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Slamo
10-16-2002, 02:49 PM
Holden wins Bathurst for the 4th consecutive time.

23rd win for holden at Bathurst out of 40 years.

This ends the Holden v Ford argument in my books.


Lol, Lowndes gets a plastic bag in his radiator and his car blows up, Skaife gets one in his and he cruises to the finish line. How's that for reliability :D

SegiY
10-16-2002, 03:00 PM
Bah! let the skylines back in the field, that should stir them up a bit

Wiggo
10-16-2002, 03:41 PM
Yeah, stick some LeMans cars in there. :D

:beer: :beer: :beer:

SegiY
10-16-2002, 04:00 PM
It would be intresting to see F1 cars takle bathurst :p

Slamo
10-16-2002, 07:09 PM
Skylines???????

Sorry, where do they fit into an Australian race, I think the whole reason they banned imports was because nobody came to watch. LOL.

Slamo
10-16-2002, 07:15 PM
a REAL car:

<img src="http://www.hsv.com.au/racing/2002/photos/round10/images/image24.jpg">

SegiY
10-17-2002, 10:34 AM
A better real car
http://cars.uhome.net/nissan/rnn14/photo/rnn14-1.jpg

SegiY
10-17-2002, 10:37 AM
or a not real car :p

djvanders
10-17-2002, 01:22 PM
how can it end the ford vs holden battle???

isnt the series running next year?

wat happens if ford wins the next 7 bathurst. unlikely but not impossible..


wont be over until the series ends

SegiY
10-17-2002, 01:45 PM
What about Holden vs. GM :laugh:

Slamo
10-17-2002, 02:28 PM
Holden IS GM

GM-H to be exact.

djvanders
10-17-2002, 04:46 PM
heheh at the moment it should be HRT VS HRT

the rest of the field just doesnt cut it at the moment unfortunatly
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without the HRT cars the rest of the field is very even

WiKed
10-17-2002, 05:24 PM
let the subarus in, and we will see a the WRX crowned the king

djvanders
10-17-2002, 06:10 PM
MAYBE IN THE WET

Wiggo
10-17-2002, 06:51 PM
Yep it would have to be a very wet race for the WRX to win sorry. They'd be fine on the bends and not too bad (still not fast enough though) on the run down the mountain but, that run up it would see them gettin' left behind as they just don't have the pure grunt for it. : peace2:
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djvanders
10-17-2002, 07:01 PM
most likely win if they were racing around a track in the sand trap heheeh

SegiY
10-18-2002, 10:41 AM
The WRX's are only little 4's, but skylines, supras, etc. are 6's + alow them one or 2 turbos (most have them anyway) to *compensate* against the worked V8's, and the field would soon get stired up.


Holden IS GM
I know, i was being silly :crazy:

WiKed
10-18-2002, 07:08 PM
couldnt agree more, even though i luv the WRX's, it would be awesome too see GOD(R34) made king of the moutain

Moose
10-19-2002, 06:46 AM
Wait until the Barra is on the track, then hopefully there will be a lot better competition, Ford have REAL Chance with this car, let's just hope they don't stuff it up.
HSV have already taken its XU6 range off the market due to not being able to meet the standards of the ford for the same price, the ford was pumping out 6 more KW for 10k less :p

The new ford also looks a lot better than the VY Holden IMO, and the output figures are very impressive :)


Carn Ford :thumb:

Moose
10-19-2002, 06:48 AM
Skylines???????

Sorry, where do they fit into an Australian race, I think the whole reason they banned imports was because nobody came to watch. LOL.

Remember the little Ford Sierras? :p

Holden stood no chance against this 2 litre beast :D

Slamo
10-19-2002, 08:16 PM
Ummmm...........they were EXACTLY the reason why no-one came to watch.

And turbo's have no place at Bathurst anyway, we are talking about V8 Grunt, not 2-litre turbo whine. :shoot2:

Moose
10-19-2002, 09:50 PM
Ummmm...........they were EXACTLY the reason why no-one came to watch.

And turbo's have no place at Bathurst anyway, we are talking about V8 Grunt, not 2-litre turbo whine. :shoot2:


You seriously have NFI about cars do you?

I see you have no comment about the new Ford V8 super car, lack of knowledge in this area maybe?

And it wasn't because "No one came to watch" the races, if you know your racing history you should know that the V8 super car has only been in affect for the past 5 years, before then it was called "Super Tourers", But they changed the rules to only include V8 Super Cars (Ford Vs Holden), Skylines, Sierras and the like still race around in the super touring car races...

Wiggo
10-19-2002, 10:21 PM
You pair still at this? :?:

:beer: :beer: :beer:

Moose
10-19-2002, 10:40 PM
You pair still at this? :?:

:beer: :beer: :beer:

Have to set him straight :afro:

SegiY
10-20-2002, 12:25 AM
not 2-litre turbo whine.
Skylines and supras are 3L anyway

Moose
10-20-2002, 02:58 AM
Skylines and supras are 3L anyway

Depends what skyline we are talking about here :)

The R-30 and R-31 used 3L engines (RB-30)

But the R-32 onwards used a 2.6L :)

Slamo
10-20-2002, 11:48 AM
You seriously have NFI about cars do you?

