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    calemus is offline Junior Member
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    Default Re: fatality killer

    the main page in bios correctly shows all 4 sticks as 8 gig

    i just got this from asrock

    "This is the very common issue from Microsoft. The simple way is do a fresh window installation.
    Please enter into the UEFI and check the total memory size that should list 32GB.
    The only place is not showing the whole amount of memory under the window 7 OS. Please contact the Microsoft for support. "

    i am not going to contact windows so i can pay them to fix what is wrong with their program. so i need to figure out how to fix this on my own.
    this is a list of what i have done

    1) physically reseated the ram
    2) Bios>octweaker>dram timing control>A)bank interlacing B) channel interleaving C) all timings changed
    3) Bios> changed clock speeds and latency settings on ram
    4) Bios>NB config > Iomm tryed off and on
    5) msconfig>boot> advanced options> max mem box is NOT checked
    6) CP>system>system prop>advanced>performance/Settings>advanced/virtual memory changed to a few things, turned off, set to minimum no matter what i do windows will always pop up a notification
    that it has set virtual memory.
    7) long list of regedit hacks and deletes
    8) loaded the latest bios update from asrock

    still looking for another way to STOP windows from making this page file. no luck yet.
    all research is pointing to the BIOS being bad, but Asrock says it's windows fault

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    so i threw another HD in the mix and windows 7 is showing the same thing.

    asrocks recommendation of a new windows installation might cost a few hundred dollars, but it does NOT fix the problem.
    lesson learned?

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    What version of Windows 7 are you using? Unless you are using PRO or above you will only have 16 GB available.

    Memory Limits for Windows and Windows Server Releases (Windows)

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    Quote Originally Posted by abecvar View Post
    What version of Windows 7 are you using? Unless you are using PRO or above you will only have 16 GB available.
    According to his System Specs pull down he should be fine with 7 x64 Pro.

    Quote Originally Posted by calemus View Post
    [URL=http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/calemus/media/virtualramrape_zps035386c7.png.html]
    Go in, select to not use a paging file and reboot immediately afterwards. What does Windows show upon rebooting?
    #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
    ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.

    #2 - G.Skill RAM Configurator for your boardSamsung Memory for your boardLatest AMD Chipset Drivers/WindowsLatest AMD Graphics Drivers/WindowsLatest Intel Drivers

    #3 - Please use the eXtreme Outer Vision Power Supply Calculator found HERE to determine if it might be your PSU at issue.
    ____Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calemus View Post
    [URL=http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/calemus/media/virtualramrape_zps035386c7.png.html]
    Go in, select to not use a paging file and reboot immediately afterwards. What does Windows show upon rebooting?

    that is the screen shot of what windows tells me after i disable paging file

    basicly, i tell windows what to do
    and windows tells me to go somewhere.

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    Are you by chance manually setting a too small of paging file, and that's why Windows is overriding?

    Or, are/is your SSD/HDD too full and thus no room for a paging file?
    #1 - Please, when seeking help, enter the make and model of ALL parts that your system is comprised of in your Signature, or at least the model #'s in your System Specs, then "Save' it.
    ____If you are overclocking, underclocking, or undervolting any parts, informing us of this and their values would prove beneficial in helping you.

    #2 - G.Skill RAM Configurator for your boardSamsung Memory for your boardLatest AMD Chipset Drivers/WindowsLatest AMD Graphics Drivers/WindowsLatest Intel Drivers

    #3 - Please use the eXtreme Outer Vision Power Supply Calculator found HERE to determine if it might be your PSU at issue.
    ____Consider your PSU to be the foundation from which all else is built upon. Anything built upon a weak foundation is poorly built.

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    it does not matter how big or small i set the virtual ram to
    the hardware reserved is always still set to 1/2 of what ever physical ram i have installed

    i just reinstalled windows, so the SSD, and the HD used to do so were mostly empty

    also the installation previously was at about 1/4 of my ssd volume

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    A Windows page file exists on the OS drive, and I've never seen that message before about forcing the creation of a page file.

    Personally, I can set no page file in Windows, and that's what I get, without any automatic page file creation. That is on PCs with 8GB and 16GB of memory. I don't understand how the size of the page file is affecting detection of your memory.

    I see you have a Samsung 840 EVO SSD, do you happen to use the Samsung Magician 4.3 software?

    So... your 9590 FX processor is not listed in the CPU compatibility list, the one BIOS update that exists don't mention any CPU microcode updates for newer AMD CPUs (memory controller is part of the CPU), and there are very few 8GB DIMMs listed in the memory compatibility list.

    We also find this in the memory compatibility list: Note7: AMD FX series CPU on this motherboard support up to DDR3 1866 MHz as its standard memory frequency.

    Just saying, quite a few issues that are not helping your situation.

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    so i threw on an old phenom 4 core.

    problem is no longer present.

    tells me either the mobo can not handle the job, or the cpu's memory controller is shot.


    so the next step in trouble shooting would either be to purchase a
    cpu
    or purchase a
    new mobo
    Last edited by calemus; 05-22-2014 at 10:46 AM.

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