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Slamo
09-15-2002, 06:09 PM
Since this forum is dying, I thought I would add a thread.

I own a 1986 Toyota Corona Avante CSi

It has:

- 2.4 Litre 4-Cyliner Fuel Injected Engine
- 5 speed manual
- Dual Fuel (Petrol and LPG)
- Mags

It does:

170km/h (Maybe more, but thats the fastest I've driven it)
10km/litre (around town)

and most importantly, it's retro blue. :D

Thats about everything that really matters anyway, I'll post a pic when I have it ;)

Olie
09-15-2002, 06:55 PM
1982 Corolla

Yellow

1.3L carby

4spd man

LRP

ummmm yeah..... its slow..... it can loose traction...... on dirt..... briefly..... oh yeah it can reach 160....... if you get a nice tail wind and a realy steep hill :p

I have a pic.... but i aint posting it :)

SegiY
09-21-2002, 03:10 AM
'87 CXS Corolla
White
5 on the floor

ReSpAwN DeMoN
09-29-2002, 03:35 AM
The car in my Sig.

2002 Camaro SS

5.7L LS1 V8

6 Speed Manual


****

Jk I wish though

92 Ford Taurus

3.0L V6

4 speed auto

650HP lol http://tweak3d.net/tweak/taurus/

orestes
09-29-2002, 06:01 AM
i have a 1980 buick le saber.....i'm surprised it's still running after all it's been through....

Wiggo
09-29-2002, 12:13 PM
<center><img src="http://forums.tweaktown.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=72343"></center>

1995 EF Falcon wagon
4.0L straight EFi 6
4sp auto
Speedo finishes at 220km/h but the needle keeps goin'
<center>:cheers:</center>

Olie
09-29-2002, 09:38 PM
NEW CAR!!!

1998 Ford Laser Hatch
5-speed manual
EFI
pulls 140km/h
pulls 3rd gear burnouts with ease
cd+stacker

this is what it looks like.

Wiggo
09-29-2002, 11:09 PM
So how long till ya think ya'd have to go till ya have to change to CV joints Olie? :?:
<center>:cheers:</center>

Olie
09-29-2002, 11:28 PM
It was a one time show for the camera. ;)

if it was a digital i would have posted it.

Wiggo
10-01-2002, 03:53 PM
What's wrong with scanning? :?:

:beer: :beer: :beer:

Olie
10-01-2002, 09:36 PM
it was video, dunno who endeed up with the video

Bahamut Zer0
10-01-2002, 11:00 PM
'86 Mitsubishi Cordia 1.8L

Burgandry in color, sports seats, power mirrors....and other 1986 luxury features ('cept aircon)
Factory Mags
Sports Steering
Sports Exhaust

stupid 4sp auto gearbox and non-turbo engine until next year when i drop in a 4g62 1.8 turbo or a 4g63 2L turbo & manual gearbox gearbox. (money required + work/effort involved will decide on what engine)

Respray as well:
Midnight Plum

She goes well, for what I need to do in it anyway. Bit fuel inneficient around town, what with a friggen auto gearbox and a carby engine.
god i hate carbys so much....
:shoot:
great economy on the freeway tho.

aggr3ssor
10-09-2002, 06:01 AM
My god you guys drive old cars! :o

I drive a 1995 Dodge Stratus

2.5 V6 @ 170 HP

Oh yea..Im a detailer so its very shiny! :cool:

http://aggr3ssor.homestead.com/files/a1.jpg

rockandchelle
10-09-2002, 11:40 AM
2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS
5-Speed
2.4 Liters
155 Horsepower (Stock...but my car isn't stock..see below)
Straight 4 Cylinder

Mods:
Injen Race Division Intake
Magnaflow Street Division Muffler
Clear Corner Lights (Front and Back)
Blue Interior Lights
Reverse Indiglo Gauges (Green to Blue)
Pioneer Premier DEH-740MP (CD Player)
Red Larson Hose Kit

That's all for now..here are some pics...

**EDIT**
Picture of car is old, doesn't show clear corners...

http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/s/ssilence/forums/MyRide.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/s/ssilence/forums/intake.jpg
Picture courtesy of Injen

http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/s/ssilence/forums/gauges.jpg
Picture cortesy of Red Line Zone

rockandchelle
10-09-2002, 11:44 AM
By the way..I do believe that car in your sig is a Pontica Firebird, not a camaro...really there isn't much difference between the two except a few minor things like lights and nose...



The car in my Sig.

2002 Camaro SS

5.7L LS1 V8

6 Speed Manual


****

Jk I wish though

92 Ford Taurus

3.0L V6

4 speed auto

650HP lol http://tweak3d.net/tweak/taurus/

Wiggo
10-09-2002, 04:37 PM
aggr3ssor[/size]]
My god you guys drive old cars! :o

I drive a 1995 Dodge Stratus

???????? :confused:

"1995 EF Falcon wagon "
"1998 Ford Laser Hatch"

:beer: :beer: :beer:

pdv
10-09-2002, 06:54 PM
1996 Toyota Camry Station wagon

1999 Toyota Hi Lux Dual Cab

Edit : 1986 Sigma s/wagon....paddock bomb

WiKed
10-17-2002, 12:45 PM
1999 subaru impreza, unfortunatley its only the RX, couldnt afford the insurance on the W, it already costs me $1800.00 per year :( with all the mods it has

SegiY
10-17-2002, 12:51 PM
Some of us are too young and under paid to drive "New" cars :(

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-17-2002, 01:20 PM
my dad drives a 98 toyota camry. When I get me some money I'm gonna buy a 98-02 Camaro.

