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    Default BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    Hi. I am new to AsRock motherboards and have a very probie-type question about CPU's.

    I just installed an AsRock X79 Extreme6. Working perfectly.

    I have an i7- 3820 Sandy Bridge CPU right now but was thinking of upgrading to a i7-4820K or i7-4930K Ivy Bridge CPU.

    The list of compatible CPU's on the AsRock website for my MB says that it is compatible with Ivy Bridge as of BIOS update P2.30

    2011 Core i7 i7-4960X(S1) Ivy Bridge-E 3.6GHz BCLK 100MHz 15MB 130W P2.30
    2011 Core i7 i7-4930K(S1) Ivy Bridge-E 3.4GHz BCLK 100MHz 12MB 130W P2.30
    2011 Core i7 i7-4820K(S1) Ivy Bridge-E 3.7GHz BCLK 100MHz 10MB 130W P2.30

    According to my BIOS Sticker on the MB, my BIOS is REME6 P2.80-15B

    Would I have to change the BIOS at all, or would I be able to just drop the Ivy Bridge CPU in without changing anything else and without damaging anything?

    Sorry, I know it SEEMS obvious, but I really don't want to blow up my brand new motherboard/CPU by doing something stupid.

    MAIN PC
    CPU
    - i7-3820 @ 3.60Ghz
    MB - AsRock X79 Extreme6 (Bios P2.80)
    RAM - 2 x 8Gb Patriot Viper 1866 CL10 Series @933Mhz
    GPU - ASUS Radeon HD 7870 Direct CU II (2Gb) x 2 (XFire)
    CASE - Fractal Design Desire R4 Black Case (windowless)
    FANS - Standard Fan CPU, 5 x FD Silent 2 140mm Fans in case
    PSU - Thermaltake R2 800W
    SSD - Sandisk SDSSDHP2 240Gb (boot)
    HDD - 2 x Seagate ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    SYS - Win7 x64 Ultimate
    KB - Logitech K350 Wireless
    MOU -
    Razor Naga Molten mouse
    MON - ASUS VS247H (1920 x 1080)
    UPS - Belkin Line Interactive 1400VA 840W
    System is not overclocked at all.
    2ND PC
    AMD FM2 A10-7850K @ 3.70Ghz
    AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ (Bios P2.90)
    2 x 4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

    Kaveri Spectre Desktop (onboard) @ 760Mhz
    Thermaltake V9 case (1 x 120mm, 1 x 240mm fan)
    Corsair H80i Water Cooler w/2 x 120mm fans
    Seasonic G-Series (SSR-650RM Active PFC F3) 650W

    OCZ Vertex 4 120Gb SSD (Boot)
    2 x ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    Win7 X64 Ultimate
    Logitech G15 (6 G Keys) USB
    Logitech MX-518 mouse
    Phillips 22HFL3350D/10 (1920 x 1080)
    NAS - Netgear RN104-100AJS 4 Bay (not hooked in)
    Not overclocking


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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    A web search using: x79 sandy bridge-e vs ivy bridge-e performance should give you a good idea of the relative performance.
    Check out what the best review sites have to say.
    Core i7-4960X Ivy Bridge-E review: Intelís Great Limp Forward | ExtremeTech, gotta love the name of this mini-review.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    A web search using: x79 sandy bridge-e vs ivy bridge-e performance should give you a good idea of the relative performance.
    Check out what the best review sites have to say.
    Core i7-4960X Ivy Bridge-E review: Intel’s Great Limp Forward | ExtremeTech, gotta love the name of this mini-review.
    Yeah, there isn't a whole lot of difference between them.

    I can spend the money getting a CPU for the P9X79 Pro board, or scrub that and get an 1150 cpu and mb....and sell the P9X79 Pro board.

    Either way, just checking to see if dropping an Ivy Bridge cpu on my Extreme6 board will fry something, or is it ready to drop in and go?

