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    Default Change from IDE to AHCI

    I've got it set to AHCI in the BIOS, although there's a "Combined IDE/SATA" setting which is set to enable and I have no idea what that does.

    In Device Manager, it shows my HDD, connected to the right-most SATA2 connector, as connected to "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller".

    I've checked that msahci is set to start and I've installed the latest Asmedia Sata 1390 driver, which has added an "Asmedia 106x SATA Controller" in Device Manager (with nothing connected) and there's also a "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller" listed there.

    I realise I should probably connect the HDD to one of the two SATA3 connectors and I'll do that but first I want to get the SATA2 ports working as AHCI and not IDE.

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    isn't there an ahci option for those ports in the bios?
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    Default Re: Change from IDE to AHCI

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    isn't there an ahci option for those ports in the bios?
    As I said, I've set it to AHCI in the BIOS.

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    Default Re: Change from IDE to AHCI

    what board are you using? some boards have two options for ahci depending on what sata3 and sata 2 ports your using

    for example the older x58 boards had options for marvell sata 3 ports to set them to ahci mode and for the intel sata 2 ports to set them to ahci mode aswell
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    Default Re: Change from IDE to AHCI

    It's the 880GMH/US3 and it does have two settings for AHCI but they're both set to that.

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    Default Re: Change from IDE to AHCI

    Howdy Mate,

    Does your Device Manager look anything like this?

    Change from IDE to AHCI-w8device-manager-jpg

    Windows 8 64 Pro 64 bits, BTW. May look a little different if you have Win7.

    This belongs to my Asrock 960GM/U3S3 FX (AMD760G/SB710) which from the specs of yours are somewhat similar except of course for the more advanced chipset you have. What I mean is that you apparently have the Asmedia sata controller tacked on to your SB710 chipset to give you 2 Sata III 6gps connectors whereas the rest are just Sata II 3gps or IDEs as the SB710 originally had.

    In my bios (American Megatrends) in Advanced>Storage Configuration, I have:

    Onboard Sata Controller-Enabled or Disabled
    Sata Operation Mode-IDE or RAID or AHCI
    Onboard Sata 3 Operation Mode-IDE Mode or AHCI Mode or Disabled

    My choices are the ones underlined because I have a Samsung 840 SSD connected in one of the two SATA III connectors on the mobo, a Samsung SataII 1 tb HDD on one of the Sata II connectors and a Sata DVD burner on another of the SATA II connectors. All work in AHCI. Below these 3 lines is a table of IDE(Master-Slave) and Sata II (Sata II-1 to Sata II-4) components connected. My HDD is on Sata II-3 and my DVD on Sata II-4.

    I did test an old IDE DVD burner with a IDE to Sata converter on one of the Sata II connectors but I chose the IDE option in Sata Operation Mode because it was still an IDE component and just had a sata cable to the mobo because of the converter. There is where the IDE/AHCI choice comes into play. My Sata II HDD was still visible for some reason but I didn't access it while I carried out the test. Of course the SSD was functional and received data from that IDE DVD read from a CD so I would say the test was a success.

    A friend of mine passed me a Sata DVD burner that would no longer write but could read well and that is what I have in my system. I haven't burned a DVD for ages anyways....and is in AHCI mode too (automatically)!

    Any clearer? Or did I misunderstand? Remember to post some kind of info/background of your system/component so we won't be guessing what you are trying to get across :)

    Cheers
    Last edited by Papang; 07-07-2013 at 01:02 AM.

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    Default Re: Change from IDE to AHCI

    Hi Papang

    In my BIOS it has

    SATA Controller - Enabled
    SATA Mode - AHCI (other options IDE or RAID)
    SATA/IDE Combined Mode - Enabled
    SATA 3 Configuration - AHCI

    and underneath it shows all the IDE and SATA ports, with the only one populated being SATAII_5 - Samsung HD103S. I have a SATA DVD drive and a IDE HDD and a DVD drive but don't have those connected yet, to keep things simple whilst I try and diagnose this problem.

    In Device Manager, it shows the same as your picture except instead of "Standard SATA AHCI Controller" it says "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller". I think I'm meant to install some drivers so that it shows AMD SATA Controller instead though, as it does on my other PC, although I'm not sure whether it actually makes any difference.

    That won't help with my current problem though, which is that my SATA HDD is showing as connected to the "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller", as shown below in the "View - Devices by Connection" mode. I should try connecting the HDD to a a different SATA port though, as perhaps ports 4 & 5 are weird like this for some reason (maybe it has something to do with the "SATA/IDE Combined Mode", which I haven't found a description of yet).

    EDIT: Yep, moving the HDD to SATAII_0 puts it on the "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller". Perhaps the "SATA/IDE Combined Mode" needs to be enabled to use the actual IDE port, I haven't tested that yet though.
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    Default Re: Change from IDE to AHCI

    Hmmm, it is somewhat different from mine now that you shed more light on this. I just posted here a pic of my bios (took a photo of my screen) which is this one:

    Attachment 5976 Give it click to see.