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-17-2002, 01:22 PM
By the way..I do believe that car in your sig is a Pontica Firebird, not a camaro...really there isn't much difference between the two except a few minor things like lights and nose...

The car in my sig USED to be a Camaro SS. The F-Body is my favorite car don't attempt to think I got them wrong. And there isn't much difference at all they are both based on the same engines chassie and everything and like you said the lights and nose. Only the back and front are different. I changed my sig like a few days ago as you can see when I posted that it was about a month ago.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/R/e/RespawnDemon/tt/SSprofile.jpg

FLaCo
10-17-2002, 01:48 PM
2000 Honda Civic Si

1.6Liter, Inline 4 Cylinder, 160 Horsepower

rockandchelle
10-17-2002, 02:40 PM
Ok, cool...didn't know you had just changed your sig, I'm kinda new around here. Although, I do think I like the Firebird a little better than the camaro, I think the nose makes it look a little nicer...



The car in my sig USED to be a Camaro SS. The F-Body is my favorite car don't attempt to think I got them wrong. And there isn't much difference at all they are both based on the same engines chassie and everything and like you said the lights and nose. Only the back and front are different. I changed my sig like a few days ago as you can see when I posted that it was about a month ago.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/R/e/RespawnDemon/tt/SSprofile.jpg

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-17-2002, 02:43 PM
2000 Honda Civic Si

1.6Liter, Inline 4 Cylinder, 160 Horsepower

next time you post it'll be after you installed $20K worth of steroids and running faster then a ferrari in the 1/4 miles I suppose right?


rockandchelle I like the Camaro more becuase the front of it is just outright gorgious! I like the back of the firebird more though. But they are both the most nicest bestest beautifulest cars on the planet. And I won't pick anything over them. EVER!

SegiY
10-17-2002, 02:59 PM
I locked my keys in the car at lunch :cackle:
it's down at the local store

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-17-2002, 03:02 PM
when you say down.........do you mean its down there now? lol I can't imagine how someone must react or say in there head when they close the doors and relize when they just did.

WiKed
10-17-2002, 03:29 PM
lucky for me i cant do that the drivers door wont lock without the key, i even removed it off the alarm system to ensure that i didnt do it, as it used to happen to me all to often :rolleyes:

FLaCo
10-18-2002, 03:35 AM
Um my car runs a 15.7 in the quarter mile...not bad for a I4....0-60 in just above 7 secs...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-18-2002, 06:09 AM
ya I think that is about the same speed as a standard camaro. I'm not sure. I know it does the 0-60 in 7. But not sure about the 1/4 mile. I know the Camaro SS/WS6 does the 1/4 mile in 13.2 and does 0-60 in 5.1 seconds.

FLaCo
10-18-2002, 08:21 AM
Yea i know RS camaros are cows and so are the V6 stangs...cows

SegiY
10-18-2002, 09:53 AM
moo

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-18-2002, 09:59 AM
oh I see where this is going. Lets all make fun of F-Bodies now.... :mad:

Wiggo
10-18-2002, 10:53 AM
1987 Kawasaki GPZ1000RX: Standing quarter 9 secs flat. :p

:beer: :beer: :beer:

SegiY
10-18-2002, 10:59 AM
That's a motorbike though, CHEAT

Wiggo
10-18-2002, 11:00 AM
Damn, I believe that ya maybe right. :laugh:

:beer: :beer: :beer:

SegiY
10-18-2002, 11:04 AM
See Cheaters never win,
They only apper to :p

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-18-2002, 11:27 AM
motorbikes run 9 seconds flat? I iddn't know they were that fast lol. how much tourque they got? The Camaro SS only runs 13.2...

But whatever I happens I bet it doesn't sound like this (http://bellsouthpwp.net/R/e/RespawnDemon/tt/camarossburnout.mp3) or this (http://bellsouthpwp.net/R/e/RespawnDemon/tt/camarossflyby.wav)

FLaCo
10-18-2002, 01:16 PM
oh I see where this is going. Lets all make fun of F-Bodies now.... :mad:

i'm not:cheers:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-18-2002, 02:17 PM
lol I hope not.

FLaCo
10-18-2002, 02:18 PM
:p ...lol

Moose
10-18-2002, 03:55 PM
motorbikes run 9 seconds flat? I iddn't know they were that fast lol. how much tourque they got? The Camaro SS only runs 13.2...

But whatever I happens I bet it doesn't sound like this (http://bellsouthpwp.net/R/e/RespawnDemon/tt/camarossburnout.mp3) or this (http://bellsouthpwp.net/R/e/RespawnDemon/tt/camarossflyby.wav)



No, but IMO you can not beat the feeling of all that power in between your legs, so much power so quickly, cars are more fun on the track, but bikes are more fun on the road :p

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-18-2002, 10:22 PM
ya that's definitly true too. But which one looks nicer? lol which one is safer?

FLaCo
10-19-2002, 02:16 AM
I got all the power i need between my legs...and it ain't horses either...;)

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-19-2002, 03:42 AM
:eek: If its not horses......................then what could it be? :confused:

lol

Moose
10-19-2002, 05:41 AM
ya that's definitly true too. But which one looks nicer? lol which one is safer?

It all depends on how you drive, cars can be just as dangerous due to people thinking they are invincible and driving like a bunch of tools then realizing they cannot control the car in emergency situations.

Bikes on the other hand don't have that problem as much; they learn how to handle the bike perfectly before roaring around: P

Nothing will protect you if you hit a tree at high speeds :)

Moose
10-19-2002, 05:42 AM
:eek: If its not horses......................then what could it be? :confused:

lol

Shetland Ponies maybe? :p

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-19-2002, 06:44 AM
It all depends on how you drive, cars can be just as dangerous due to people thinking they are invincible and driving like a bunch of tools then realizing they cannot control the car in emergency situations.

