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    Default How to fix previously working boot drive.

    This is not ASRock-specific, but I'm hoping the wealth of experience here might have some ideas. Here's the story:

    I need to do some SSD vs HDD testing with the OS on each drive. I had a working installation of Windows 7 on the SSD. I completely disconnected the SSD from the mobo, connected an old HDD to the channel previously occupied by the SSD, and installed Windows 7 onto the HDD without issue. I then disconnected the HDD and reconnected the SSD. I can no longer boot to the SSD.

    Given the two drives were configured independent of one-another I have to assume something is being saved by the Mobo itself. I.e. only one of each drive was ever connected at a given time so it's not a bootloader issue; each drive has it's own copy of the bootloader.

    I tried clearing the CMOS and reconfiguring my settings but it did not help. I've tried setting the boot order in the BIOS to use "Windows Boot Manager" (which boots me straight back to the BIOS) as well as specifically selecting the SSD (which results in an "reboot and select proper boot device" error) and it did not help. I tried doing a Repair from the Windows 7 disk but got the "not compatible with this version of Windows error" that you'd normally get if you chose the wrong architecture for the media (I double-checked that I had the 64-bit DVD).

    I'm at a bit of a loss here but, to be fair, I'm new the UEFI. Is there something saved in the BIOS that relates to the actual Windows installation?

    Any ideas how to fix this?

    Thanks!

    EDIT: system details:

    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400
    Mobo: Z68 Extreme4 Gen3
    Memory: G.SKILL F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
    Video Card:ATI Radeon HD 5850
    HDD: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB
    OS: Windows 7 Home Premuim 64-bit
    Last edited by Bigtuna00; 09-07-2011 at 12:02 PM.

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    Default Re: How to fix previously working boot drive.

    Update:

    Pulling CMOS battery did not help.

    I've since hooked *both* drives up. I left the SSD on it's original port (0) and added the HDD to a new port. The "Windows Boot Manager" option in the BIOS successfully boots to the HDD which is now on a totally different port. I think this confirms there's something on the mobo that's keeping track of the last installed copy of Windows...is there some way to clear/reset this?

    In retrospect, after a little research I think I could have dual-booted using the same copy of Windows...I may still do this if I'm unable to resolve this problem but it would be really nice to not have to start over from scratch!

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: How to fix previously working boot drive.

    Check your mobo user manual and look for a PFkey option while your system is posting, to select which drive you want to boot from.
    With Gigabyte motherboards, pressing F12 will take you to the Boot Menu, where you can override the default boot device.
    You should be able to select any bootable drive; hdd, ssd, usb, etc.
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    Default Re: How to fix previously working boot drive.

    Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately this does not work :( Specifically selecting the SSD does not allow me to boot to it (nor the HDD). The more I read, the more I'm starting to realize this is because I did a UEFI install. The "Windows Boot Manager" startup entry is created because of this, and in this case points to the most recent install of Windows. I've tried Googling how to change or repair this but not had much luck. But at any rate the only way I can successfully boot is to use the "Windows Boot Manager" item as the boot device in the BIOS.

    In fact, after installing both drives, I was able to boot into System Recovery using my Win 7 DVD and it seemed promising; it discovers both OS installs and offers to automatically fix them. Unforunately this always fails with the error "Failed to save startup options". In the dialog that's left afterwards (use a system recovery disk or use system repair tools) there are no OS's listed. I figured it might be a driver issue (as it says in the dialog) so I tried a few times to load the Intel AHCI drivers but it never seemed to help.

    At this point I'm in the process of starting over :( I just recently re-installed Windows to the SSD, so I'm not losing too much setup time. And I have backups of everything I can think of. But I really need to have this working ASAP so it's probably going to be faster to start fresh.

    Thanks again!
    Last edited by Bigtuna00; 09-07-2011 at 03:47 PM.
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    Default Re: How to fix previously working boot drive.

    Good luck, let us know how you finally solve the dual boot issue with your system.
    Have you tried a web search using: dual boot uefi?
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: How to fix previously working boot drive.

    So far so good:

    I kicked off a new Windows 7 installation to the SSD, leaving the previous working HDD installation in place. I now have two "Windows 7" entries in the normal Windows boot menu (of course I'm going to rename these so I can tell them apart!).

    Moral of the story, I think:
    • If you want to boot from different drives by physically swapping them, *do not* do a UEFI installation.
    • If you want to dual-boot multiple copies of the same OS, go ahead and do a UEFI installation. Just bear in mind the drive itself will not be bootable. You need the UEFI data that's saved with the mobo.
    I hope maybe this will save someone else the major headache :)
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