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    Default Upgrading from K8T800 939 to ASRock 939A785GMH

    Thinking of upgrading from a k8t800 system that has served me well over the years, to a ASRock 939A785GMH .mainly for the sata 2 and PCI express, I am quite happy with 939 format

    I currently use the MSI promise raid 20579 via 2 ide and 2 sata 1 drives I really don't want to re install xp , what are the chances of 1 sata 2 drives waking up in the asrock raid facillity and booting normally.
    I supose I will still be limited to 200 mhz speed of 2 X 1 gig double sided ddr 1,s
    I use norton ghost to copy partitions/drives. this has also served me well
    Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: Upgrading from K8T800 939 to ASRock 939A785GMH

    Quote Originally Posted by b wizz View Post
    Thinking of upgrading from a k8t800 system that has served me well over the years, to a ASRock 939A785GMH .mainly for the sata 2 and PCI express, I am quite happy with 939 format
    It would be nice to know which K8T800 board, since K8T800 is a VIA chipset used by multiple manufactures. Seems you have a MSI board from the hint below.

    BTW, the Promise RAID is provided by the VIA chipset, whom also provide any drivers and software. VIA is long out of business, their products obsolete and no longer supported.


    Quote Originally Posted by b wizz View Post
    I currently use the MSI promise raid 20579 via 2 ide and 2 sata 1 drives I really don't want to re install xp ,what are the chances of 1 sata 2 drives waking up in the asrock raid facillity and booting normally.
    The chances are exactly zero. The AMD SATA chipset on the ASRock 939A785GMH board, using AMD RAID drivers, has many years separating it from the VIA RAID implementation.
    Quote Originally Posted by b wizz View Post
    I supose I will still be limited to 200 mhz speed of 2 X 1 gig double sided ddr 1,s
    I use norton ghost to copy partitions/drives. this has also served me well
    Thanks in advance
    The ASRock board supports memory as slow as 266MHz, which you might be able to clock down more.

    Even if the VIA RAID would boot on the ASR board, every driver and utility you have now is worthless on this board. Not to mention dozens of other things. Your XP installation would fail up, down, and sideways. Copying partitions won't help.

    Your old system is about 10 years old. XP is no longer supported by MS. Time to start over, which will take more than a mother board.

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    Default Re: Upgrading from K8T800 939 to ASRock 939A785GMH

    I did not know that msi had gone bust , Their support forum is still active ?

    I assume that the proposed asrock board raid is installed in the same way as previously, ie floppy driver at F6 key.
    I've no intention of changing from XP yet as it does most things I want to do.

    Not sure whether to go down this route or look into a board with solid state drive support. just a whim at the moment
    thanks for imput

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    Quote Originally Posted by b wizz View Post
    I did not know that msi had gone bust , Their support forum is still active ?

    I assume that the proposed asrock board raid is installed in the same way as previously, ie floppy driver at F6 key.
    I've no intention of changing from XP yet as it does most things I want to do.

    Not sure whether to go down this route or look into a board with solid state drive support. just a whim at the moment
    thanks for imput
    Why did you think I said or implied that? They certainly are still in business. I said VIA is no longer around, which is not related to MSI, except that they and other mother board manufactures used chips made by VIA at one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    Why did you think I said or implied that? They certainly are still in business. I said VIA is no longer around, which is not related to MSI, except that they and other mother board manufactures used chips made by VIA at one time.
    I never was sure who made my board , "K8T Neo 2 Fir". says msi on first screen. The upgrade idea is rapidly going on the back burner , as ,besides the raid install issue ,I will still be limited by the memory controller of the 939 cpu.
    After a PSU failure and replacement, all is well again

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    I said VIA is no longer around, ....
    Au contraire, VIA Technologies, Inc. and Arena: Main News

    And b, swapping boards wouldn't be that awfully hard other than a little work on your part. Besides, my experiences with XP showed it(underlying OS) benefited greatly from yearly fresh installs.

    Other than that, in the swap of the two boards mentioned you would be benefiting with getting away from the notoriously buggy/slow VIA chipset, gaining SATAII, gaining PCI-e, while still keeping some legacy ports like IDE and floppy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by - wardog - View Post
    Au contraire, VIA Technologies, Inc. and Arena: Main News

    And b, swapping boards wouldn't be that awfully hard other than a little work on your part. Besides, my experiences with XP showed it(underlying OS) benefited greatly from yearly fresh installs.

    Other than that, in the swap of the two boards mentioned you would be benefiting with getting away from the notoriously buggy/slow VIA chipset, gaining SATAII, gaining PCI-e, while still keeping some legacy ports like IDE and floppy.
    Not really had any OS issues "other than self induced" with xp. as the system is ok again after psu change . Change for its own sake is not a good reason.

    My overall thinking on this is that the 939 cpu with memory capacity and speed limitations . will be a longer term bottleneck.
    The asrock board has some good features , very tempting

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    Quote Originally Posted by b wizz View Post
    Change for its own sake is not a good reason.
    I wholeheartedly agree. Then it seems you've answered your own question. If there's no benefit to be gained, it's throwing good money away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by - wardog - View Post
    Oops, bitten by my own lack of correct terminology. VIA is in business of course, and they do claim to be in the chipset business. I said earlier they were not selling chipsets to support CPUs anymore, but if you check their website, they list Chipset products. Well what do you know...

    Checking those chipset products, we find listings like this:

    For Intel® Processors

    The VIA P-Series chipsets support the mature Intel® Pentium® 4 and Celeron® processors as well as the latest Intel® Core™/Core™2 processors:

    VIA PT890
    VIA PT880 Ultra
    VIA P4M900 (IG)
    VIA P4M890 (IG)
    VIA P4M800 Pro (IG)
    VIA P4M800 (IG)

    *Note: VIA no longer sells some or all of these chipsets


    The "latest Intel® Core™/Core™2 processors"? That would be from the socket 775 era, from '06 - '09, later than I thought, but not by any means current. Ever try finding a socket 775 board new lately? Only a precious few can be had, none with VIA chipsets.

    The good news for the OP is Windows 7 does have a built in RAID driver for some of the VIA chipsets, so you may not have driver issues installing Win 7 for use with that board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    The VIA P-Series chipsets support the mature Intel® Pentium® 4 and Celeron® processors as well as the latest Intel® Core™/Core™2 processors
    heheh yea, I should have clarified too. They've moved on from them old days. I don't even know if the lower boards like Foxconn and their ilk even use VIA anything anymore. Big into USB controllers now I see.

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