Bikes on the other hand don't have that problem as much; they learn how to handle the bike perfectly before roaring around: P

Nothing will protect you if you hit a tree at high speeds :)

This is all definitly true. But if your prepared for the impact (in certain situations ) like I'm saying you MIGHT be safe if you prepare for impact but if your car goes flying off a cliff and you slam on the breaks (like its really gonna do anything) your dead no matter what. but ever since my dad told me his little story with him in a car crashed into a bike I will never TOUCH a bike. He told me once that he pulled out into an intersection and looked for traffic and just as he pulled out this bike came zinging by. And crashed into his and flipped up onto his hood. Cars I know your not invincable but you are MUCH safer. Something that is just as simple as a fender bender that can cause a few scratches or make you replace your bumper and piss you off. Can be your death if you were on a bike.

Wiggo
10-19-2002, 12:05 PM
Yeah it wasn't fun the day the sheila pulled across in front of me. :eek:

Killed my GPZ1100 and almost killed the stupid ***** (they wrote the Commodore off to as havin' the driver's side of the car pushed in 7" (175mm) was just too much). :hammer:
<center>:cheers:</center>

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-19-2002, 12:13 PM
lol I would say my door being pushed in 7"es was way to much also! Were you on your GPZ1100? Did you get hurt?

JediAgent
10-19-2002, 12:14 PM
Nothing will protect you if you hit a tree at high speeds :)

Except rubber trees. Thats why you should add a sig to my petition for congress to use rubber trees on the highway. Im a part of the Federal Association for the use of Rubber Trees

You can visit us at www.fart.org



And i like to make fun of F-Bodies, they look dumb. GM/Chevy is not a great muscle car maker anymore. Even the Corvette has lost its prestige. But i lost to a Z28 last week, so my opinion lost some points.

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-19-2002, 12:16 PM
So what are you then just some rycer out there that likes to put $20K worth of steroids into your car? And fake power and drop your car half an inch off the ground? I can understand you not likeing the look but how do you figure not a great muscle car manufacturer? How do you figure that the corvette has lost its prestigue?

oh ya and I'm glad you got beat by the Z28 you deserved it.

Wiggo
10-19-2002, 03:45 PM
Actually I only got a corked shoulder out of that. ;)

:beer: :beer: :beer:

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-19-2002, 04:23 PM
lol that's good......atleast its not what happen with my dad where that guy became the hole in his hood lol.

JediAgent
10-21-2002, 03:47 PM
oh ya and I'm glad you got beat by the Z28 you deserved it.

Im actually glad i did to, it was a built '70 and it blew my doors off. I knew i would lose, but it was the day after my friend got done putting the 12" (wide) Mickey Thompson's in the back, and i wanted to be the first person to lose to him. C'mon, i knew my 150Hp Porsche was no match for a 400-ish Hp true muscle car (Hp is vague, dyno's next week).

And wat do you mean i deserve it? You don't even know me. I told you i don't like the way F-bodies look. The newest ones being the worst. And its not like my opinion is that of a sole dumbass, they are discontinuing them. They are plenty of nice looking GM products, the Corvette being the best looking, and i am rather fond of what you guys call a Monaro, i think that'll be a badss car when it comes over here. Im drawing a blank as to what they're gonna call it. Pontiac somthing, anyone help?

As far as the Corvette losing it's prestige, it has. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry with enough money to afford $45k is gonna buy a Vette. I see atleat two of them every time i drive 5 miles. Thats not Prestige. Corvettes used to be something you'd clean out your garage and make a parking spot for. Now people who own them don't even have the decency to wash them once a week (not everyone) The Corvette is a badass car, it always has been, and hopefully, always will be. But badass-ness doesn't not inherently mean prestige. A Corvette can take a Carrera in the 1/4mile. But which is a better car? Back in the 60's Corvettes could do the same thing, and people still knew the answer was the Porsche. Maybe its better technology, better mass-producing methods, better warranty, a lower price, or less quality. Im not sure, but the Vette, and every other GM product for that matter, isn't what it used to be.

And im not a rickety racer, im a Porsche guy. I dont think ill ever buy a japanese car for sport, thou i could be wrong. And not that im im saying your wrong, but how do you drop $20K of steroids into a car and get fake power? Im really asking you.

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-21-2002, 09:45 PM
Well it was all about when you said the F-Body is stupid and GM isn't a great muscle car manufacturer. I don't care about whether you don't like it or not. As I said in the previous post. Its not about looks here. You also said "you like to make fun of f-bodies" I didn't really take a likiness to that statement either.

I 100% agree with you with the corvette. Actually make that 210%. I don't like how the fact that the vette you see on every corner. Its really not cool. I mean it should be exactly how you said. You rarely see a porsche but you see porsche alot more then you see a ferrari. I think a vette should be just like porsche and you see it that often. Sheesh you even see the boxter rarely.

As to what I mean by japanese cars on steroids. I'm talking about upgrading almost every single part in the engine and slapping on a few turbo chargers. And putting on a body kit and dropping your car to ground scrapping levels. Don't forget about the 6 inch muffler outlet. Oh and of course the stickers. 7 different colors? Does this ring a bell when it comes to rice burners? What about NOS that's what I mean by fake power. Its totally fake its not real power. What do I mean by fake? Its just you can't just get power when you NEED it just by the push of a freakin button. Your car has to have that kind of power all the time!