    MAIN PC
    CPU
    - i7-3820 @ 3.60Ghz
    MB - AsRock X79 Extreme6 (Bios P2.80)
    RAM - 2 x 8Gb Patriot Viper 1866 CL10 Series @933Mhz
    GPU - ASUS Radeon HD 7870 Direct CU II (2Gb) x 2 (XFire)
    CASE - Fractal Design Desire R4 Black Case (windowless)
    FANS - Standard Fan CPU, 5 x FD Silent 2 140mm Fans in case
    PSU - Thermaltake R2 800W
    SSD - Sandisk SDSSDHP2 240Gb (boot)
    HDD - 2 x Seagate ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    SYS - Win7 x64 Ultimate
    KB - Logitech K350 Wireless
    MOU -
    Razor Naga Molten mouse
    MON - ASUS VS247H (1920 x 1080)
    UPS - Belkin Line Interactive 1400VA 840W
    System is not overclocked at all.
    2ND PC
    AMD FM2 A10-7850K @ 3.70Ghz
    AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ (Bios P2.90)
    2 x 4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

    Kaveri Spectre Desktop (onboard) @ 760Mhz
    Thermaltake V9 case (1 x 120mm, 1 x 240mm fan)
    Corsair H80i Water Cooler w/2 x 120mm fans
    Seasonic G-Series (SSR-650RM Active PFC F3) 650W

    OCZ Vertex 4 120Gb SSD (Boot)
    2 x ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    Win7 X64 Ultimate
    Logitech G15 (6 G Keys) USB
    Logitech MX-518 mouse
    Phillips 22HFL3350D/10 (1920 x 1080)
    NAS - Netgear RN104-100AJS 4 Bay (not hooked in)
    Not overclocking


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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    Quote Originally Posted by Spyone1 View Post
    Hi. I am new to AsRock motherboards and have a very probie-type question about CPU's.

    I just installed an AsRock X79 Extreme6. Working perfectly.

    I have an i7- 3820 Sandy Bridge CPU right now but was thinking of upgrading to a i7-4820K or i7-4930K Ivy Bridge CPU.

    The list of compatible CPU's on the AsRock website for my MB says that it is compatible with Ivy Bridge as of BIOS update P2.30

    2011 Core i7 i7-4960X(S1) Ivy Bridge-E 3.6GHz BCLK 100MHz 15MB 130W P2.30
    2011 Core i7 i7-4930K(S1) Ivy Bridge-E 3.4GHz BCLK 100MHz 12MB 130W P2.30
    2011 Core i7 i7-4820K(S1) Ivy Bridge-E 3.7GHz BCLK 100MHz 10MB 130W P2.30

    According to my BIOS Sticker on the MB, my BIOS is REME6 P2.80-15B

    Would I have to change the BIOS at all, or would I be able to just drop the Ivy Bridge CPU in without changing anything else and without damaging anything?

    Sorry, I know it SEEMS obvious, but I really don't want to blow up my brand new motherboard/CPU by doing something stupid.
    Lucky you! You can just put in an IVB-E processor and it will work fine, no need to change the BIOS version at all.

    One thing, in the (I assume) USA ASRock site (that I use) for your board, X79 Extreme 6 does not list a 2.30 BIOS version in the CPU support list. The BIOS download list shows BIOS 2.40 as the SB-E to IVB-E compatibility BIOS update, and 2.40 or beyond is needed for an i7-4930K. Not that it makes a difference with you having the 2.80 BIOS, but I'm just wondering what's the difference between the ASRock site you use and the one I use.

    The only other thing is to check the versions of Intel IME software, Intel INF file installer, and the ASRock AXTU program, which are different versions when IVB-E processors are used. The BIOS download description for version 2.40 states those three must be updated.

    This is the ASRock page for your board I get, with the CPU compatibility list shown: ASRock > X79 Extreme6

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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    Lucky you! You can just put in an IVB-E processor and it will work fine, no need to change the BIOS version at all.

