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    Default To update bios or not update bios, that is the question :)

    I have an Asrock Extreme7 Gen3 motherboard using the P1.30 bios with an i7 2700k sandy bridge cpu. I understand there is great risk involved in upgrading to the newer version of bios but the question is... does the risk come with any reward? Are there any other negative effects other than those caused by not properly upgrading etc.,or are there just no improvements to be had with any of the newer bios and my current configuration. I have researched enough to know of the horror stories of failed updates and incompatibilities but would like input on my actual setup from experts.

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    Default Re: To update bios or not update bios, that is the question :)

    Welcome to the forum.

    Read the http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/5...er-boards.html thread and post any additional questions in your thread that you might have.
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    Default Re: To update bios or not update bios, that is the question :)

    Yes please read my sticky about this, and I'll toss in my comments now.

    JUST addressing the BIOS update PROCESS, the problems are caused by NOT following the procedure correctly. But, the process is quite simple, and as long as you just do (or really NOT do) one thing, you will be fine. If you check the end of my sticky thread, you'll find there are success stories, not that they are unusual, they should and could be the norm. The reason for the problems is the Intel Management Engine firmware that is part of the BIOS file is updated in this BIOS update, but that fact is barely mentioned, and only in one place. If the firmware is not updated correctly, you then have problems with the PC.

    I'll first post the warning provided by ASRock, that is regrettably displayed in one circumstance only, and is NOT displayed in the most significant and typical situation (explained below **):

    To update bios or not update bios, that is the question :)-asr-6-series-bios-update-warning-jpg

    All one needs to do is do not remove the USB flash drive until after Windows boots. Sorry, I am not aiming my emphasis at you personally, but to anyone that reads this thread. Simple, isn't it.

    Some people are used to removing USB flash drives or other media, when installing Windows before it boots the first time after the installation, which at times will begin the installation process over again. When have we been required to not remove the USB flash drive after a BIOS update? So IMO that action by some people is not unusual or unexpected.

    ** The BIOS download page has an instruction link for the BIOS update process. The problem is those instructions do not include the warning message I posted above.

    The driver download page has a listing for the new version of the Intel Management Engine (IME) software that is needed after this BIOS update is performed. The description of this includes a link to the related BIOS update. When that link is clicked, the warning message above is displayed.

    Therein lies the problem. When looking for a BIOS update, and finding one, who then immediately checks the driver download page? Right, no one. The missing warning message on the BIOS download page is the reason why people do not properly perform this special BIOS update.
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    Removing the USB flash drive early does not allow the IME firmware update to occur. What happens when the USB flash drive is removed early? I'm not certain, certainly the new IME firmware is not installed, which is a part of the BIOS file/image source, and exists in the BIOS code stored in the BIOS' CMOS chip. It seems as if no IME firmware is included after the main BIOS update is finished, or it is there but is in some incomplete, partially functional state, given the issues people have in this situation. I could go on but that's it for now.

    Regarding the merits of the BIOS update itself, that's not a simple question. All we have to go on is the usual terse description, that I have seen omit changes in BIOS options in some cases. IMO that becomes the danger, we are tempted to update to get something new that will be useful, or enhance performance. But ask yourself, how often does that happen?

    I just realized you have BIOS 1.30, which is pretty far removed from 2.10 and 2.30. Of course all the older BIOS versions are now gone, apparently so Ivy Bridge CPU owners don't use them. I have no idea what changes have occurred since 1.30, I imagine some are at least worthwhile. But I can't tell you how valuable they will be to you.
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    Default Re: To update bios or not update bios, that is the question :)

    Thank you both for helping me with a question that probably has been asked many times before. So I guess with the vague descriptions of what is included in the bios updates, I'll just have to decide if updating a system that is otherwise working fine is worth any possible improvements the bios may offer. Thanks

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    Default Re: To update bios or not update bios, that is the question :)

    Thanks to you for that. I wish I could provide you with the BIOS update descriptions, but that is difficult if not impossible. If you Google on "asrock z68 extreme 7 gen 3 BIOS", you'll get a lot of hits, I didn't check very many. One thread that may be helpful (if you care) is this:

    **Official** Asrock Z68 Gen3 Extreme7 & Extreme4 thread

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