Monaro? At first I thought that was a word you were using for making fun of the Camaro. I have never heard of the Monaro and I live in the US. Not that, that really makes a difference I'm just saying. I know GM is comming out with a few new cars next year. Pontiac being one of the companies comming out with the cars. They are comming out with a new car called the GTO. Actually let me correct that. They are bringing that car back from 30 of the dead.

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 04:28 AM
Yeah, the GTO. Thats gonna be a badass car. LS6, i believe in something roughly like what the lumina used to be. With the monaro styling, thats got alot of potential.

And i think you see boxters slightly less than Vettes, and they are roughly the same price, S is slightly more than a Z06, but in terms of performance, vette wins in looks and Hp (boxsters aren't what a Porsche-lover calls good-looking) thou the Boxster is made better, handles better, and is more comfortable. Believe me i have driven both a convertibla Vette, and a Boxster S.

I still dont like the newer Camaros/Firebirds, GM isn't displaying any quality of muscle car building in those cars, IMHO. Now the Z06, and the soon-to-be GTO are a different story. Even then, i see more Z06's on the road than Vipers and i still have yet to see a Viper500 on the road (i mean the new viper w/500ci, 500Hp, 500Trq, and a 500-watt stereo) which iis the Z06's DIRECT competitor.

As far a "fake" Hp, im not sure. Even old camaros and novas running 383strokers and a 671Wieland blower still use a lot of bottle to get the 5sec 1/8mile times that they do. NOS isn't fake, its just not practical or, again, not prestigious. I would use it, but only if its hidden well (fast and furious RX-7) and used sparingly - buyt it has to be tuned well. As far as turbos, they have many a good applications. Like in the Hennessey 850, twinturbo 8.0 liter V10 Viper. Or in a new 911 turbo, they say that car doesn't even have a noticeable turbo lag because the engine is tuned so well.

My car is a 2.5 liter 8v 4 banger that keeps up with new mustang GT's, but if i had a choice of turbo or super, i'd get a super. Power all over, thats just my preference if i had the $2500 to drop into engine work. But if i had $8k, and wanted a new car, i'd get the '89 turbo 944 (my car 3years later w/turbo) which comes with 220 stock hp, and spend a grand in intake exhaust, chip, and wastegate shim to attain upwards of 320hp. I'd be roasting on stock vettes for under $10k. And outhandling them.

And if id have a lot of money id have BOTH the turbo 944 and the super 944 in the same guards red in my garage, waiting for some idiot civic to pull up.

I understand your concern with 20K in steriods. But power is never fake if you cross the finish line first. Its just stupid if it blows your motor, and not prestigious sometimes. As far as body kits. A message to the world -

SIMPLE BODY KITS WITH FEWER STICKERS AND SIMPLE, CLEAN RIMS AND A NICE SHINY ONE COLOR PAINT JOB WILL GET YOU MORE THUMBS UP THAN THAT STUPID ANIME AIRBRUSHED ON YOUR HOOD, EVEN THOU YOUR SPRINGS ALLOW ANYONE TALLER THAN 3FT TO SEE YOUR HOOD WELL. NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR A BEE FARTING IN THE WIND, AND THEN SEE IT HAS FOURTEEN DIFFERENT COLORS AND STTICKERS FROM EVERY TWO BIT CUSTOM SHOP ON IT.

Ok, said my peace, and it really has nothing to do with the type of car you have, just the amount of extreme custom work done. Civics aren't that bad in the hands of a good customizing company. Well, they dont look bad, they just sound bad...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 06:39 AM
ok Firstly as far as the GTO it'll have an LS1 they said it MIGHT have an LS6. They are not sure as of that just quite yet.

Also when I'm talking about turbo's I'm talking about aftermarket parts. THe turbo's and supers that are usually found in stock cars to name a few 911T 03 Cobra. Things like that. They usually suck in stock cars pushing only about maybe 2-3PSI at the very most. But that is just another reason why I don't personally like porsche. Cause there means of technology is slapping in a beefy 6 cylinder and putting on some turbo's.

As for NOS......If your car is running 500HP then fine your running 500HP...but if your car is really only running 350HP and you need that extra hundred or so HP to beat your opponent then it is fake. Cause you only have that extra hundred HP when you need it for the few seconds that you actually have it. They also say that Nos works wonders or its the easy way out.

As for honda's. THey are not good or bad. Its not even this class. Its nothing more then an economy car with a 4banger that gets lots of MPG's out of it.

And when you use the terms roasting on a stock vette for under 10K. That is wrong. And that is just all the other things of steroids. Its all not reall power. You want the power then you buy a car that has the power. I don't mind souping a car a bit. But when your running an economy car such as a civic and you go ahead and say things like "roast a stock vette" that is just wrong.

http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/engine.html

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:07 AM
how is a 15psi turbo 2.5L 4-cylinder Porsche producing 320Hp beating a 345Hp V8 Vette by more than two car lengthes not roasting on it? When i said less than 10K i was including an 8K purchase price. A chip, exhaust, intake, and wastegate shim aren't steroids, thats just getting the engine to breath better and maintain boost longer. "steroids" is taking an engine thats made to get 125Hp and 30mpg, and making it run 10's in the quarter. A little off the hook, and definately not prestigious.

My Porsche turbo beating a vette isn't steroids, its taking a 13 year old car, giving it a $1,000 in tuneup, and matching that against an '02 epitome of chevy engineering. Who wins? The 13 year old quality engineering 944 Turbo. (edit: oops, sorry, im talking about a standard 345Hp Vette, not the 450+Hp Z06, that's the '02 epitome of chevy engineering)

Porsche motors have always been flat-6 boxer motors with or without turbos. The Carrera 4S, for example makes 320Hp out of a 3.6L 6. I dont think GM will ever try to do something like that. And saying its not reliable isnt even an argument anymore since the water-cooled 996 motor. Stuff before that, maybe. The turbo is 420Hp, out of the same motor (over 100hp/L) and the GT2 is a 420HP naturally aspirated version of the same motor. However, it is 160K, and i do understand that is a different class.

