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  • #1

    Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

    I have the Cougar pwm fan plugged into the System 2 (4 pin) header and the max RPM never gets close to the rated 1500 rpm; was wondering what triggers the voltage change to this header, if anyone knows? I have monitored the fans with both hwinfo64 & ET6 and they both seem to agree with each other.
    cpu temps?
    system board temps?

    ET6 incorrectly shows the System 1 & System 2 fans reversed.
    CPU-Z shows QPI/vtt voltage instead of Vcore. CPUID hardware monitor shows the same.
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  • #2
    Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

    Sys_Fan2 is always half speed / half voltage, this is normal and how they do all boards. Not sure why, but that's how it is! So you'll need to use a different header if you want that fan to go any faster.

    CPU-z and Vtt issue, I mentioned this before several times, are you using the latest BIOS and latest version of CPU-z? If you are, then you need to send a dump file to CPU-z guy at his forum, or ask Stasio where to send, so he can fix for your board model.

    Here's the latest version
    CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID
    http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
    CPU-Z for Windows® x86/x64 is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system : Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels. Mainboard and chipset. Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD). Real time measurement of each core's internal frequency, memory frequency. CPU-Z is fully supported on Windows® 11. The CPU-Z‘s detection engine is now available for customized use through the CPUID System Information Development Kit, a professional SDK built for the Microsoft Windows & Android.

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    • #3
      Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

      Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
      Sys_Fan2 is always half speed / half voltage, this is normal and how they do all boards. Not sure why, but that's how it is! So you'll need to use a different header if you want that fan to go any faster.

      CPU-z and Vtt issue, I mentioned this before several times, are you using the latest BIOS and latest version of CPU-z? If you are, then you need to send a dump file to CPU-z guy at his forum, or ask Stasio where to send, so he can fix for your board model.

      Here's the latest version
      CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
      You keep asking me and I keep telling you I'm using latest everything.
      Man, I thought I had CRS.....

      But, yeah, I did not know that about the fan header!
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      • #4
        Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

        he must have asked for the reason that an older cpu-z version (v1.56 if I remember right) had the vtt issue on some boards, and it was supposed to be fixed in 1.60 ...
        - Z68X-UD3H-B3(rev 1.3), bios F12
        - I5-2500k [3148C059], cooled by scythe mugen2 rev.b with 1500rpm pwm-fan on cpufan header.
        - 8G(2x4G) Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9W,Low profile/Low voltage, DDR1600/C9-1.35v. Slots 1&2.
        - 16G(4x4G) Samsung M378B5273DH0-CH9 1333 @ 2133-c11. w1.55v
        - Seasonic M12D SS850-EM , 850W Semi-Modular PSU with 80A at 12V.
        - 2x EVGA GeForce GTX285-1GB in SLi, 4x 6pin power and bridge connected.[PCIEX_16 and PCIEX_8]
        - Hauppauge HVR2200 PCIE 1x tv-tuner card.[PCIEX1_3]
        - Intel controller in raid mode.
        - 2x WD 500G blacks in raid0 on intel port 0-1.
        - 1x WD 1000G black on intel port 2.
        - 1x OCZ Vertex2 (32nm) on intel port 3.
        - 1x Optiarc DVDRW on intel port 4.
        - 1x Samsung 500G on marvell port 0.
        - 24" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, lower HDMI port.
        - 17" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, upper HDMI port.
        - 19" LCD tv @ intel/onboard HDMI.
        - 4ch analoge speakers, cambridge dtt set.
        - internal spdif header connected to Geforce 0.
        - front usb connected.
        - front ac97 connected.
        - front cardreader (usb) connected.
        - rear 4x usb bracket.
        - ms media keyboard, ms comfort mouse. usb, wired.
        - w7x64-sp1.


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        • #5
          Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

          Yeah. I'm just ragging on LSD.
          But anyway I'm quite sure CPUID is showing vtt for my board. What about yours? Does it show correctly vcore? Couldn't be that much difference between the boards.
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          • #6
            Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

            Are there programs out there besides hwinfo that show vcore and vtt? Got me curious if any of them are showing correctly.....although hwinfo seems to be working ok.
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            • #7
              Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

              you can try AIDA64 Extreme Edition
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              • #8
                Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                aida, cpuid hwmonitor both seem to work for me, and there must be more. hwinfo is okay for me too.
                cpu-z v.1.60 does show vcore for my board, yes.

