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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    Quote Originally Posted by Undermoose View Post
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    I believe there is more to the "enterprise class" than just being better a better bin. Retail is typically just raid1 or raid0 configurations, enterprise class are built with enterprise raid configurations in mind (raid0,1,5,6,10), a quote from their marketing hype (LOL, no I don't work for Seagate): "Powered by our multi-drive firmware and enhanced rotational vibration tolerance".
    Well, I was being charitable about consumer drives, since I thought I might anger the HDD devotee's. I agree that they are different animals.

    That sounds like great support from Seagate, all you usually hear in general about any HDD company is not good.

    I've had good luck with Hitachi HDDs lately, short of one that was DOA, shipped from Newegg, shipped being the keyword.

    I was underwhelmed by the so called "SATA 6Gb/s" HDDs, which don't even reach SATA II sequential read speeds. That was another Hitachi 2.2TB HDD, with 64MB cache, which is all of ~25MB/s faster than a SATA 3Gb/s HDD. All marketing BS IMO.

    Your Rampage III board no doubt used the Intel ICH10R SATA chipset, likely the best PC SATA II chipset. Last used on X58/i7-900 CPU series boards. I have a four SSD RAID 0 volume on my X58/ICH10R board as the OS volume, not a glitch in over a year. I would trust the ICH10R anytime, but yes, no SSD caching.

    UEFI booting should make no difference IMO. Once you get past the POST checks, and hopefully a different RAID OROM, UEFI booting has little to no influence over the RAID volume's operation.

    I may have found a bug in either Windows 8, the Intel RAID driver (11.7), or a certain SSD when used in RAID 0. Windows 8 has a new manual TRIM feature for SSDs that is integrated with the usual HDD defragment feature, into one feature called Optimize. The Optimize feature lists all the disks on the PC, and their type, ie HDD, SSD, removable (USB Flash), etc. The key here is the recognition of the type of drive, if SSD it will be TRIM'd, if a HDD it will be defragmented. The great news is it will TRIM a RAID 0 array of SSDs (perhaps only on Intel 7 series chipsets) which I have run successfully. But I discovered that a certain model of SSD when in a RAID 0 array is seen as a HDD in Optimize, and will have a defragment run on it, not useful for SSDs at all. Other SSD models in RAID 0 are recognized correctly as SSDs. The SSD seen as a HDD when in a RAID volume is seen as a SSD when used normally. I'm still checking this and it may be a fluke on that PC, but I do know that jumping to conclusions is usually wrong.

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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    I was underwhelmed by the so called "SATA 6Gb/s" HDDs, which don't even reach SATA II sequential read speeds. That was another Hitachi 2.2TB HDD, with 64MB cache, which is all of ~25MB/s faster than a SATA 3Gb/s HDD. All marketing BS IMO.
    I think Intel chose to put 4 x 3gb/sec ports on it's controller because the performance of a raid10 array on those ports maxes out the chipset capabilities, so there is no need for 6gb/sec in raid10.

    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    Your Rampage III board no doubt used the Intel ICH10R SATA chipset, likely the best PC SATA II chipset. Last used on X58/i7-900 CPU series boards. I have a four SSD RAID 0 volume on my X58/ICH10R board as the OS volume, not a glitch in over a year. I would trust the ICH10R anytime, but yes, no SSD caching.
    You're correct the x58 REIII was the ICH10R, I must correct myself, mine was the the Rampage Extreme with qx9770 on LGA775 which I sold it when Sandy Bridge came out. It was a nice rig, but had an ICH9R. Anyway my RE offered a couple of years of PC tweaking and hours on the Rampage Extreme forum lol. What a finicky board in some respects, specifically overclocking and stability lol OUCH, storage was never an issue though except when I was crashing the system and causing reallocated sectors LOL. When the ASRock Extreme7 Gen3 arrived... mana from heaven, what simplicity, wow, hit a button and 50 percent OC without tweaking a thing. LOL, BORING, but works ;)
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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    Quote Originally Posted by Undermoose View Post
    Hi zslawek, it's well documented as to what driver to look at in the bios for EFI installed OS, but doesn't detail the extraction and identification specifics well. It does detail how to replace it quite well /gulp...

    Using MMTool, I open the BIOS, look for SataDriver, but do I then switch to Extract Tab, and Link Present, and select 8086-2822, and then Export? If I do that and select 2822 or 282a the BIN file generated has the same versions as CMSCORE extracts did.
    Here you are
    sorry for the delay

    Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303-sataorom-jpg

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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    When I extract just as the screen shot above, I don't see a version in the extract file like I do with the CMSCORE extracts.

    Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303-cmscoresatadriver-jpg
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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    it's because the driver information in the satadriver isn't at the begenig. you have to serch the hole file for string "1 1 . 5"

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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    Thanks again zslawek.

    So are you saying this means the UEFI OROM of my Extreme7 Gen3 2.33A BIOS is 11.5.0.1582?

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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    IMHO yes

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    Default Re: Extreme7 Gen3 Intel Option Rom 10.8.0.1303

    Quote Originally Posted by zslawek View Post
    IMHO yes
    Based on what I've read about Windows 8 requirements I tend to agree, but I would love to be able to verify this from within Windows.

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