You think V8's are the answer, and in strait quarter mile, you right, the bigger the better. But its different at Buttonwillow and Leguna Seca, where the real racing begins. No one drives a stock vette to a POC meeting expecting to beat a new Carrera, doesn't happen. The 911, i admit, is a harder car to tame if your used to front engine cars that break lose in the rear, but someone used to the weight distribution of the Carrera can easily pull higher corner speeds than any detroit muscle ever built. And to truly display Porsche's ability to produce quality sports cars, they made the 944, which is the best handling car for anyone to learn how to drive on. My grandpa could drive my car for 15min, get used to the handling, and out corner any stock camaro or firebird ever made, and i need new shocks!

I guess what im really trying to say is you need to realize there is no such thing as "Fake" power, even if it only lasts a couple of seconds, because in the quarter thats all the time you need. And as far as steroids and the article, people got money, let em spend it. You can still have an opinion....

...although the strength of that opinion is somewhat determined by what you have had experience with. I've personally owned three decently fast cars. A 93 Toyota PU w/22RE motor with a few engine mods. A 89 Camaro RS w/383stroker motor (did it myself at my friends shop and sold it for 6K to a guy i meet at a cruise nite), and my current car: an '86 Porsche 944. No mods yet, im trying to pay for school, which is where the money from the camaro went. Of the three, the Porsche has changed my entire outlook on engineering quality and "real" power. This car can daily drive with superb comfort, street race fairly well, and i get thumbs up everyday because of how clean it is, and it's STOCK! This is just a list of cars i've owned, i wont bore you with cars i've driven just because people trust me.

...and your opinion is backed by what cars?

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:13 AM
92 Ford Taurus

3.0L V6

4 speed auto

650HP lol http://tweak3d.net/tweak/taurus/

Sorry, your right, i shouldn't second-guess your judgement.

(to be perfectly honest thou, the Taurus article was damn funny, you do that?)

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 08:16 AM
actaully I'm gonna admit to myself you and everyone else reading this that you basically took me in this argument. I'm gonna give up before I get myself into further trouble. ;)

However I'm talking about the 4cyl rycers out there. I'm not takin on no porsche. That is european. And European make the best cars. But mention price. If I vette were priced at what a ferrari is priced at it would be just as good if not better. A corvette ZO6 can probably out run alot of european cars out there for more then half the price! Your misunderstanding another thing. A camaro is a poor mans vette. The SS/WS6 is mroe then 10K less then a regular standard vette. Also when your talking about putting turbo's (more) into your porsche and out running it I couldn't imaging why. Jee maybe its cause your buying an expensive turbo? Or wait you said only intake and exaust and a new waste gate. WEll guess what....that's what rycers do! If that's what porsche calls technology then oh well.

Another thing to consider america doens't use brains to make there engines they use muscle. Its an american tradition. And its also the sound. scroll up in this thread a bit and listen to that sound. There is no car on earth that even comes close to that sound! Big engines make a deeper sound. But that's a little off the point here.

and as for that article no I just read that and since its my car I make pretend my car has 650HP

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:20 AM
the best was the logic that a 3.0L motor must be a racing motor since they use the same motor size in stock car racing, or whatever they said.

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 08:35 AM
ya and I especially like the line right after that....

I checked the HP rating at a site somewhere and found out that a taurus actually has 140HP but I'm gonna pretend that's a typo since the 1 key is so close to the 6.


and once again I apologize for arguing like this.......I do like european cars its japanese cars that I just don't care about but hate them when people soupe them full of steroids and fake power (no pun intended). However your little line "I like to make fun of F-bodies" that just got me started. Even though I got started I didn't have much of an argument.

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:41 AM
I shouldn't have said "make fun" that was a little too harsh.

But if you notice throughout this whole thing i never said i'd buy a japanese car and "soupe" it up with "steroids". Thats not something i think is cool. But you cant hate em. They do get going pretty fast, and in many situationos, faster than any car we've ever owned. So just keep your mind open about stuff and dont call it "fake" power. That'll get your ass kicked if you go to race nites, cruise nites, car shows, or anything else with someone bigger than you that likes NOS, turbos, and Hondas.

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:46 AM
rockandchelle I like the Camaro more becuase the front of it is just outright gorgious! I like the back of the firebird more though. But they are both the most nicest bestest beautifulest cars on the planet. And I won't pick anything over them. EVER!

OH! Now i understand why you got so mad...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 08:46 AM
oh ya......I mean I'll give them there respect for turning a regular economy road car into a 10 second car. I'll do that right now..

but as for getting my ass kicked. As of now I have the entire racing crew in bakersfield california that literally wants to kill me for fighting with them online. They were messing with me with hackers and stuff like that. Luckily I guess I made friends with one of them. But that's how I know that they want to kill me.

But some of thsoe rycers really PISS me the hell off like in lunch the other day I was talking with some friends and about 2 feet away from me there were some rycer kids talking about a camaro and I involved myself and they said something to the extent of "camaro's suck anyway its civic all the way....I'll take a stock civic over a souped up Camaro SS anyday......" omg I wanted to hit him so badly...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 08:50 AM
OH! Now i understand why you got so mad...

I've had people ask me questions like.......

"If you could have a Ferrari F50 or a Camaro SS BUT couldn't sell either of them what would you pick?"

I immediatly said the camaro but if I was able to sell them I would pick the ferrari and buy a nice size house and a Camaro SS to go with it.

