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    Default Re: Z87M Extreme4 no POST, nuffin

    Ok, just had the time to get back to this today, and I realized that the "bare socket" most likely means the CPU socket,
    and indeed there seem to be issues, not sure if it comes across via the picture, but a visual check makes me believe
    there are some pins / contacts which look suspicious.
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    Default Re: Z87M Extreme4 no POST, nuffin

    It's very hard to check for bad cpu socket pins with a fuzzy picture, there are at least two damaged areas:

    Z87M Extreme4 no POST, nuffin-asrock-z87m-extreme4-bent-damaged-cpu-socket-pins-jpg



    The following is a much more useful picture:





    One or more high resolution closeups is often best:

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    Default Re: Z87M Extreme4 no POST, nuffin

    That's the areas I've identified as potentially bad as well, thanks for the confirmation !
    (And sorry for the fuzzy picture).

    Will ask for a board replacement.

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    Default Re: Z87M Extreme4 no POST, nuffin

    You're welcome.
    Hopefully they won't claim that it's user caused damage and deny your RMA.

    It's very hard to photograph the socket pins, even when you have a tripod and a decent 5 mega-pixel (or higher) camera that can shoot using macro mode. Good, even lighting without using a flash is best. I've seen a few examples where there weren't any bent pins, but the height of some pins were lower than all the other pins and this won't show up in an overhead photo. When I get a new motherboard, I carefully check pin alignment and pin height before I install the cpu. Checking pin height is done by inspecting the pins where your viewing angle is close to the motherboard's surface.

    If none of the pins are broken or burnt, it is sometimes possible to very carefully straighten bent pins, but there is a good chance that you will break one or more pins.

    Good luck, let us know how everything turns out.
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    Default Board replaced - all fine now !

    (Late) Happy New Year to everyone.

    Sorry for the delay, the RMA process took quite a while, the holiday season certainly didn't speed things up either, I guess.

    Although I, in my anger about having received a faulty board, stupidly and thoughtlessly damaged the socket even more by
    putting the PnP cap onto the socket directly got the board replaced and ... everything worked just fine with the new board,
    out of the box, even the "incompatible" RAM (Crucial Ballistix Tactical DDR3-1600 as mentioned earlier) didn't cause an issue at all.

    Thanks for all input !

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    Default Re: Z87M Extreme4 no POST, nuffin

    Glad to hear that everything is OK with your replacement motherboard.

    Thanks for the update.

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    Default Re: Board replaced - all fine now !

    Quote Originally Posted by A-l-e-x View Post
    (Late) Happy New Year to everyone.

    Sorry for the delay, the RMA process took quite a while, the holiday season certainly didn't speed things up either, I guess.

    Although I, in my anger about having received a faulty board, stupidly and thoughtlessly damaged the socket even more by
    putting the PnP cap onto the socket directly got the board replaced and ... everything worked just fine with the new board,
    out of the box, even the "incompatible" RAM (Crucial Ballistix Tactical DDR3-1600 as mentioned earlier) didn't cause an issue at all.

    Thanks for all input !
    That's good, but you were lucky. Particularly if Crucial said the memory was not compatible.

    Will memory not in the compatibility list work sometimes? Yes it will, but there is other memory that won't work. The lists aren't there to make money for the memory manufactures, there are specs that the memory must meet in order to work, and none of those specs are listed anywhere in the information on the manufacture's website. They might be in the model's data sheet, if there is one, and if it lists the type of memory chips used. That is then cross referenced with the memory controller specs for your CPU or chipset. Does that sound like fun?

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