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t00lb0x
05-07-2003, 07:03 AM
I feel very uncomfertable starting this post, but I think it is an interesting topic (notice as I am actually using correct grammer.) Beyond3d has a review of the Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9700 PRO Ultimate Edition 128MB. This can be found here:http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/sapphire/9700proue/
It is silent because it uses a painted Zalman Chip cooler (normally it is yellow but it is painted silver.) Its performance seems dissapointed only sporting a -2% to a 4% increase in power, one would think Ultimate Edition would add some real power but it doesn't.

--t00|b0x
-Keep on gamin! :shoot:

Darthtanion
05-07-2003, 11:11 AM
I'm not sure I understand what your gripe is here. The silent (passive) cooling is what makes it the "Ultimate Edition". There is no added noise to the system when you upgrade to a power graphics card. It has all the power and overclockability that is normally found on a 9700 Pro board but without any noise.

Have I missed something here? :confused:

t00lb0x
05-07-2003, 11:32 AM
No, your probably right, I just read wrong. But there is a performance difference even though its slight it should be something like Silent Edition not Ultimate because ultimate means "The greatest extreme; the maximum" (according to dictionary.com) and it is clearly not the ultimate in 9700 Pros. I'm trying to get to the point of my little post: Does it live up to its name as the Ultimate Edition?

Wiggo
05-07-2003, 11:52 AM
But the manufacturer may mean "Ulimate Quiet". :beer:

t00lb0x
05-07-2003, 12:16 PM
Then it sould of been "Ultimate Quiet"
here
Edition-The entire number of like or identical items issued or produced as a set
So Ultimate Edition means
The greatest extreme of he entire number of like or identical items issued or produced as a set...does that mention cooling? It refers more to performance

Beefy
05-07-2003, 12:40 PM
Don't take computer product names / descriptions literally. It's all marketing hogwash.

kenny83
05-07-2003, 12:47 PM
:devil:

It all depends if noise is a big factor for you, some ppl like nice quiet pc.

t00lb0x
05-07-2003, 12:51 PM
Attack t00|b0x day, or wait just attack t00|b0x - to beefy

rugbydude
05-07-2003, 02:10 PM
Infact lets capture him and shoot him in the head:snip:

Beefy
05-07-2003, 03:15 PM
Attack t00|b0x day, or wait just attack t00|b0x - to beefy

I wasn't pickin on you. It's just that you've picked a bad example to take words literally. Countless companies have used words like ultimate, superior, greatest, fastest, etc etc... to advertise their product. It's standard marketing.

Also, in terms of video cards, when they use wording like Ultimate Edition, or Special Edition, it usually signifies the best that they are going to make that particular item. Like the Geforce series using the word Ultra. As I said before, marketing speak.

The__tweaker
05-07-2003, 03:33 PM
Infact lets capture him and shoot him in the head:snip:

:rofl:

t00lb0x
05-08-2003, 06:54 AM
Its not only this post...*gets :snip: *

E^vol
05-08-2003, 08:48 AM
Ultimate = power and quietness !

t00lb0x
05-08-2003, 09:44 AM
ok so i have the Ultimate Heatsink DB = 0 but temp = 78C, could i sell that? J/k but i guess...it still seems dumb

RDR
05-08-2003, 10:48 PM
Don't take computer product names / descriptions literally. It's all marketing hogwash.


Do you mean that the Powercolor Radeon9700 Gold edition isn't made from solid gold?????

:wow: I'm shocked:wow:

rugbydude
05-08-2003, 11:26 PM
Do you mean that the Powercolor Radeon9700 Gold edition isn't made from solid gold?????

:wow: I'm shocked:wow:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

E^vol
05-09-2003, 06:35 AM
Do you mean that the Powercolor Radeon9700 Gold edition isn't made from solid gold?????

:wow: I'm shocked:wow: :rofl:
It shouldn't be called PowerColor, it should be called [email protected] ! (IMHO)

t00lb0x
05-09-2003, 06:42 AM
LoL IMHO = in my humble oppionion right?

Darthtanion
05-09-2003, 07:46 AM
Humble or Honest work there. The two seem to be interchangeable from my wanderings so far.

Beefy
05-09-2003, 07:54 AM
:rofl:
It shouldn't be called PowerColor, it should be called [email protected] ! (IMHO)

I've got a Powercolor AIW... :cry:

E^vol
05-09-2003, 10:09 AM
Sorry Beefy, but I've had a bad experience with PowerColor. This 7500 won't take new drivers. :?: I've tried it many times / different ways. No go....:thumbs do
But if you have no problems, then, GREAT !

t00lb0x
05-09-2003, 11:05 AM
Have you tried flashing your video card bios?

Beefy
05-09-2003, 12:13 PM
Sorry Beefy, but I've had a bad experience with PowerColor. This 7500 won't take new drivers. :?: I've tried it many times / different ways. No go....:thumbs do
But if you have no problems, then, GREAT !

That sounds like a software problem, not hardware...

and tb, you should never have to flash your video BIOS, unless there's specifically a problem with the BIOS itself. Most card makers don't even allow people to do it, nor make updates.

t00lb0x
05-09-2003, 12:56 PM
ok, but if i were to get a new gfx card (switch from nVIDIA to ATI) would I need to flash the vid card bios...and wo0t i got a nickname tb!

Beefy
05-09-2003, 02:42 PM
Ok, i'll let you come to this conclusion...

Your video card BIOS is on your video card. If you swap video cards, then the new one will have it's own BIOS. So do you think you need to flash it?

E^vol
05-09-2003, 06:49 PM
Besides, I format everytime I install new hardware, or every 6 months, which ever comes first !
I like to keep things "clean"....: peace2:

t00lb0x
05-10-2003, 10:35 AM
sweet lest time needed to set anything up.