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    Exclamation Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    I am a subscriber and thanks for pointing out, but I think I'm going to stick with the RAM that's on the mobo compatibility list.

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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    If you're a Newegg Shell Shocker email subscriber, the following is available from 10:00 AM - 1:00 PM today:
    Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX16C9B1RK2/8X
    for $29.99 instead of $39.99 when you enter the promo code.
    O.o!!
    I should get myself subscribed to that lol. $30 is wikkid!

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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    That's the "safe" approach, but.....
    ....It's common for memory manufacturers to use different chips in any given batch of memory kits, so that there's no guarantee a newer batch of memory will still be compatible with an earlier memory memory kit. It's possible that one of the kits might be fine and the other might have "issues". Do any motherboard manufacturers periodically re-check newer batches of previously OK'd memory for every motherboard model? Not likely.
    It's your call.
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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    Quote Originally Posted by NateZ View Post
    Thanks for that looking into that for me and for the explanations.
    This is actually hugely helpful because I never thought to check the model numbers against the mobo list.
    What the ASRock tech support guy was saying regarding the CPU memory controller was that I'd probably be fine with 1333, but it's a pretty big jump from 1066 to 1600. But I can always underclock from BIOS, right? Once it exists again?
    There doesn't seems to be much point in getting 1333 then, as there's no price difference (the only 1333 RAM on the mobo compatibility list that Newegg has in stock is this ADATA Newegg.com - ADATA Premier Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AD3U1333C4G9-DRH) and eventually I'd like to drop in a Core-branded CPU.
    So, I think I'll just go with the first one in Syn's post, as I'd really rather order from Newegg and I like Kingston. What's kinda funny is that, based on the feedback posts, it seems this model Kingston RAM defaults to 1333 on alot of mobos.
    Incidentally, the RMA process for the RAM is going smoothly with Newegg; I'm about to run to UPS to ship back on their dime.
    Yea I like Kingston memory too, and they are only an hour or two drive away from me. They have always been solid for me. I only buy Kingston for the servers here at work, and I don't think I've ever had a single bad one.
    I read some of those reviews lol... 1 egg out of 5 because they have to set the speed in BIOS?!? WOW harsh.

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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    Quote Originally Posted by synack View Post
    O.o!!
    I should get myself subscribed to that lol. $30 is wikkid!
    Oh yeah they have great deals in those emails.
    Prof- Thanks for the insight. The list is still making me feel safe for an extra $10 :)

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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    Quote Originally Posted by NateZ View Post
    Oh yeah they have great deals in those emails.
    Prof- Thanks for the insight. The list is still making me feel safe for an extra $10 :)
    Make that $5. Eggsaver email promo code EMCJNJJ22 12% off select memory (including the Kingston kit from Syn's post).

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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    No problem.
    I noticed that the Kingston part numbers for each kit are quite different, even though the memory specs are identical.
    The ASRock memory compatibility list is much more comprehensive and useful than the many older Gigabyte lists that I'm familiar with. The older lists had very few major brands/models that are common in the USA.

    Parsec and and I had a mini memory debate in another thread about the mobo compatibility lists versus memory manufacturers' lists. In the other thread I said that's it's best to confirm with the memory manufacturer's tech support that a specific model will work your motherboard. I don't have any trouble following the recommendations of top quality memory manufacturers like Crucial, Mushkin, or Kingston.
    I read some of those reviews lol... 1 egg out of 5 because they have to set the speed in BIOS?!? WOW harsh.
    Yep, reading the customer reviews are often unreal, especially when the reviewer rates themselves as having a high or expert "Tech Level".
    Many 1066MHz DDR2 reviews rated the memory poorly because:
    • the memory defaulted to 800MHz speeds
    • cpu-z reported their memory as only PC2-6400 memory
    • the memory didn't work perfectly the first time and they had to make some bios changes
    • it wasn't "real" 1066MHz memory; it was "cheaper" 800MHz memory that they overclocked
    I laugh so hard when I read some customer reviews that it often hurts.
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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    Memory running at a slower speed when first installed is very standard, and not a problem or issue at all. Modern memory contains pre-programmed data that has the speed and timings the memory will operate at. A boards BIOS will read that data and set the speed and timings automatically. It also contains multiple sets of speed and timing data, for various memory speeds. One of these sets is the default or standard settings. To be safe and assure that the memory will work the first time it is put in a board, the default speed and timing data is used, which is always a conservative speed. That makes sense, since the memory manufacture cannot predict how the board, CPU, etc, will work at high speeds.

    Later, the user can adjust the memory speed higher, either manually or using a BIOS setting called XMP, or eXtreme Memory Profile.

    So memory not running at its highest speed automatically is not an issue, it is simply the normal way things are done. Considering it an issue just indicates that the user does not understand how modern memory works.

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    Default Re: Z75 Pro 3 Mobo BIOS Update fail - blank screen

    I know that and you know that, but many of the self proclaimed tech experts writing the reviews obviously don't know their arses from their elbows.

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