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    Dude, you're obsessing over this version of the IME way to much. Your boards page was not updated with a new IME. Intel released a new version in August, and MS put it out on 10/18.

    It's similar to a driver, but a driver is software too. You can live fine without it. You do need it for PCIe 3.0 to work, if that matters to you. It is not essential to update it.

    It seems like you are worried you will miss something if you don't apply it, and ruin something if you do. I could write 10 lines explaining part of it, but would that make any difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    Dude, you're obsessing over this version of the IME way to much. Your boards page was not updated with a new IME. Intel released a new version in August, and MS put it out on 10/18.

    It's similar to a driver, but a driver is software too. You can live fine without it. You do need it for PCIe 3.0 to work, if that matters to you. It is not essential to update it.

    It seems like you are worried you will miss something if you don't apply it, and ruin something if you do. I could write 10 lines explaining part of it, but would that make any difference?
    Dude, you're absolutely right. New build, new SSD, new setup and a relatively inexperienced user = paranoia over screwing things up. I don't plan on using PCIe 3.0 in the near future so unless I see smoke start coming from the box I'll just let that update slide. Good advice.
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    Well, I should say it is good that you care, which is what really matters. I should say it is simply the IME that enables PCIe 3.0 to work, and since you have it installed, yours works now. Frankly, IME is kinda mysterious compared to other drivers and software. It has some kind of automatic update function, but what that updates is unknown to me. I doubt the update function is the entire IME software.

    What makes it more weird is, for example say you update a driver and it doesn't work right. You basically know what is not working, video card, SATA controller, network card/chip, etc. You can go into that device's properties and rollback the driver, no problem. But with IME, try and find the single "device" that IME "lives" on. There isn't one AFAIK.

    I really, really doubt that installing that IME update will hurt anything, if MS (and I imagine Intel) considers it safe to do so. But all of the above again really answers your question, right? Not...

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    UPDATE: I saw that IME Windows update (all of 69K??) and applied it, my Z77 EX 4 PC still works... so far.

    I'm sure we have nothing to worry about.

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    @parsec, nice of you to risk the integrity of your system by installing the update.
    Can you post a link to the update's knowledge base information by viewing installed updates, right clicking on the update for details and then clicking on the more information link to the KB article at support.microsoft.com/kb/xxxxxxx.
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    But, the information you would like to see does not exist. The MS information link results in a page with a generic description of what a driver is, which did not surprise me.

    I can add some information about IME, as I just happened to install Windows 7 on a Z77 board, and I then applied that update. First, some proof that I actually did that:

    Device Manager - Unknown Device after MB drivers install-ime-update-png

    Feel free to check the first link shown, "More Information", but as I said, it's a lot of nothing.

    When I first installed IME yesterday, I saved the information box that appeared when the update was complete, which actually tells us something about IME... Drat, why can't I have more than one pic in a post?! See below.

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    Continued from above:

    Device Manager - Unknown Device after MB drivers install-ime-components-png

    Not much, but a start. Any questions? Yeah, me too.

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    The plot thickens...

    You may not believe this, but literally two minutes after my last post, the following appeared on my screen:

    Device Manager - Unknown Device after MB drivers install-ime-recovery-agent-png

    Actually, that is the final result, as it searched for updates and found none, since I just did one...

    When you install IME, it puts two entries in the Windows Scheduled Tasks service list. I noticed those entries in previous Win 7 installations I did on another Z77 board, and disabled them, since I know better... not really.

    So what does this tell us? It seems Intel is... nervous, tense, worried, about updating this "firmware" (so it's not a driver or software, but firmware... I told you it defies categorization, or is that merely obfuscation) for some reason. Very interesting, and mysterious...

    Big Brother is... updating?

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    That's an awful lot for a 69KB download!!!

    You can only attach one picture per post, but......
    .....you can use the Insert Image option to link to many different images on the web.
    In the Advanced posting window, the Insert Image option is below and slightly to the right of the smiley icon.
    Use the From URL option and uncheck the Retrieve remote file and reference locally option.
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    Default Re: Device Manager - Unknown Device after MB drivers install

    Showoff...

    BTW, those benchmarks you posted of your Samsung 830 are not the greatest (trying to disguise them as a SDHC card, puh-leeze...)

    I don't think that the SATA to Floppy Disk input adapter you're using is doing justice to your 830, you might want to consider updating your hardware, so you can get something more like this:

    Device Manager - Unknown Device after MB drivers install-ssd-v4-r0-iii-128k-mbs-8-1-2012-png

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