                - Z68X-UD3H-B3(rev 1.3), bios F12
                - I5-2500k [3148C059], cooled by scythe mugen2 rev.b with 1500rpm pwm-fan on cpufan header.
                - 8G(2x4G) Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9W,Low profile/Low voltage, DDR1600/C9-1.35v. Slots 1&2.
                - 16G(4x4G) Samsung M378B5273DH0-CH9 1333 @ 2133-c11. w1.55v
                - Seasonic M12D SS850-EM , 850W Semi-Modular PSU with 80A at 12V.
                - 2x EVGA GeForce GTX285-1GB in SLi, 4x 6pin power and bridge connected.[PCIEX_16 and PCIEX_8]
                - Hauppauge HVR2200 PCIE 1x tv-tuner card.[PCIEX1_3]
                - Intel controller in raid mode.
                - 2x WD 500G blacks in raid0 on intel port 0-1.
                - 1x WD 1000G black on intel port 2.
                - 1x OCZ Vertex2 (32nm) on intel port 3.
                - 1x Optiarc DVDRW on intel port 4.
                - 1x Samsung 500G on marvell port 0.
                - 24" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, lower HDMI port.
                - 17" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, upper HDMI port.
                - 19" LCD tv @ intel/onboard HDMI.
                - 4ch analoge speakers, cambridge dtt set.
                - internal spdif header connected to Geforce 0.
                - front usb connected.
                - front ac97 connected.
                - front cardreader (usb) connected.
                - rear 4x usb bracket.
                - ms media keyboard, ms comfort mouse. usb, wired.
                - w7x64-sp1.


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                • #9
                  Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                  Originally posted by Acebmxer View Post
                  you can try AIDA64 Extreme Edition
                  OK, thanks.
                  Originally posted by Darkje View Post
                  aida, cpuid hwmonitor both seem to work for me, and there must be more. hwinfo is okay for me too.
                  cpu-z v.1.60 does show vcore for my board, yes.

                  Yep, working for you. Hmmm.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                    Haha, yes, I thought I'd mentioned it a few times, but never remembered you replying, only that I kept seeing new threads with you asking about it again

                    No worries, and if you did reply and I missed it I'm sorry man!

                    Can you please post an image using the latest CPU-z, AIDA64 Sensor page, and latest Easytune Tuner tab / advanced voltage section I

                    You can get AIDA64 and Easytune here, be sure you grab the normal Easytune (Not AMD, X79, Z77, Ect)
                    TweakTown Forums
                    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/30530-latest-overclocking-programs-system-info-benchmarking-stability-tools.html


                    For this test, please set Vcore 1.35 or 1.3. This is just so we can see what exactly is going on, thanks!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                      Vcore set in BIOS to 1.35

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                      Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
                      Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

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                      • #12
                        Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                        Okay, Franck will have to fix cpu-z by the looks of it.

                        from cpu-z faq:
                        CPU-Z reports a wrong CPU vcore.
                        Please download HWMonitor then save monitoring data (menu file -> save monitoring data) and send back the file to that e-mail address ([email protected]).
                        - Z68X-UD3H-B3(rev 1.3), bios F12
                        - I5-2500k [3148C059], cooled by scythe mugen2 rev.b with 1500rpm pwm-fan on cpufan header.
                        - 8G(2x4G) Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9W,Low profile/Low voltage, DDR1600/C9-1.35v. Slots 1&2.
                        - 16G(4x4G) Samsung M378B5273DH0-CH9 1333 @ 2133-c11. w1.55v
                        - Seasonic M12D SS850-EM , 850W Semi-Modular PSU with 80A at 12V.
                        - 2x EVGA GeForce GTX285-1GB in SLi, 4x 6pin power and bridge connected.[PCIEX_16 and PCIEX_8]
                        - Hauppauge HVR2200 PCIE 1x tv-tuner card.[PCIEX1_3]
                        - Intel controller in raid mode.
                        - 2x WD 500G blacks in raid0 on intel port 0-1.
                        - 1x WD 1000G black on intel port 2.
                        - 1x OCZ Vertex2 (32nm) on intel port 3.
                        - 1x Optiarc DVDRW on intel port 4.
                        - 1x Samsung 500G on marvell port 0.
                        - 24" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, lower HDMI port.
                        - 17" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, upper HDMI port.
                        - 19" LCD tv @ intel/onboard HDMI.
                        - 4ch analoge speakers, cambridge dtt set.
                        - internal spdif header connected to Geforce 0.
                        - front usb connected.
                        - front ac97 connected.
                        - front cardreader (usb) connected.
                        - rear 4x usb bracket.
                        - ms media keyboard, ms comfort mouse. usb, wired.
                        - w7x64-sp1.


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                        • #13
                          Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                          Sent.
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                          Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
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                          • #14
                            Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                            Thanks for the verification Bookdocks, looks like only CPU-z is affected.

                            He may also need a CPU-z dump, not sure if HWmonitor dump is the same? If you want to send him a CPU-z dump just to be sure, you can dump it from the last tab "About" then save report txt. You could compare first, and see if they look the same, if both dump types look the same then you probably don't need to send him another one, unless he asks later.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Fan speed monitering and software anomylies.

                              OK, it's the same wrong reading on both cpuid utilities. I suspect I'll hear back if he needs something. Otherwise .......

                              You stated the System 2 fan runs half speed/voltage. So I guess cpu header and System 1 header run full voltage. What about the Power Fan header?
                              Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
                              Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
                              PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
                              Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
                              Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

                               Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
                              HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105
                              SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
                              SOLD:Z87X-UD5H /4770K

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