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    Default Re: new build z77 extreme4 won't detect SSD

    It's possible, but unlikely that all five sata power connectors are bad.
    I've seen several different psu reviews by customers where they had great difficulty connecting sata power cables to their ssd's.

    Once you have erased your ssd using the Parted Magic boot CD/USB, ASRock TSD wants you to use a minimal hardware setup where your now empty boot drive, your ssd, will be the only writable drive attached to your system and you should use the Intel Sata3_0 port for your boot drive.

    Parsec is the win8 know it all .... strike that .... he's the win8 guru (1st class) that can best help you setup your win8 boot drive.
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    Default Re: new build z77 extreme4 won't detect SSD

    Still can see SSD hooked up via Thermaltake' usb docking station but windows 8 won't install to external usb disk drive.
    I believe that is correct & expected.
    See, NT 6.x fast installer: install win7 directly to usb external drive. (Also note the differentiation between USB "Flash" drive & USB "hard disk".)
    (Not sure if that also applies to Win8, though I'd suspect...?)

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    Default Re: new build z77 extreme4 won't detect SSD

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    It's possible, but unlikely that all five sata power connectors are bad.
    I've seen several different psu reviews by customers where they had great difficulty connecting sata power cables to their ssd's.

    Once you have erased your ssd using the Parted Magic boot CD/USB, ASRock TSD wants you to use a minimal hardware setup where your now empty boot drive, your ssd, will be the only writable drive attached to your system and you should use the Intel Sata3_0 port for your boot drive.

    Parsec is the win8 know it all .... strike that .... he's the win8 guru (1st class) that can best help you setup your win8 boot drive.
    That is, if the SSD is seen by Parted Magic, since apparently that SSD could not be seen in the UEFI/BIOS, but seems to be working in a USB external enclosure.

    Since I find SATA power cables from power supply's annoying, I use adapters, four pin molex to SATA power, usually one molex to two SATA power plugs. Just another way to test if the SATA power cable is bad.

    If none of the SATA power connectors worked on the cable, that would mean a major fault in the PS, as if the cable was not connected. SSDs only use the 5V rail of a SATA power cable. If an external USB case can get that SSD going, I'm still thinking it's something to do with the PS, including the SATA power connectors. It's times like these I wish SSDs had a power LED, which a (very) few do.

    I don't think we've suggested clearing the CMOS/BIOS yet, which won't hurt anything, so worth a try.

    Parsec is the win8 know it all .... strike that .... he's the win8 guru (1st class) that can best help you setup your win8 boot drive.

    Thanks... I think... ya know, even after I've defended Windows 8 in this and other forums, to actually see that in writing, makes me feel... weird. I'm not sure that I qualify as even a gu

    BTW therube, I think you are right about the Windows installation failing on a USB drive (except Windows to Go), which would include Windows 8 too. That is probably a pirating thing, to stop it, since the USB protocol is simpler than SATA.
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    Default Re: new build z77 extreme4 won't detect SSD

    I am currently having a similar problem with the same mobo but a Samsung 830 128gb drive. It will boot after setting for some time, but will not reboot or even restart other times. Once it is up and running it is stable.

    On Tom's hardware they mention using the intel ports for the SSD and turning off the Asmedia Bios. The author of that problem said it worked. I will try it after my computer has been off for a length of time and actually starts. My worry is that once the bios restarts, it will go back to the same black screen.

    New technology can be such a bother, but the Samsung SSD for only $75 dollars seemed so alluring. Trading off speed for reliability doesn't seem like a good bargain unless I can solve this one.

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    Default Re: new build z77 extreme4 won't detect SSD

    I highly doubt your Samsung 830 is the problem, they are well known to be one of it not the most reliable SSDs available. Don't forget there are literally thousands of 830's in use, personally I have... eight 830's in various capacities, and they have worked flawlessly for me. SSDs are not new technology anymore, I've used them as OS drives exclusively for three years now, and would not use a HDD again for that application.

    OTOH, the ASMedia SATA interface is not as reliable as the Intel SATA interface is, as well as not performing at all at the level of the Intel interface. You haven't listed any of your other hardware or OS, or what SATA mode you are using, and SATA drivers.

    I would highly suggest using the Intel SATA ports for your SSD, and use the ASMedia ports for less critical usage. Frankly, I would never use the ASMedia ports for an OS drive, and I have the ASMedia controller disabled, I don't use it. Your 830 is not the only variable in the equation, the SATA interface, driver, and version of Windows are all important factors.

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