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Mr.Tweak
12-08-2002, 05:17 PM
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Introduction – More Hardware Next Year Please

To be deadly honest with you, the Australian Game Developers Conference (http://www.agdc.com.au) which was held over this past weekend at the Melbourne Convention Center was not all that exciting for a strictly hardware junkie like myself.

However... for an Australian conference, it was very good to see large companies such as Intel, AMD, nVidia, Microsoft, Sony and Creative in your backyard all putting some dollars back into the industry for the benefit of future game development in our good country down under.

While we did not see it necessary to post any formal coverage, throughout the weekend we did learn a few things of interest for us hardware folks, obviously though much of it was focused toward the gaming industry with no ground-breaking new juicy hardware news to feed you folk with.

So without further ado, here is some of the interesting bit and pieces I found @ ADGC 2002.

Please note throughout this thread you can click on each image for a larger version.


Sony on PS2 – Still Pushing Hard

- PS2 Online Gaming Service

First off, at their Delegate ****tail Party, Sony let a noisy, mostly student dominated crowd of 300 or more know that they will launch their very own online gaming service for the PS2 in Australia sometime during our winter season next year – no in-depth details were given by the speaker battling to sound himself above the crowd.

This service will compete with Microsoft’s Xbox Live online gaming service which should go live in Australia around the same time, we think.


- PS2 Linux Dev Kit

Sony were also showing off their PS2 Linux Development kit with the aim of getting more up and coming game developers to learn the art behind programming PS2 games under the Linux OS.

These kits sell for around $1000 Australian (roughly $500 US).


nVidia bring beautiful Dawn to our shores!

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One of the company stands I thought I would stop by was nVidia where the friendly Steve Burke, Art Director and co from the Santa Clare office in the US of A were showing off their GeForce FX graphics card (to my delight) and CG Graphics engine and development software.


- The Videos

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Now most of us have seen the stunning NV30 videos floating around the Internet over the past month or so. I remember when I first saw these videos and how amazed I was. Seeing the NV30 in action personally impressed me a whole lot more with what the technology is truly capable of – somewhat refreshing my excitement over the new product.

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We shot 3 or 4 minutes of our own new video footage of both the Dawn and Ogre demos for your viewing pleasure. To view these AVI files, you will need to download the latest DivX codec from the DivX website (http://www.divx.com/divx/).

You can download both videos here from our servers:

- Video #1 (Dawn) (http://www.tweaktown.com/files/nv30dawn.avi) (10.1mb)

- Video #2 (Ogre) (http://www.tweaktown.com/files/nv30ogre.avi) (6.7mb)



UPDATE - New Download Mirrors

Overclockers Australia (http://www.overclockers.com.au) were kind enough to mirror both of these videos...

- Video #1 (Dawn) from OCAU (http://www.overclockers.com.au/files/tweaktown_nv30dawn.avi) (10.1mb)

- Video #2 (Ogre) from OCAU (http://www.overclockers.com.au/files/tweaktown_nv30ogre.avi) (6.7mb)


- The Card

After we shot the videos, I asked if we could get a closer look at the NV30 graphics card. While nVidia refused to power down their systems (fair enough – we cannot take Dawn away from fellow jaw dropped perverts) they did offer to take the sides off one of their three ASUS nForce2 Athlon XP 2700+ powered systems they were demonstrating...

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These shots give us a good idea of just how much space these monsters are going to take up inside our cases. As you can see, the heat pipe cooling technology is going to cover two of your first PCI slots – whether you like it or not, start to get used to the fact guys.


- Cooling

While we couldn’t see it, the fan cooling the heat pipes was very loud – we are talking almost Delta-like volume levels. Possibly, as we get closer to seeing these cards in retail, nVidia may tweak the cooling systems to a more noise tolerable level – at least I hope so.

When quizzed by a gamer at the sound levels coming from the back of the card, an nVidia rep was quick to suggest that it wouldn’t matter much because gamers would be using headphones during their gaming. Unless the cooling technology has thermal throttling (which it very well may, mind you) I would have to disagree with this notion.

Say you are listening to music or fragging away with your desktop speakers, the hum of the cooling fan will still be audible since we do not all use headphones.


- Retail Release Dates

I ended my discussions with Steve Burke asking when we could except to see the GeForce FX on store shelves.

He made it clear he was not 100% certain but said we may possibly see a limited supply in stores in the United States toward the very end of this year with supply coming in quantity late January / early February next year.

Please remember these dates were given to us as ESTIMATES and should be treated as such.


Conclusion

Like I said in the introduction, I didn’t have a great detail of information to report here. I hope you enjoy the brief coverage I provided in this forum thread.

Feel free to post your thoughts and comments on anything discussed here.


Cheers! :beer:

RoSWeLL
12-08-2002, 06:00 PM
Very nice report pitty you couldnt shove one in your bag eh :flames:

:cheers:

PersianImmortal
12-08-2002, 06:56 PM
I'm waiting for the FX to update my dusty old GeForce3...hurry up nVidia - it looks so damn sweet!

FLaCo
12-09-2002, 02:29 AM
Just with amount of cooling alone makes you wonder how kick ass that card is gonna be:thumb:

MHG
12-09-2002, 08:03 AM
Can you tell me what case is shown in picture.
I once found a review on this case but lost link due to reformat.
Thanks,
MHG

Mr.Tweak
12-09-2002, 08:20 AM
Can you tell me what case is shown in picture.
I once found a review on this case but lost link due to reformat.
Thanks,
MHG

To be honest I am not 100% sure which case it is - it looked to be a fairly standard mid tower.

Wiggo
12-09-2002, 08:38 AM
Looks like one of these to me, http://www.directron.com/cf2029.html ;)
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E^vol
12-09-2002, 10:20 AM
It looks like a Nikao (http://www.nikao.net/index.htm) case.

RoSWeLL
12-09-2002, 02:24 PM
Wiggo has the case right in front of your eyes ;)

MHG
12-11-2002, 12:29 PM
Wiggo, Thanx for the link. I am building a PC for my friend and he wants a simular looking case to my SF-201 Black Aluminum/Magneseium case for around $50.00, at the very least I convinced him to purchase a decent Antec True Power 430 watt power supply.
MHG

volton
12-12-2002, 04:49 PM
gotta love that Heat Pipe man !!

Real Horsepower 500mhz :laugh:

Dooby
01-08-2003, 09:16 AM
When is the beast coming? I heard January but have not seen any life yet... and when will the next geforce come out - anyone know? I plan on making a new system in July or so and was going to see if anything new as far as graphics will be out by then? I want to have the best of everything when i make my next !.. let me whats up with this high quality machine!

Mr.Tweak
01-10-2003, 08:29 AM
I have heard from many Taiwanese companies that the chip is being delayed from nVidia. I still think we will need to wait 1 - 2 months for them to become mainstream, possible a bit longer.

Dooby
01-10-2003, 08:31 AM
When the 5800 Ultra comes out.. will it have 256mb of ddr or 128? 256 would be awesome....

Mr.Tweak
01-10-2003, 08:34 AM
My bet is 128mb at first, then later will be new models with 256mb - we don't really need 256mb for textures right now anyways.

Dooby
01-10-2003, 08:57 AM
what do you think geforce will be at around july? fx version with 128? just curious... i plan on starting from scratch for a new system at or around july

Mr.Tweak
01-10-2003, 09:15 AM
Early March would be a safe bet.