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    Default Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    Quote Originally Posted by - wardog - View Post
    Pardon me. I get carried away in replying ocassionaly while make my points.

    Sorry for that there. Please excuse me, and my words chosen. It wasn't intentional.
    That's fine my friend. I'm sure you have had plenty of know it all guys that ask for help and when you try to help they don't like what they hear. I'm not one of them. I've worked with computers and for many years but don't have much experience with mini-itx systems. I ran the calculator and I get about the same results as you.

    In a first glance I took i didn't see any PSU for my antec except the original one. If any of the helpful guys here in the forum have seen something please let me know so I can place the order.

    Again thank you for your time and effort.

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    Default Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    Check out http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/5...tml#post477393, post #46 where a Seasonic S-series power supply solved the OP's problems when he was using two different inexpensive power supplies. The rest of his thread details the problems that he was having.

    Going with a mid-sized computer case will also let you buy (if needed) a different cpu cooler that will provide better cooling.
    Keep in mind that many cpu coolers are about 160mm tall and that you should check the width of the computer case if you want the best cpu cooling possible.

    Seasonic made power supplies are my first choice.
    All current XFX power supplies are made by Seasonic and the XFX units are highly rated.
    Seasonic also makes some power supplies for other psu vendors.
    Some models from Antec and Corsair are made by Seasonic.

    I am not at all impressed with some of the newer Corsair power supply models.
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    Default Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    That guy had a regular size case which makes things a lot easier.

    Anyways I just realized that I have a corsair 650 PSU laying around and tomorrow I'll install it externally just for testing. I would do it tonight but it's almost midnight and I'm really tired :-)

    Edit : crap... I can't wait until tomorrow. I'll try it right now.
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    Default Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    ....and I was going to post "sleep well, tomorrow is another day"

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    Default Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    Unfortunately my temps are still the same

    Here are pictures of they whole procedure and the new bios readings. i'm still pretty sure I will have to change my PSU but the overheating problem seems to be something different.








    Something I noticed but I'm not completely sure. When I pushed my heat-sink down I saw the temperature dropping steady until it reached 55c. After I let go it gradually came up to over 70c. Of course I can't be sure sinse my temp readings make big ups and downs. it can go from 60 to 73 in one jump and back to 59 and then up to 80. Really strange. When my IC Diamond 24 Carat comes I will re-seat my cooler.

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    Default Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    Is the cpu cooling fan blowing down, onto the cpu?
    Both reviews mentioned that the fan mounted below the cooling fans and "pulling" air through the cooling fins wasn't ideal for making the most of the cooling fins ability to dissipate heat. I assume that Scythe engineers determined that the downward air flow was best for overall cooling.

    In the scythe AMD Heatsink Temperature Comparisons - Kozuti SCKZT-1000 FrostyTech Review, they reported:

    Fan Speed = high and 30.8 (C)* for their AMD 125W Thermal Test

    Unfortunately they didn't include idle temperatures.
    You will need to inspect the TIM contact pattern when you remove the cpu cooler to see if it was making full contact with the cpu.

    *Heatsinks are ranked according to the 125W Thermal Test results column (rise over ambient temp.). Low temperatures with low noise levels are considered best. For reference heatsinks with variable-speed fans, only the high speed (12V) fan test result is included in the comparison sheet; more detailed results reside in each specific heatsink review.

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    Something I noticed but I'm not completely sure. When I pushed my heat-sink down I saw the temperature dropping steady until it reached 55c. After I let go it gradually came up to over 70c. Of course I can't be sure sinse my temp readings make big ups and downs. it can go from 60 to 73 in one jump and back to 59 and then up to 80. Really strange. When my IC Diamond 24 Carat comes I will re-seat my cooler.
    I missed this information at the end of your post.
    It sounds like your cpu cooler isn't snug against the top of the cpu.
    One possible cause for this could be if you are supposed to install one washer on the backside of the motherboard for each of the four mounting screws.
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    Default Re: ASrock FM2A88X-itx+ with A10-7850K overheating problem

    Is #9, the AMD insulation washer under the motherboard on each of the mounting screws (#5)?
    note: Make sure that you didn't use the Intel (#8) insulation washers.

    **EDIT** Looking closely at the drawing on page one in the installation instructions it looks like the AMD insulation washers are thicker than the Intel insulation washers and this is why the heatsink isn't firmly contacting the cpu.

    Too little clamping pressure means poor heat transfer from the cpu/apu to the heatsink.
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    Whatever is the cause, klekkas, you really need to check the correct hardware for the mounting was used. I would suggest doing this by removing the heatsink and remounting it as what with your pushing down on it and the wild temp swing from just the downward pressure you hand applied signifies the heatsink isn't mounted correctly.

    I'll ask as I haven't a clue your experiences here, how big of "drop' of thermal paste did you use and did you or did you not spread it before applying the heatsink?

    But it looks like, by the temp swing, that there's a mounting issue here too. That is beside the fact you need a PSU.

    Oh. The temps in the BIOS you(we're) seeing represents close to full throttle with the CPU. That's by design, sadly. But while you're in the BIOS it will run hot. Mind you though, that doesn't excuse the fact that the act of you putting downward pressure on the cooler caused swing like that does indicate a bad mounting.

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    Sorry for the delay guys. I fell asleep. I am 100% sure that I mounted the cooler the correct way. The only thing that I'm not sure if it matters is the position of the cooler. Maybe I must turn it 90 degrees. But I don't know if that matters. In regards of the paste I put some in the middle of the CPU and then I spread it a little bit before I applied the cooler. If I screwed up somewhere it would be while placing the cooler I wasn't careful enough and displaced the paste or the position matters or I didn't screw it right or enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slekkas View Post
    Sorry for the delay guys. I fell asleep. I am 100% sure that I mounted the cooler the correct way. The only thing that I'm not sure if it matters is the position of the cooler. Maybe I must turn it 90 degrees. But I don't know if that matters.
    Other than the possible mis-orientation of the cooler relevant to the board, take a detailed and real close look around the coolers base that it isn't resting on any of the motherboard components and thus deterring it from making proper contact to the CPU. If it were resting on a component that would explain your being able to press down on the cooler and in doing so see the temps change as drastically as they do/did while doing so.

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