I see you have no comment about the new Ford V8 super car, lack of knowledge in this area maybe?

And it wasn't because "No one came to watch" the races, if you know your racing history you should know that the V8 super car has only been in affect for the past 5 years, before then it was called "Super Tourers", But they changed the rules to only include V8 Super Cars (Ford Vs Holden), Skylines, Sierras and the like still race around in the super touring car races...

yes moose, I do know my history and I DO KNOW that it was the lack of crowds that caused them to ban imports from Bathurst, nobody wanted to come and watch a ****ing american or jap car race around an Australian racetrack, it was pathetic.

And sorry, but I don't see ANY ford V8 supercar coming close to any Holden V8. n fact, I think the entire first 5 was made up of Holdens.

And isn't it funny how every time I say something about Holden's, you use every car manufacturer in the book to come back at me, its like you're comparing Holden Vs The World :rolleyes2
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Moose
10-20-2002, 03:17 PM
yes moose, I do know my history and I DO KNOW that it was the lack of crowds that caused them to ban imports from Bathurst, nobody wanted to come and watch a ****ing american or jap car race around an Australian racetrack, it was pathetic.

And sorry, but I don't see ANY ford V8 supercar coming close to any Holden V8. n fact, I think the entire first 5 was made up of Holdens.

And isn't it funny how every time I say something about Holden's, you use every car manufacturer in the book to come back at me, its like you're comparing Holden Vs The World :rolleyes2
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For your information Slamo the crowds were not low, they just wanted to create a Ford vs Holden V8 race!

And the Ford Sierra was NOT a Jap car, it was British.

The thing is, all the Imports were kicking the absolute **** out of all the Holdens, and all the Holden fan boys were kicking up a stink, so there was no real competition, and by banning them they brought in better competition.



And you don't read my posts do you?
Did you not see the new Ford V8 super car at the last Bathurst?, it was only on display and did a lap but all the write ups say Holden will have a hard rival to beat.

And also Slamo there would have been at least 2 Fords in the top 5 at last Bathurst if they didn't crash, hardly Fords fault.


And about the comment "And isn't it funny how every time I say something about Holden's, you use every car manufacturer in the book to come back at me, its like you're comparing Holden Vs The World" your the dick that bought it up in the first place!, you mentioned Skylines ect, and I was NOT using Skylines as a rival, if you actually read you will see I was using Sierras, which are FORD!

And even thou Skylines were in competition with Holden back then you seem to forget that. :rolleyes:

djvanders
10-20-2002, 06:44 PM
typical holden turkey... only pop up when there winning(which is all the time at the moment) hopefully wont hear from ya next season when the fords will hopefully be competitive again..

SegiY
10-20-2002, 07:16 PM
Well Holden dosn't have total control like Ferrari does at the moment in F1.

Slamo
10-20-2002, 08:24 PM
For your information Slamo the crowds were not low, they just wanted to create a Ford vs Holden V8 race!

And the Ford Sierra was NOT a Jap car, it was British.

The thing is, all the Imports were kicking the absolute **** out of all the Holdens, and all the Holden fan boys were kicking up a stink, so there was no real competition, and by banning them they brought in better competition.



And you don't read my posts do you?
Did you not see the new Ford V8 super car at the last Bathurst?, it was only on display and did a lap but all the write ups say Holden will have a hard rival to beat.

And also Slamo there would have been at least 2 Fords in the top 5 at last Bathurst if they didn't crash, hardly Fords fault.


And about the comment "And isn't it funny how every time I say something about Holden's, you use every car manufacturer in the book to come back at me, its like you're comparing Holden Vs The World" your the dick that bought it up in the first place!, you mentioned Skylines ect, and I was NOT using Skylines as a rival, if you actually read you will see I was using Sierras, which are FORD!

And even thou Skylines were in competition with Holden back then you seem to forget that. :rolleyes:


Even though I can think of many comeback for your previous post, I can not be bothered.

Both of us think (know) we're right so there is really no point in continuing this arguement.

This post was about Holden winning Bathurst IN THE YEAR 2002. Those who live in the past are just sad.

So I will leave with saying GO HOLDEN and if you don't like it, just don't post in this thread.

Wiggo
10-20-2002, 09:59 PM
HOLDEN? Who's that? Oh William Holden, he was a good actor. :thumb:
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Moose
10-20-2002, 10:13 PM
This post was about Holden winning Bathurst IN THE YEAR 2002. Those who live in the past are just sad.



I swear it, you must be blind.

I also stated that the Ford BA Super car is a VERY good rival for Holden in the next season, which is hardly the past :p

Mr.Tweak
10-20-2002, 10:31 PM
Closing this thread - find something benefical to occupy your minds Moose and Slamo.