the speakers and that BIG BIG SUBWOOFER is actually just a huge open box and the speaker is like 3 inches. The speaker that actually show is just there for its looks but does operate. Also the wattage that the speakers say they are capable of is not true because inside the speakers (opened up again) it has the max wattage which is half of what they say in the specs! So when you say not impressed with quality and you prefere the altec lansing 2.1's. I guess the 2.1's actually make better quality.

Ehhe Yebeb
09-08-2002, 08:26 AM
Out of those speakers i'd go with the Abit 5.1 because its a cheap 5.1 channel setup, and its great stuff, and i jsut wouldnt be able to bring myself to spend like $400 on speakers.

ReSpAwN DeMoN
09-08-2002, 02:36 PM
Now now now in situation like this ebay becomes your best friend. I got myself a pair of altec lansing ACS56 4.1's. I got them for 50 bucks! Of course I didn't but them used. I bought them brand new and from a power seller one that had there ebay store and with over 10K feedback.

As for spending 400 on a speakers? I totalyl agree. I can spend 400 on a video card I let the price drop to 300.

m-kong
09-08-2002, 04:46 PM
Hehe im seriously considering purchasing the Z-560 for $373AUD.
But for a few pc speaker reviews, good old dan has shone more light on the subject
---> http://www.dansdata.com/
Im not using them for serious gaming hehe lol, i would be pretty stupid to purchase them just for that. We (my family) already have a home theatre setup. This is just for my bedroom.
Im still considering my purchase, but at the moment you (fellow tweaktown peeps) have swung me towards the Logitech side :D

Ehhe Yebeb
09-08-2002, 05:06 PM
Yeh Logitech, Altec Lansing, and Klipsch will all be of higher quality than Abit, Abit is more towards the value side, actually its probably the cheapest 5.1 channel setup ive seen (that doesnt suck).

m-kong
09-08-2002, 09:12 PM
Aww man..
Now when i get these great speakers, if i get them. ( as i need to purchase a fridge aswell :/)
I'll want to purchase a new sound card, or maybe my current one will suffice. ?
I'd like a Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum, need the remote :D

ReSpAwN DeMoN
09-08-2002, 11:34 PM
You have a sound blaster live 5.1 right now. It'll hold. Now as for buying an audigy I dought you'll notice a difference in sound quality but you buy it if you want to. Only the true sound enthusiest can notice a difference. Even then it's only very little.

DaoWay
09-09-2002, 06:40 AM
RDR is right. Get 2.1 speakers. Logitech makes a z340 available in US for way under $50 USD and sounds great too.

Ehhe Yebeb
09-09-2002, 10:05 AM
Well rather than the sound card itself i think the main quality issue comes from the speakers. With the SB Live & SB audigy both using a high quality 5.1 set, or even high quality 2.1 set you arent going hear any difference whatsoever that is detectable by humans.

m-kong
09-09-2002, 03:28 PM
Very true, i dont think ill purchase the audigy platinum. I only wanted it for the remote :D
As for speakers, from your replies, 2.1 is just as good as 4.1 ?
I was planning to buy either the Altec Lansing 641's or the Logitech Z-560's.
But as for 2.1 sound, what would be the best in the Altec range, or any other high range audio specialists?

Ehhe Yebeb
09-09-2002, 06:31 PM
Whilst good satellites are important, the quality of the 0.1 channel is very important too. No speaker set is complete without a high quality sub. Just a change in perspective, another thing you could do is buy a high quality stereo speaker set. For example, my stereo system, is hooked up to a kenwood speaker system, 2 L R satelites, 1 center satelite, 2 triple speaker boxes about 3 feet in height, and one 8.5 inch kenwood sub. The sound is amazing. Although this setup is not cheap. I would only do this if you are going to listen to all music/play all music video/watch alot of DVD's on your computer, but it could be an option for ya.

m-kong
09-09-2002, 07:07 PM
Sounds great and expensive. But my family already has a very nice surround sound system om our large tv downstairs. This is merely for my own bedroom listening pleasure.
By the way, in your opinions which are better Altec Lansing 64's or Logitech z-560's
Please state pro's and con's.
Thankyou.

RDR
09-10-2002, 05:26 AM
Whilst good satellites are important, the quality of the 0.1 channel is very important too. No speaker set is complete without a high quality sub. Just a change in perspective, another thing you could do is buy a high quality stereo speaker set. For example, my stereo system, is hooked up to a kenwood speaker system, 2 L R satelites, 1 center satelite, 2 triple speaker boxes about 3 feet in height, and one 8.5 inch kenwood sub. The sound is amazing. Although this setup is not cheap. I would only do this if you are going to listen to all music/play all music video/watch alot of DVD's on your computer, but it could be an option for ya.

personally, I wouldn't spend more than ~$200 on computer speakers - unless you have a professional type external DAC - the analog signal coming out of a SB live or Audigy isn't clean enough to warrant it. Yes a big sub will produce more/louder bass, but it can't compete with a good quality stereo system for playing CD's and DVD's

I know some people don't have this option but I prefer to keep my home A/V system and my computer separate.

I am thinking of setting up one box as an MP3 server - but I would use an external USB connected DAC to produce the unamplified signal for my stereo.

RDR
09-10-2002, 05:35 AM
You got the sound card capable of it right? Cause creative makes the worst speakers compared to the other companies. Its almost literally a joke I read a review on the 5300's. Someone opened up one of the speakers and that BIG BIG SUBWOOFER is actually just a huge open box and the speaker is like 3 inches. The speaker that actually show is just there for its looks but does operate. Also the wattage that the speakers say they are capable of is not true because inside the speakers (opened up again) it has the max wattage which is half of what they say in the specs! So when you say not impressed with quality and you prefere the altec lansing 2.1's. I guess the 2.1's actually make better quality.

both of my boxes have SB Live! 5.1's in them - When the Creative 5300's first came out - I read a few reveiws that rated them fairly well:confused:..I will never, never buy creative speakers again.
Since I don't watch DVD's on my computer & I don't game alot - what do I need 5.1 for anyway?
Maybe it's partly because I'm spoiled from the Yamaha & JBL 5.1 sound system in my rec. room with my big screen :D

Ehhe Yebeb
09-10-2002, 08:38 AM
I know some people don't have this option but I prefer to keep my home A/V system and my computer separate.


Oh so do i, my A/V system is seperate from my computer system which is just two 5 inch satellites (Some old Altec Lansings). I was just outlining a possible different option.

m-kong
09-10-2002, 03:28 PM
heeh so do i :D
i'm lucky my family has money for home theatre :D
Btw im 16, im not some guy living of his olds. Just in case you were wondering.
I'm just trying to create a nice place away from 'the daily grind' within my bedroom :D:D

Ehhe Yebeb
09-10-2002, 09:57 PM
Yeh im only 18. My parents bought all this flashy kenwood crap from singapore real cheap including a very nice 8.5 inch sub. Anyway, on speakers, the klipsch 5.1 which are widely regarded as the best on the market, are hard to find, PCCG sells the for like $650, so it'll blow a hole in your pocket, there are also some really expensive creative ones that arent very good. All in all, i would say, Logitech 4.1 or Abit 5.1

RDR
09-10-2002, 10:51 PM
m-kong=16 - Ehhe Yebeb=18

I'm as old as you two put together....so my A/V and computer purchases come out of my own pocket - they still have to be approved by my wife though...most of the time :D

Luckily, I have a job that ensures I will always have at least one fast computer in my house