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    Question mobo swap now hi temp

    I recently swapped my Asrock M3A770DE MOBO for a Asrock 870 Extreme3. Now my monitoring program is showing a AUX MOBO temp reading of 270F, but I felt around inside and nothing feels that hot. All other temps seam to be correct(CPU,Core1,Core2, ect). Should I be concerned?

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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    Maybe, but you should check further.
    Which monitoring program are you using?
    Have you checked in your bios to see what temperatures are reported?
    Download and try other excellent freeware programs, such as:
    • HWINFO
    • CPUID Hardware Monitor
    • SpeedFan

    A web search using: computer temperature monitor software
    will provide additional programs.

    You can find links to the latest program versions in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ity-tools.html
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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    Everest Ultimate Edition is the program I am using(a bit old but up till now still worked)
    Already have CPU-Z
    Link to validation:
    http://valid.canardpc.com/2622618
    Last edited by r8er4ever; 12-21-2012 at 06:08 AM.

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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    Sometimes you need to update monitoring software to the latest version to get accurate results.
    Download and try one or more of the freeware monitoring programs and see what they report.
    Have you checked the temperatures that are shown in your bios?
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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    Here is picture of HWINFO:

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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    It looks like you can cook inside of your computer case, based on the Auxiliary's 239 degree (F) temperature.
    The high temperature might be a known issue, possibly due to your bios version.
    Do a web search using: Asrock 870 Extreme3 high auxiliary temperature to see if others had this problem and what fixed it.
    Hopefully forum members with your motherboard will post their information.

    We can best help you after you create a detailed hardware list in the System Specs portion of your
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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    I tried searching but didn't find a whole lot of help. Does anyone know where this aux portion of the board is because feeling around inside I don't feel any heat like is being detected.

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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    You have nothing to worry about, there is nothing in your PC that is over 200F in temperature, that is just bad/false data that is being interpreted as a high temperature.

    All mother boards that provide temperatures, voltage, etc. readings use a sensor monitoring chip designed for that purpose, in your case you can see in the HWiNFO screen it is a Nuvoton NVT6771F. Chips like that have all kinds of capabilities, more than are needed or used by a mother board. The mother board engineers choose what data to send to the chip, but they don't use all of the processing it has, it has more than they need. If you used the monitoring program that ASR provided with your board, you won't see that reading, because it is simply something they are not using.

    So called third party monitoring programs like Everest or HWiNFO, try to work with all the sensor monitoring chips that mother boards use. The programmers of those programs don't always know what sensor data the mobo engineers are using, and what data output of the chip is valid, meaningful, or even what the source of the data is. There are many standard readings, but all boards are different, as well as the chips providing the data. If you check the release notes for various versions of HWiNFO, you'll see that the programmer is adding code to handle new CPUs, mother boards and monitoring chips all the time. You can read in the HWiNFO forum that the programmer must request information from board manufactures about what sensor data they are using, but they don't always cooperate with him.

    Regardless, these monitoring programs try to process as much data as they can. When they get data whose source they cannot identify, they use generic names like Auxiliary, SYSINT1, etc. You can also see entries in HWiNFO for things that do not apply to desktop boards, like 3VSB, VIN4, VIN6, etc. All the readings displayed are not applicable to every mother board or PC, there is no standard for monitoring display outputs.

    IMO, in your case you are seeing either:

    An oversight or mistake on the part of the mother board designers. Normally sensor data output that is not applicable to anything, but is still provided by the chip, is given a false but reasonable value. For example, Auxiliary will be set to output data that will display as 30C/86F. The data your board is sending for what is seen as Auxiliary is over 100C, and even worse, changes up and down as a true reading would.

    A bug in the monitoring programs. Your board's sensor chip may be a new model that the programmers have not modified the code to deal with correctly. The way that sensor data is encoded can be very complex, for example a CPU does not send a binary value of 40 if its temperature is 40C.

    You could post a thread in the HWiNFO forum in their Bugs section about your situation, and the programmer will tell you if he can fix it, or if you should just ignore it. Regardless, that reading is just plain wrong, and nothing to worry about.

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    Default Re: mobo swap now hi temp

    Thanks, when I felt around inside and couldn't find anything putting off that much heat I kind of felt that might be the issue but wanted to ask around just to be safe. Because I think at around 200+degrees things would be putting off odors or smoke even....lol But never hurts to ask. Another funny thing is that after my puter is on for awhile the temp will drop to about 170F I'm assuming because of my case cooling system(120mm front and bottom, 140mm side window, 120mm exhaust, and bottom mounted P/S, and fair wire management)
    Last edited by r8er4ever; 12-21-2012 at 02:32 PM.

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