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:52 AM
Even thou i dont like the look of F-bodies, id rather take a stock SS over a GSR, Type-R, or RSX-R anyday. It's just so much cheaper to put a supercharger or bore into it, and meats on the back. THat'll get you launching REAL quick.

Lets just say i dont like America car quality, but its higher on my list than most japanese cars. (This is where i give props to Supra, RX-7, and Skyline owners)

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:57 AM
Someday when im rich ill get a Ferrari 575M, or an Enzo. But that'll be right after my collection of Porsches that include every body styling and chassis number. So when my son asks what a 959 was, we wont have to get on the internet, we'll go to "Daddys" garage...


Dude you really gotta start driving other cars. If i had the choice between a F50 and a SS, id take the F50, but thats because I drove a 360 Modena once, and thats still not half the car an F50 is. Its so easy to like one thing and always choose that, i like SS's too, but c'mon, an F50. You'd have ALL the honeys in that ride.

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 08:58 AM
Ill be putting together a sig with cars and comp specs, youll seen then whawt im all about...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 09:02 AM
ya even those cars I don't personally like..........however I will give "mad props" to the rotary engine. Even though GM owns the rights to it :laugh:

anyway there aren't many jap cars that really impress me. In terms of looks atleast. The supra I won't even go there cause again with the "steroids" its twin turbo. That's not true raw engine HP. That's just an engine with some mods added to it. Same goes for the 3000GT. The base model gets 140HP ok? then the next model up gets about 220. THen the VR4 AGAIN twin turbo gets 320HP. Ya I guess from your point of view is much better then the 5.7L V8 in the Camaro SS that only gets 325HP. But they detuned the engine quite a bit. Well they didn't touch the engine they just put fake dual exaust on it. The only engine that will really give respects to is the rotary and MAYBE MAAAAYBE the engine in the skyline. And even that I think runs on some steroids. or should I say "mods"...

[EDIT]

well ya that's what everyone says about the F50 vs the Camaro SS. But the thing is if I was truly offered an F50 or a Camaro....you and I both know I'm picking the ferrari right?

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 09:09 AM
A japan spec version of the skyline nissan engine is twin turbo, but i still think there is a 300ish hp NA skyline engine... hmmm.

I still think its not steroids if a manufacturer designs an engine from the ground up to have twin turbos, its not like they build a motor and say "oops this doesn't have enough power, lets add some turbos..." nope, turbo motors are built with specific air intake and compression requirements, then the block has to be strong enough to maintain that much power, and the head should be in the right place to quickly move pressurized air into the cylinder... its a big complicated process to building ANY engine, the real trick manufacturers deal with that we don't is price of repair and warranties. Remember, they're in the business, we just race 'em.

[EDIT]

me too... ferrari... hmmm...

and the only reason i may choose a 325Hp 5.7L SS motor over a 320Hp VR4 Motor is weight, but then again if im racing turns, the turbo lag is gonna help me lose grip in the middle of accelerating corners, not good... so it depends, can i handle the turbo lag with less weight in precise cornering, or can i deal with more all-the-time power in a corner if im good at power-sliding...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 09:11 AM
ya that is true. So what explains a rycer and his little honda? They rebuild the engine. But once again I know that stock turbo's and supers usually suck. Usually the engine is pretty powerful. And the turbo and super is just there for a little more boost.

[EDIT]

It seems like your saying the camaro is heavier. THe 300GT weighs as much as a truck! It runs a little slower then a Z28. But ya in a motor trend article that I have of the Camaro SS vs the Mustang Cobra. It says somethign about the LS1 having alot of low end tourque that gives you the ability to really power out of corners. I've never driven a turbo (haven't driven many cars lol) and therefore have never expierienced turbo lag but do know what it is.

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 09:21 AM
But once again I know that stock turbo's and supers usually suck. Usually the engine is pretty powerful. And the turbo and super is just there for a little more boost.

Not always. 911T push 16psi, and the stock RX-7 turbos push 12psi, and the Kompressor in a MBZ pushes 3-5psi depending on the model, and the super in a Lightning pushes 9psi. It all depends on what Turbo or Super is in the car, who makes it, and how big it is. Yes, manufacturers like to use less boost because it keeps an engine running smoother, longer, but not always. Although ive never seen a stock car with 30psi, like some of those 10sec hondas.

A Rycer rebuilds his honda so that he can use the small weight of the car he bought, but the large Hp of the engine he's making. The engine thats in the car cant handle the power he wants, to scoot that little weight into the quarter at 9sec. Its not exactly a good idea, but i understand. It's the age old difference between buying a cool car in one lump or making payments (performance one step at a time)...

[EDIT]

I was talking about engine weight. An SS 350 is alot heavier than a VR4 TT motor, assuming they are in the exact same car with the exact same suspension, there is still a decision to the engine type, becasue it determines handling characteristics...

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 09:30 AM
ya......but regardless of how powerful stock turbo's are......

I don't like them not even the sound I can't stand the sound of pressure being given off out of the wastegate. Some of my rycer friends claim that is music to there ears. what?!!? Anyway I like raw engine HP. Which is why I am so quick to use the word steroid. Kind of like a steroid that a person uses to work out. He didn't do that all him/her self.The steroid assisted in it. And that's exactly what I am talking about with cars.