    Took it too close so it is kind of blurry but you can see my three options. Onboard SATA Controller (line one) to me has to be enabled unless you don't have any Sata capable drives. You have the HD103SJ which is Sata II (great choice of hdd, btw, hehe, I have one too) so to get better performance, leave it enabled.

    Line 2 belongs to the 4 Sata II connectors of the SB710 chipset which can be switched to IDE (let's not talk about raid now) if you plan on connecting your older IDE HDD. I use an IDE to SATA Converter by Vantec ($10usd) and thus can use a Sata cable to connect to these. In my understanding, altho the IDE HDD now sports a fancy new age Sata cable, it is still an IDE. These convertors work at the lowest Sata settings (1 or 1.5) which is almost the same as IDE performance. I think that with the converter, it will work both ways: IDE or Sata (in IDE emulation). I would test it both ways. The things is that the bios recognizes it. Same for you DVD burners. If the bios sees them too, great!

    Line 3 is exclusively the Asmedia Sata III connectors (2 in a different colour to distinguish them from the SB710 connectors. Your HD103SJ, altho Sata II, will run fine in Sata III, maybe even a little faster. Only benchmarking (which I haven't done) will tell the truth--I might just be imagining it, hehe.

    Your SATA/IDE Combined Mode is what has me scratching my head but I figure that it might refer to your SB710 connectors. Ahh, do you have a IDE mobo connector like me? That is the IDE master and IDE slave lines in the table and yes, I can connect an old IDE ribbon to it and the IDE HDD will appear in one of those lines and will work fine with my SSD with Win8 64bits. I installed Win XP x86 on the IDE (a Seagate 7200rpm 80gb with a molex for power-really old) and it works but I just did that today so I don't know how long that will last.

    Why don't you read my other post which refers to something that you are trying to do like me (or rather I am trying to do like you):

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/5...same-time.html

    It might help clear some voids and doubts. Let me know about anything else, but I am still working thru that post now.

    Cheers

    P.D. You get your SB drivers from the AMD All in One driver file either dowloaded (I did this) or your mobo CD, if memory serves me right. Install those and AMD storage drivers will appear.
    Last edited by Papang; 07-08-2013 at 12:09 PM.

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    Yeah, I've got a proper IDE connector on the motherboard, so would connect any IDE devices to that rather than buy IDE->SATA converters.

    From reading your other post, it seems like your IDE connector is probably completely separate from the SATA controller, whereas on mine it seems to be shared, hence the "SATA/IDE Combined mode" setting and the fact the SATA HDD showed as connected to the IDE Controller in Device Manager when on SATAII_5. I'll have to test whether an IDE device is detected/works with "SATA/IDE Combined mode" disabled but I suspect not.

    Thanks for the tip about the AMD drivers. I should know that but I forgot! Still not sure if it makes much difference using them or the Windows default ones but I guess it's best to use the proper drivers ;)

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    Well, if memory serves me right, IDE connectors don't/can't support SATA, thus the raison d'Ítre for the newer Sata connectors on mobos. So I don't think that is the function of the combined mode you mention. For me it would work on the SB710 governed sata connectors only, not for anything connected to the IDE connector.

    Could you upload a pic of your bios on the screen that would be the equivalent of mine? It should be in Advanced>Storage Configuration or something to that effect. I hope you understand that what you (us rather) are trying to do things that even the engineers at Asrock might not have done so besides clearing up our doubts, we could help others who are in a similar situation. That is how I have learned a lot of things--from the generosity of others that have taken the time to pass on what they have learned to others.

    What I'm getting at is that if you connect your IDE HDD to the IDE connectors on your mobo, it should be totally independent from all that Sata, but you HAVE to see it in the bios somewhere to know that it is recognized in the first place. I have not seen a case where I could work with a drive without it being recognized in the bios (some say they have but I suppose is really rare). So a lot of testing is in order because you may be breaking ground on something no one has tried to do with that mobo, like Columbus discovering America, hehe.

    That is what I was getting to in my other post, like the title says: I'm trying to connect to the SAME mobo 3 different animals--a Sata III SSD, a Sata II HDD and an IDE HDD. Not too many people are trying to this, I'm sure...and you are one of them ;)

    Cheers

    P.D. I[ll be posting my results of connecting all three types in my other post sometime today or tomorrow latest, lest I forget what I did (happens when I do a lot of things at the same time).

    2nd P.D. I didn't edit the above so that you can see where deductive thought processes take you, haha. The reality is in the next post as seen on my bios (can't show more than 1 pic per post in this forum). I just finished jumping through hoops to get everything going as I (you) wanted.
    Last edited by Papang; 07-09-2013 at 02:42 AM.

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