    One thing, in the (I assume) USA ASRock site (that I use) for your board, X79 Extreme 6 does not list a 2.30 BIOS version in the CPU support list. The BIOS download list shows BIOS 2.40 as the SB-E to IVB-E compatibility BIOS update, and 2.40 or beyond is needed for an i7-4930K. Not that it makes a difference with you having the 2.80 BIOS, but I'm just wondering what's the difference between the ASRock site you use and the one I use.

    The only other thing is to check the versions of Intel IME software, Intel INF file installer, and the ASRock AXTU program, which are different versions when IVB-E processors are used. The BIOS download description for version 2.40 states those three must be updated.

    This is the ASRock page for your board I get, with the CPU compatibility list shown: ASRock > X79 Extreme6
    How weird. I just did a search for AsRock X79 Extreme6 CPU compatability, and the link below was the second one on the list.
    ASRock > Products > X79 Extreme6/GB > CPU Support List
    The only difference is the "GB", which is the Game Blaster version, which shouldn't make a difference to the board itself, it is just an extra plugin for sound.

    I will do updates for IME, INF and AXTU once I drop the CPU in, which won't be for a few weeks yet.

    Thank you for the response. I can stop worrying.

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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    Just to add to the model confusion:

    BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6-asrock-x79-extreme6-x79-extreme6-gb-model-confusion-jpg
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    There it is! Thank Prof Jim!

    Yes, if you just look at the "Motherboard Series" link, you won't see the X79 Extreme 6/GB, but click on "Intel Socket 2011" and it appears, along with other wonders, like the X79 Extreme 7 board.

    We can also see the caveat that this and other boards may not be sold world wide. But that's what it states on most if not all boards, which is no surprise.

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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    They wonder how people trying to figure out what to get are getting confused.
    Still, I guess the specs for the actual board are the same. At least I hope so.

    Change of plans. Now looking at a i5-4770, AsRock MB to match and 8Gb RAM, and sell the ASUS board when it gets back
    Apparently I don't need an i7 CPU for the gaming I do. This according to the sales guy where I just returned the ASUS board to.

    Is the Extreme6 the only board where this confusion reigns?

    MAIN PC
    CPU
    - i7-3820 @ 3.60Ghz
    MB - AsRock X79 Extreme6 (Bios P2.80)
    RAM - 2 x 8Gb Patriot Viper 1866 CL10 Series @933Mhz
    GPU - ASUS Radeon HD 7870 Direct CU II (2Gb) x 2 (XFire)
    CASE - Fractal Design Desire R4 Black Case (windowless)
    FANS - Standard Fan CPU, 5 x FD Silent 2 140mm Fans in case
    PSU - Thermaltake R2 800W
    SSD - Sandisk SDSSDHP2 240Gb (boot)
    HDD - 2 x Seagate ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    SYS - Win7 x64 Ultimate
    KB - Logitech K350 Wireless
    MOU -
    Razor Naga Molten mouse
    MON - ASUS VS247H (1920 x 1080)
    UPS - Belkin Line Interactive 1400VA 840W
    System is not overclocked at all.
    2ND PC
    AMD FM2 A10-7850K @ 3.70Ghz
    AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ (Bios P2.90)
    2 x 4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

    Kaveri Spectre Desktop (onboard) @ 760Mhz
    Thermaltake V9 case (1 x 120mm, 1 x 240mm fan)
    Corsair H80i Water Cooler w/2 x 120mm fans
    Seasonic G-Series (SSR-650RM Active PFC F3) 650W

    OCZ Vertex 4 120Gb SSD (Boot)
    2 x ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    Win7 X64 Ultimate
    Logitech G15 (6 G Keys) USB
    Logitech MX-518 mouse
    Phillips 22HFL3350D/10 (1920 x 1080)
    NAS - Netgear RN104-100AJS 4 Bay (not hooked in)
    Not overclocking


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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    Oh goody, now we can have some Intel cpu confusion!!
    i5-4770?? i5-4670? did you mean 17-4770?
    Keep in mind that a K-model cpu can be run at stock speeds and you can overclock it (a little or a lot) later if you want more performance.
    Depending on which applications you'll be running, the i7's hyper threading option might be useful.