Another major role when it coems to cars is sound. Which is why I like a big beefy engine. Did you ever listen to those sounds that I posted higher in this thread? Those are the nicest sounds a car could give off.

tons of fun
10-22-2002, 12:43 PM
A 1965 Ford Mustang....



http://www.xbetas.com/images/topics/winxp.gif

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-22-2002, 12:53 PM
Ya the front of the old mustangs are pretty cool (I don't like any other mustang at all!) but just those pony car mustangs. I am in love with the grill. Right next to the camaro the mustang probably has to be my favorite 60's american car. (no other country impressed me)

JediAgent
10-22-2002, 01:08 PM
One of my best friends used to own a beat up old 65. Badass car as it tended to 360 when you hit the brake too hard...
ReSpAwN, the arguments over, but i still don't agree with your definition of "steroid" but other than that....
BTW... if anyone hasn't noticed...

My car is an '86 Porsche 944
2.5L 4 Cylinder 8v w/147Hp

5-Speed
Chirps 2nd, sometimes 3rd

Tops out at 138mph
3rd ends at 94mph

1/4mile in 14.9



oh yeah, paid $3000US, and i can still get looks from all the ladies

Harbinger
10-23-2002, 04:31 PM
I drive an '88 Jeep cherokee laredo with over 200k miles. The vomit yellow color is accented by cheap plastic molding and rust spots. The bumpers are metallic and also have started to rust. It is damn near impossible to see out the back window as bubbles have formed in the tint job. It has been broken into 5 times while sitting in front of my house resulting in the lose of 2 CD players, 5 windows and some interior damage. There is a burned out hole in the driver's seat. The seat do not so much recline as the whole chair rocks together. On an onramp I think I can outrun it. THe speedometer goes to 85. Last month the power steering and engine cooling system simultaneously died from a broken belt, not a fun drive to the mechanic's. Any looks I get from the ladies are for sympathy or disgust.

Beats the hell out of walking :D

ReSpAwN DeMoN
10-23-2002, 10:15 PM
lol ever heard the song "ode to my car" from adam sandler?

JediAgent
10-24-2002, 07:01 AM
I drive an '88 Jeep cherokee laredo with over 200k miles. The vomit yellow color is accented by cheap plastic molding and rust spots. The bumpers are metallic and also have started to rust. It is damn near impossible to see out the back window as bubbles have formed in the tint job. It has been broken into 5 times while sitting in front of my house resulting in the lose of 2 CD players, 5 windows and some interior damage. There is a burned out hole in the driver's seat. The seat do not so much recline as the whole chair rocks together. On an onramp I think I can outrun it. THe speedometer goes to 85. Last month the power steering and engine cooling system simultaneously died from a broken belt, not a fun drive to the mechanic's. Any looks I get from the ladies are for sympathy or disgust.

Beats the hell out of walking :D

Atleast you dont have fake wood exterior paneling...

Harbinger
10-29-2002, 07:59 AM
haha, yeah that song came to mind as I wrote it. And thankfully yes it does not have that goofy wood panelling they put on the station wagon version, now that is tacky.

dryadsoul
03-03-2003, 11:02 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ReSpAwN DeMoN
[B]motorbikes run 9 seconds flat? I iddn't know they were that fast lol. how much tourque they got? The Camaro SS only runs 13.2.
Well, Thats not too bad for a stock streeter...........................

But, that is a lil slow compared to last years NHRA Pro Gas
Winter Nationals Champ. 196mph in 6.90 seconds on a 500hp
single V-twin Harley w/IHI Turbo/S&U CV carb [email protected] boost

Or World Land Speed Record @ 202MPH set on public 2lane blacktop with a street legal BMW-K1200RS Turbo [email protected]/[email protected]

Or a 500hp Street Legal '89 Harley Evo @ 200mph

And the master WLSP holder Mike Geokan out of Boise, Idaho
318MPH dual Harley V-Twins set at Bonniville Salt Flats 1986:2cents:

Morgan_Lander
03-17-2003, 11:43 PM
I will be driving a 1997 chevy cavalier LS coupe by the end of today, or possibly tomorrow.

My current ride, a 1989 escort, has a dud transmission...the new part is probably more than the value of the car. I'm selling it to some junker place and they're picking it up. I'm also making an cool 20 bucks off it (I know, don't spend it all in one place).

It sucks when your car don't even last a year.

Tomi_s
03-18-2003, 02:03 AM
I share a 1985 Ford Fiesta with my brother. :rolleyes: It´s a light blue and in relatively good shape! Four gears and top speed 140km/h (in the summer...in the winter about 100km/h :D ). Not a bad car at all. :cool: I would like to very much get the VW Golf 3.0L V6 4Motion!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:

Soverign
03-25-2003, 09:06 PM
I have a 1990 Ford Maverick (1990 model GQ Nissan Patrol)

4.2L 6 Cylinder Engine Running LPG, Quad Fuel intakes and Turbo

5 Speed Manual Transmition with Diff Lock and Free Wheeling Hubs

White in color with very dark grey trim, Flares and mudguards

Factory fitted with a TJM GQ Patrol Bullbar with Hella 100W spotlights.

Nosferatu
03-26-2003, 12:24 AM
Volkswagen Golf GTI mark I, built in 1983 with a 1800cc DX engine. 112 HP. That rocks:thumb: Unfortunately I don't have the money to restore it to its former glory :cry: :cry:

Liegelord
03-26-2003, 03:55 AM
I drive a 1995 ford Aspire(Kia),a 1990 ford Tempo 4 door and I have gathering dust a 1983 Volvo,1987 Chevy S-10 and a 1983 ford Taurus awaiting for me to work on them. ut all in all they are paid for and all mine.:cheers:

rugbydude
03-26-2003, 04:33 AM
Mini cooper S. Same as the one in the picture except black roof and black wing mirrors:D

Tomi_s
03-27-2003, 03:25 AM
No way rugby! :wow: I thought you are a student...how in hell you have a new Mini Cooper (and where did you get the €€€€€?)? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :?: ...or is it your parents car?

