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  • #2
    Re: New to this: Setting up a high-end gaming PC...

    Welcome to the forum.

    As I recall the GTX 970 performance drop only happens when you need to access the last 500MB of gpu memory.

    A GTX 980 single or SLI setup does not have this problem.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    • #3
      Re: New to this: Setting up a high-end gaming PC...

      For those who aren't familiar with the GTX 970 memory performance issues, check out Frame Rating: Looking at GTX 970 Memory Performance | PC Perspective.

      The comments by many of their readers is highly entertaining to say the least.

      You will find similar review results at other top tier gpu review sites.
      Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
      P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
      4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
      MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
      Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
      WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
      Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
      SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
      Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
      Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
      Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
      MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
      Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
      win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
      HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
      CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
      E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
      Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
      Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
      HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
      win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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        • #5
          Re: New to this: Setting up a high-end gaming PC...

          Originally posted by profJim View Post
          For those who aren't familiar with the GTX 970 memory performance issues, check out Frame Rating: Looking at GTX 970 Memory Performance | PC Perspective.

          The comments by many of their readers is highly entertaining to say the least.

          You will find similar review results at other top tier gpu review sites.
          Hi again,

          Thanks for that, sorry I hadn't replied until now I've been pretty busy all weekend to be honest. But I'll have a look at that for sure.

          Thanks again for the advice (:

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          • #6
            Re: New to this: Setting up a high-end gaming PC...

            Hey,

            Again sorry I didn't get back, and yeah I haven't really looked at the R9 290X(s), was thinking more about MSI's afterburner, or does that just apply with the Motherboard? I'm not sure myself I hadn't looked into it that much, however your idea does sound decent to be honest, considering a GTX 980 has considerably more performance than the 970, so on an SLI Scale going with the R9 would be a much cheaper alternative with a slight performance difference to SLI GTX 980, which is still considerably more than the GTX 970, so I'm going to look into prices but I'll do a little more research before finalising what I get.

            Again thanks for getting back (:

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            • #7
              Re: New to this: Setting up a high-end gaming PC...

              The MSI Afterburner utility should work with nearly all video card brands and models.

              In a few cases you might need to use the vendor's overclocking utility to get the most out of your video card.

              Naturally if you buy an MSI video card you can access all of the video card's overclocking options.

              Keep in mind that higher end AMD cards require significantly more power and are probably much louder than comparable Nvidia cards.

              The AMD cards probably offer more bang for your bucks (or pounds) if you don't mind the higher electricity costs and noise levels.
              Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
              P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
              4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
              MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
              Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
              WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
              Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
              SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
              Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
              Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
              Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
              MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
              Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
              win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
              HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
              CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
              E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
              Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
              Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
              HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
              win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
              .

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              • #8
                Re: New to this: Setting up a high-end gaming PC...

                Originally posted by profJim View Post
                The MSI Afterburner utility should work with nearly all video card brands and models.

                In a few cases you might need to use the vendor's overclocking utility to get the most out of your video card.

                Naturally if you buy an MSI video card you can access all of the video card's overclocking options.

                Keep in mind that higher end AMD cards require significantly more power and are probably much louder than comparable Nvidia cards.

                The AMD cards probably offer more bang for your bucks (or pounds) if you don't mind the higher electricity costs and noise levels.

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                • #9
                  Re: New to this: Setting up a high-end gaming PC...

                  Originally posted by JammyTactics View Post
                  I looked into running the other options, and the MSI R9 290X Crossfire is actually worse in performace to the MSI GTX 970 SLI
                  I'm actually having a hard time finding raw data in terms of frames-per-second performance, but this seems to hold up (although at higher resolutions a single 290X seems to perform slightly better than a single 970, but not enough to really matter). The space and cooling concerns you brought up are completely legitimate and are probably going to be the deciding factor regardless, unless you want to buy an aftermarket cooler.

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