    It appears that the ASRock website has some issues.
    • The minimum bios versions probably should be the same for the X79 Extreme6 and Extreme6/GB versions.
    • Are there any differences from the respective download pages for each of these boards?
    • Does the Game Blaster feature really offer better performance or features? Is it only a marketing gimmick?
    • Why aren't the available X79 motherboard models identical from both of the links?
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: BIOS and Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge on X79 Extreme6

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Oh goody, now we can have some Intel cpu confusion!!
    i5-4770?? i5-4670? did you mean 17-4770?
    Keep in mind that a K-model cpu can be run at stock speeds and you can overclock it (a little or a lot) later if you want more performance.
    Depending on which applications you'll be running, the i7's hyper threading option might be useful.

    It appears that the ASRock website has some issues.
    • The minimum bios versions probably should be the same for the X79 Extreme6 and Extreme6/GB versions.
    • Are there any differences from the respective download pages for each of these boards?
    • Does the Game Blaster feature really offer better performance or features? Is it only a marketing gimmick?
    • Why aren't the available X79 motherboard models identical from both of the links?
    ARRRGGGGHHHHH. I give in. The salesman told me today it is an i5-4770, I (stupidly) took him at his word.
    It could have been the i5-4670 he was referring to though.

    I never ever overclock. I don't do power stuff (major graphically intensive games, asteroid orbital calculations, graphic design/rendering, that sort of stuff).
    Mostly by the time my computers stop adequately doing what I want them to do, the technology is 3 or 4 years old and it is time to upgrade anyway.
    Only games on my computer are World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy XIV.

    Both the AsRock X79 Extreme6 pages (the GB and the non-GB) go to the same download page to start with, but selecting the Product type as "Motherboard", the socket as "2011", the GB and non-GB are two separate items.
    The non-GB version lists 14 separate driver downloads, the GB version lists 18 separate driver downloads.
    Both have 6 utility downloads.

    The GB itself offers a second LAN connector, a quad core audio processor, better gaming sound (you can hear things further off!!!), up to 250 OHM headsets, BluRay 2.0 decoder.

    MAIN PC
    CPU
    - i7-3820 @ 3.60Ghz
    MB - AsRock X79 Extreme6 (Bios P2.80)
    RAM - 2 x 8Gb Patriot Viper 1866 CL10 Series @933Mhz
    GPU - ASUS Radeon HD 7870 Direct CU II (2Gb) x 2 (XFire)
    CASE - Fractal Design Desire R4 Black Case (windowless)
    FANS - Standard Fan CPU, 5 x FD Silent 2 140mm Fans in case
    PSU - Thermaltake R2 800W
    SSD - Sandisk SDSSDHP2 240Gb (boot)
    HDD - 2 x Seagate ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    SYS - Win7 x64 Ultimate
    KB - Logitech K350 Wireless
    MOU -
    Razor Naga Molten mouse
    MON - ASUS VS247H (1920 x 1080)
    UPS - Belkin Line Interactive 1400VA 840W
    System is not overclocked at all.
    2ND PC
    AMD FM2 A10-7850K @ 3.70Ghz
    AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ (Bios P2.90)
    2 x 4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

    Kaveri Spectre Desktop (onboard) @ 760Mhz
    Thermaltake V9 case (1 x 120mm, 1 x 240mm fan)
    Corsair H80i Water Cooler w/2 x 120mm fans
    Seasonic G-Series (SSR-650RM Active PFC F3) 650W

    OCZ Vertex 4 120Gb SSD (Boot)
    2 x ST2000DM001 2Tb HDD (Storage)
    Win7 X64 Ultimate
    Logitech G15 (6 G Keys) USB
    Logitech MX-518 mouse
    Phillips 22HFL3350D/10 (1920 x 1080)
    NAS - Netgear RN104-100AJS 4 Bay (not hooked in)
    Not overclocking


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