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    Default Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    I'm going to be starting my first DIY build soon and am trying to get all the right compatible parts.
    My concern is will the Ripjaws work or will they be too tall with the Hyper 212 installed. There are several posts
    that mention this possibility. I do plan on overclocking in the future (if I can figure out all the details) hence the need for the 212

    So I was looking in the G Skill web site and came across the
    [ ARES] F3-1600C9D-8GAO DDR3-1600 PC3 12800 8GB(4GB x 2) CL 9-9-9-2N 1.5 Volts XMP Ready for 1st, 2nd and 3rd Generation Intel Core Processors
    The G Skill web site says that it is compatible with the Extreme4 but the ASRock web does not have that memory listed in the compatibility list for
    the Extreme4. This memory is listed as 33mm high. The ripjaw is 40mm high.

    The question is do I need the low profile memory chips or not, and if so, is the ares listed above really compatible with the Extreme4?

    Thanks in advance for you advice on my problem.

    Here's the system that I currently am planning
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    Default Re: Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    G.Skill is a quality outfit, but I have major issues when any manufacturer makes blanket statements like:
    XMP Ready for 1st, 2nd and 3rd Generation Intel Core Processors
    Compatible with AMD platform
    Your motherboard is listed in their Qualified Motherboards List so I take this to mean that they've tested this memory kit with all of the boards in their list.

    No motherboard manufacturer can test every memory kit with every motherboard model.
    Quality memory manufacturers do not want to lose money with RMA'd memory that wasn't compatible, so they have an economic incentive to be honest with their compatibility claims.

    If you want to play it safe, only buy memory from ASRock's supported memory list.
    I personally am satisfied with the memory manufacturer's specific model recommendations. Some will disagree with my approach.

    Sometimes you can find a detailed diagram on the cpu cooler's website where it will show the distance from the top of the cpu's surface to the lowest point of the cooling fans. Depending on the cooler's front to back distance, the cooler might not interfere with taller memory heat spreaders, but the attached cooling fan might be a problem. See if you can find a detailed review of the cooler and your motherboard and check for close up pictures that show the how taller memory might be a problem. It's possible that some similar motherboards might have a similar relationship between the cpu socket and the memory slots. A possibly iffy source might be customer reviews at Newegg or similar sites for the memory kit where they report their motherboard and cpu cooler.

    You can send a PM to G.Skill - Matt W*ng, include a link to your thread and see what he has to say.
    Let us know what memory kit you end up with.
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    Default Re: Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    Newegg has the Rosewill Capstone 750-M psu for $90 (after a $20 mail in rebate) but the rebate expires today (29 April 2013).
    I think that some of the Rosewill modular power supplies are mostly modular, not fully modular.

    Depending on when you are buying your hardware, you might might find a great price on a Seasonic or Rosewill psu at Newegg on a 650 - 750 watt, 80 Plus gold or platinum rated unit with an after rebate price of $90 - $100. Not too long ago they had an 850 watt gold rated Seasonic psu for $110 after rebate price.

    Last October I bought a Seasonic 660 watt 80 Plus platinum power supply for $90 after rebate and with free shipping from Newegg.

    **edit**
    If you're willing to consider an Nvidia gpu, check out the GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB instead of the HD 7850.
    HardOCP was very impressed with the Nvidia. HARDOCP - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost Video Card Review

    From their conclusion:
    The Bottom Line

    If we haven't made it clear yet, the GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost is a good upgrade if you are on an aging Radeon HD 7770, or GeForce GTX 650. The GTX 650 Ti Boost will get you a substantial performance improvement. If your choice is between the Radeon HD 7790 or GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost, the new GTX 650 Ti Boost is the better option for a better gameplay experience. If you are trying to decide between a Radeon HD 7850 and a GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost, we'd have to go with the GTX 650 Ti Boost. It offered slightly better performance; just make sure you get the 2GB model. And it is less expensive.

    We had to double check the price of the GeForce GTX 650 Ti with NVIDIA after experiencing the performance delivered. It seemed like the performance delivered for the price was too good to be true. NVIDIA confirmed that the 1GB GTX 650 Ti will be $149, and the 2GB model will be $169. The GeForce GTX 650 Ti delivers the best performance we've ever seen at the $150-160 price segment. It truly is phenomenal, and we are impressed at what has been delivered to gamers.

    We aren't just buttering you up, when we talk about value and getting the best bang for the buck; the GeForce GTX 650 Ti is the definition of that. NVIDIA could have easily sold the GTX 650 Ti for the higher price point of $170-$180 and it would still be a good deal. The fact that it will be $150-$160 is just incredible. Those gamers on a budget don't have to settle for a poor gaming experience. The GeForce GTX 650 Ti will allow budget gamers to play today's latest games at high settings at 1080p for $150-$160.

    We are very excited to get in some retail custom built GTX 650 Ti Boost cards so we can see what extreme overclocking can bring performance up to. The GeForce GTX 650 Ti easily earns our HardOCP Editorís Choice Gold award.
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    Default Re: Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    RAM clearance of a CPU cooler can depend on its orientation.

    The CM Hyper 212 EVO has a rectangular rather than square set of cooling fins. If this cooler is mounted so its fan pushes air up towards the top of the case, then it could interfere with the tall DIMMs. If it is mounted so the fan pushes air towards the case's top rear fan vent, then it will not be near the tall DIMMs.

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    Default Re: Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    Thanks all for your answers to my questions. I'm slowing accumulating the parts. Came across this deal at Newegg
    1 x ($204.99) SAPPHIRE 100354OC-2L Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card
    $204.99



    1 x ($109.99) AMD Gift FARCRY3 Blood Dragon BIOSHOCK TOMBRAIDER

    The gpu has a $15 rebate and the 3 games are free

    The memory will be

    ARES F3-1600C9D-8GAO kit though they also have a 8D for the same price. I'm waiting on a reply from the GSkill expert about that one.

    Thanks again to one and all.

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    Default Re: Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    I just mounted a Hyper 212 Evo with same G.Skill ripjaw except its -GBRL Had to move my ram one slot over as the fan blocks the slot closest to the CPU

    The air flow with mine is from Dimm slot to back of the case. Was not real comcerned about it, not planning on running 4 Dimms.

    BTW any have code list for G.Skill so i can figure out what -GBRL means?
    Mobo: ASrock Z77 Exteme4
    CPU: i5-3570K 4.2G
    CPU Heatsink : Hyper 212 EVO
    RAM: Ripjaw F3-12800CL9-4GBRL 2x4GB
    GFX: MSI GTX650
    PSU: Lepa 500W
    SSD: PNY XLR8 240GB (C:)
    SSD: OCZ Agiliity 3 240GB (refurb)
    Storage: Seagate 7200.12 1TB
    Storage: Seagate 7200.12 500GB

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    Default Re: Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    GB = how many GB in the memory kit.
    Post your code question in the TT G.Skill forum and Matt can answer your question.
    Check out the G.Skill recommended memory list (aka Ram Configurator) for the Z77 Extreme4 and you'll see that similar memory kits/colors have the same suffix in the model name.
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    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
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    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
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    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Need help in determining if I have right memory for ASRock Z77 Extreme4

    Yeah what profJim said but the L seems to indicate a red memory color while O is gold. I dont know what the R stands for

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