rugbydude
03-27-2003, 04:54 AM
Its pretty much me dads:laugh:

Morgan_Lander
03-27-2003, 09:40 AM
Didn't really post what I found out (mind got jumbled with all the cars I saw), but I've got a sweet-ass 99 Cavalier Z24. Girly car, my ass.

rugbydude
03-27-2003, 02:07 PM
Can you posty a piccy:confused:

Tomi_s
03-27-2003, 05:47 PM
Heh...that´s what I thought rugby! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

AMD4EVA
03-27-2003, 07:48 PM
91 BMW 5 series.. 6 speed manual 17 inch rims...etc...

rugbydude
03-27-2003, 11:30 PM
Well tomi wots the point buyin somthing that barely moves when i can just borrow:rolleyes: my dads car:laugh:

Morgan_Lander
03-28-2003, 07:24 AM
Can you posty a piccy:confused:

Already did that over here (http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9558).

matm347
12-09-2004, 09:09 AM
'02 Acura CL-S during the week
'90 Ford Mustang GT set up for auto-cross(450+ NAHP) on some weekends
'04 Honda Aquatrax F-12X on the warmer weekends

Amd_Lover2004
12-09-2004, 12:48 PM
1992 Cavilier... yeah!!!
2003 Alero and 2003 Toyota Solara

intellover
12-14-2004, 01:52 AM
I drive an '02 Plymouth Neon. I've customized it very extensively. All the money I make goes into that thing. I've got dual superchargers pushing on a V8, 20" tires with sweet spinners, dual exhaust, blue exterior and interior with white details, and a system that you can hear from well over a mile away, seriously.

Amd_Lover2004
12-14-2004, 06:35 AM
I drive an '02 Plymouth Neon. I've customized it very extensively. All the money I make goes into that thing. I've got dual superchargers pushing on a V8, 20" tires with sweet spinners, dual exhaust, blue exterior and interior with white details, and a system that you can hear from well over a mile away, seriously.
Nice! you got a pic of that... I would like to see that.

sr4470
12-16-2004, 05:04 AM
'95 Mazda 323C 1.6, 4 speed auto (dont ask), white, new wheels, tuned engine, private license plate (a gift), Japanese import. Sorry about the bad pic, i only had a webcam handy

fONDu pOt
01-07-2005, 05:35 AM
Heres my rig.

2002 Chevy Silverado LS Extended Cab 4x4

JoeHeff
01-13-2005, 02:59 AM
'99 Volkswagen Jetta GL, sivler w/black interior

'02 Ford Explorer XLT, black w/ tan interior

Not my dream cars, but I like 'em both.

RP Racing
01-13-2005, 10:22 PM
Nice! you got a pic of that... I would like to see that.
Actually I'd like to see a pic of a V8 in a Neon. Theres barely enough room for a 4 banger.:nerd:





But then again this is all I have to submit.....:wavey:

RP Racing
01-13-2005, 10:24 PM
and

SileNceR
01-25-2005, 05:34 PM
'90 Ford Fairmont EA-II...

Converted to Multipoint EFI and 5 speed manual with 3.45:1 diff ratio, extractors + 2.5" exhaust...

Quicker than it used to be...

Pittssteelers
01-28-2005, 08:38 PM
I own 3 vehicles...

1991 Ford Ranger
2.3 4 cyl

2001 Ford Focus
2.0 4 cyl hatchback
custom 3D graphics
2 10 inch subs, with a Pioneer amp

2000 Doge Caravan
Plain Jane...nothing added!

Amd_Lover2004
01-29-2005, 03:30 PM
Rp Racing.... I loath you.
I'd pretty much sell my sole for one of those, maybe a 572 would be a little more worth it but still... :facelick: :beerchug:

RP Racing
01-30-2005, 10:48 AM
Rp Racing.... I loath you.
I'd pretty much sell my sole for one of those, maybe a 572 would be a little more worth it but still... :facelick: :beerchug:I drove this Hennessey a few times. :thumbsup:

A buddies "toy" :thumbsup:

Pittssteelers
01-30-2005, 07:33 PM
I own 3 vehicles... Here are their pictures...
1991 Ford Ranger
2.3 4 cyl
http://tinypic.com/1hukc6

2001 Ford Focus
2.0 4 cyl hatchback
custom 3D graphics (this pic is a year old...will try to find one with the graphics!)
2 10 inch subs, with a Pioneer amp
http://tinypic.com/1hukba

2000 Doge Caravan
Plain Jane...nothing added!
http://tinypic.com/1hukcx

easy-cgn
07-18-2005, 11:25 PM
Here are some cars I would like to drive: www.cwwcardesign.com

X420SS
08-05-2005, 01:33 AM
sup

casecutter
08-11-2005, 08:09 AM
Got me a 1995 Oldsmobile Cultlass Ciera SL. 150HP and 4 sexy doors. All the chicks look at me and my half bald head. Oh yeah, styling. And the finishing touch is the dual childseats strapped to the backseat. Nothing says available like childseats.......:laughing:

vp777
08-19-2005, 08:46 AM
1999 Red Civic EX, 4 doors, factory spoiler, PW, PDL, 4 Spd Auto, Cruise, CD+cassette

I used to have: 1990 Toyota Corolla, 1970 GTO conv, 1983 Chevy Chevette, 1979 Pontiac Sunbird, 1969 Chrysler Newport :)

matm347
12-31-2005, 04:27 AM
Just got rid of my Acura CL-S and got into an '04 Cadillac CTS-V.

It's very nice to have 400HP under your foot!

http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/model/gallery.jsp?model=ctsv