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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    You're welcome.
    Think of bios 1.20 as a program and bios 1.50 has a new and improved program.
    When you flash the bios, you are updating the bios program (B.I.O.S. = Basic Input Output System), see BIOS - Wikipedia

    If you follow the flashing instructions, after the flash your bios chip will be "identical" to a P1.50 bios chip.
    Flashing is common for computer enthusiasts, but it's best to flash only when it is necessary.
    I think that you should run with the P1.50 bios and buy the better cpu.
    If you new motherboard comes with an earlier bios, you have two choices:

    1. Physically install a new P1.50 bios chip.
    2. Buy or borrow a low end compatible cpu to flash the earlier bios to P1.50.

    You can damage your board with a bad flash.
    You can also damage your board by improperly installing a bios chip.
    You can always pay a computer store to do either of these steps.
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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    wah, you scared me prof..
    but, i don't know how to thanks, this forum is really2 helpful for people. thx! :)

    so if its identically the same, i will never replace the bios chip by myself,
    but maybe i will do update by my fat32 flashdrive, and yes i5 3330 is a good idea anyway..

    btw, the first step is updating bios to 1.50 by my flashdrive, and installing the Windows OS after, is that a correct way?
    and when to do update the utilities & drivers, is it done before updating the bios or after the bios update?

    thx

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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    When owners are careful and follow the correct procedures, bios flashing usually doesn't have problems.
    In order to flash your bios, you need to install a cpu that is supported by the bios version that is already installed on the motherboard.
    This means borrowing or buying the least expensive cpu that will run on your system.

    If you decide to replace the bios chip, you must be careful not to damage the motherboard when you remove the original bios chip.
    There are amateur youtube videos that should help you see what is involved when replacing a bios chip.
    We are not trying to scare you, but you must carefully follow the correct procedures when flashing or replacing the bios chip.

    The easiest and safest way to go is to pay a computer shop to do either procedure. Keep in mind that if you buy a low end cpu to flash your bios, you should be able to sell the now used cpu and get some of your money back. It will not be safe to try to flash your bios when you install a cpu that is not supported by your original bios.
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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    ahhhh now i understand u'r previous post about borrowing a low end cpu to flash (flash, means updating right?)
    ok its clear now, i'll ask the store then if there any chance to get a free 1.50 bios chip

    btw sry, if i don't bother you, may i ask more about RAM?

    in case,
    this motherboard support max of DDR3 1600 module and 2200 if OverClock-ed,
    and i5 3330 is support max of DDR3 1600,

    what if i pair this i5 with a pair of dual channel G.Skill PC17600 DDR3 RAM instead of PC12800?
    does it mean the PC17600 will decrease to PC12800 speed,
    and we can reach the 2200 only if we overclock the PC12800 to PC17600, not base from a PC17600?

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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    Not to confuse you, but flashing is usually done to change the bios version, up or down.
    Sometimes someone will flash with a beta bios, find that it doesn't work as well and they will then flash back or down to a previous version.
    Most of the time you are updating or upgrading the bios version.

    I'm not familiar with overclocking memory speeds when you have a cpu that can't be overclocked.
    If your motherboard lets you increase the memory multiplier, then you should be able to overclock your memory speed.
    You can probably find the answer by reading web reviews for your motherboard.

    I haven't found any concrete proof that memory speeds above 1600MHz contributes to real world performance.
    Check out http://forums.tweaktown.com/memory/4...dy-bridge.html for more information.
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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    uh woow, interesting topic prof.. i can't tell too when more ram speed affect overall in pc use daily..
    i have not do an overclock before.. /sad..

    some says the more gb's of ram will faster the loading progress,
    but i guess 16gb to 32gb of ram won't boost any significant than 2gb to 8gb in daily programs.
    so if we assume 8gb is the optimal system performance, the speed factor will affect better than adding more gb in ram.

    and maybe we can reach the advantage of PC1600(and above) not in gaming case, but when we do photoshop or other design programs. Yes, load 30 photos @4mb each and we edit them in one worksheet, that will really matter..

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    btw, in topic of BIOS,
    what is the different of 32Mb and 64Mb AMI UEFI Legal BIOS with GUI support?
    does 64Mb works better?

    thx

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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    The difference is basically in the size of the BIOS code, and the CMOS chip where the BIOS is stored.

    A UEFI "BIOS" with a GUI uses more code to provide the GUI interface. A GUI BIOS interface is easier to work with, and more convenient. But the difference is not huge IMO, the navigation is quicker but you still choose from a list of options just like a standard BIOS interface. It will look nicer, but the functionality is the same.

    Regarding what is "better", what does that mean? Does the UEFI provide options a standard BIOS cannot? No, besides the things that are part of the UEFI standard, which are not used by most users, and are really added features that are not related to the mother board's hardware.

    One potential advantage of a 64Mbit CMOS chip, is it may have more room to store Option ROMs. Such as the AMD or Intel RAID configuration interfaces that can be started during POST. Those are a standard part of the BIOS file itself. Add on RAID cards, and other types of PCIe cards may have their own Option ROMs, that need to be stored on the CMOS chip. A common problem with them is there is not enough room on the CMOS chip to store the Option ROM of these add-on cards, and they will not work. Virtually impossible to know if this will be an issue until you try.

    If you are asking about replacing the CMOS chip on a board, with a larger one, that is something I have never done. A boards BIOS needs to be very reliable, and experimenting with it is dangerous unless you really know what you are doing.

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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    In Photoshop Help | Optimize performance | Photoshop CS4, CS5, CS6 they recommend:
    • CS4, CS5, 64 bit, Windows 64 bit: As much RAM as you can fit in your computer

    It looks like you can allocate as much memory as you want to Photoshop.
    With design programs that don't have this feature, you can install ram disk software where the ram disk will be much faster than an ssd.
    I don't know if Photoshop performance will be noticeably better with 2000MHz or higher memory speeds; maybe, maybe not.
    Allocating memory to Photoshop or using a ram disk will be much faster than using their scatch disks.

    The bios specifications for your motherboard are: 64Mb AMI UEFI Legal BIOS with GUI support
    I'm assuming that some other boards have a 32Mb bios and it probably has fewer features.

    Ram disk comparison on an older system:

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    Default Re: a few question about Asrock B-75 Pro3-M Motherboard.

    Whats up with updating bios by your self??? You can't do anything wrong there,if you follow manual.

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