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    the problem is when you start setting things manual and the bios runs it a speed or setting you did not specify. so if he specifies 1600mhz manually it should run at 1600 not 1333, however if it's happening when he selects performance mode perhaps it's over riding the manual settings and trying to read from the SPD tables? all assuming i'm reading remembering correctly.

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    The Performance mode thing the OP mentioned is:

    Quote Originally Posted by rub900 View Post
    Thanks Wardog for the links. I am looking them over now. I have noticed they are not specific to ASrock's BIOS and they are a little dated. I am thinking I will have to start my own webpage and slowly gather the information myself. I am confused way there is not a guide to the bios on the ASrock website. The manual and guide included in the bios is weak as best. It took me too long and too much clicking to stop the computer from freezing. I have found out several things in the process. If you have a NVIDIA Geforce GTX 660 you need to pick gen2 in the video options. If you have a USB 2.0 mouse you need to use the front USB header connecting to the USB 2.0 header on the mother board and disable the USB 3.0 support in the BIOS. Two things I cannot figure out. Why my memory is changing from 2400 to 1333 and how to change from performance mode to standard mode in the bios. I used the A-Tuning software to do it, but it does not save it. It defaults back to what the mother board is set at and I cannot figure out how to set it in the bios. I like to figure out computer settings. I do it all the time at work, but this puzzle has been more than I wanted to do in my spare time.
    What he is really referring to are Windows Power plans, custom ones defined by ASRock, Performance or Normal (although just based on available Windows options and settings) that can be selected in A-Tuning. Those options obviously cannot be selected in the BIOS, they don't exist there. They also do not affect memory speed in any way. Apparently those power plans are changed back by Windows when it boots, I don't think that is what happens but I don't use those power plans.

    I'm not using my Z97 EX 6 PC now, but i don't think you can change the memory speed in A-Tuning. If you can, unless you tick the Auto Run box on the OC Tweaker screen and Auto Run A-Tuning, then that speed won't be set when Windows boots.

    If the memory speed was set in the BIOS and is reset after a boot (my board does not do that) that could be a bug in A-Tuning, assuming that it is being Auto run, but we don't know any of these things, given what the OP has said. Do we even know what is being used to check the memory speed in Windows, etc?

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    IN my thread wardog said it might be B.F.G., some kind of safe boot guard that changes your settings if it doesn't pass some post check at boot. Which i i think i hate with passion as it masks the problem. idk if the intel asrock boards have this feature too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    The Performance mode thing the OP mentioned is:



    I'm not using my Z97 EX 6 PC now, but i don't think you can change the memory speed in A-Tuning. If you can, unless you tick the Auto Run box on the OC Tweaker screen and Auto Run A-Tuning, then that speed won't be set when Windows boots.

    If the memory speed was set in the BIOS and is reset after a boot (my board does not do that) that could be a bug in A-Tuning, assuming that it is being Auto run, but we don't know any of these things, given what the OP has said. Do we even know what is being used to check the memory speed in Windows, etc?
    Thanks for the tips. It must of been an option I clicked in A-tune when I was first learning the software, because it stays in Standard mode now. It is running at 4.4 so I am happy. The memory thing has me stumped. The below is from A-tuning. Why in the world if I set the memory to auto is it picking this? If you guys think I should set it manually in the BIOS I will do that. What setting should I use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rub900 View Post
    Thanks for the tips. It must of been an option I clicked in A-tune when I was first learning the software, because it stays in Standard mode now. It is running at 4.4 so I am happy. The memory thing has me stumped. The below is from A-tuning. Why in the world if I set the memory to auto is it picking this? If you guys think I should set it manually in the BIOS I will do that. What setting should I use?

    ASrock Bios explained-tuning-jpg
    this is why, ASrock Bios explained

    Either the SPD table is missing, or defaulting to one of the SPDs we don't want or it's wigging out due to a bios glitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rub900 View Post
    Thanks for the tips. It must of been an option I clicked in A-tune when I was first learning the software, because it stays in Standard mode now. It is running at 4.4 so I am happy. The memory thing has me stumped. The below is from A-tuning. Why in the world if I set the memory to auto is it picking this? If you guys think I should set it manually in the BIOS I will do that. What setting should I use?

    ASrock Bios explained-tuning-jpg
    I explained the memory speed Auto setting on page 2 of this thread. The default memory speed when Auto is selected is a low, safe for 90% of boards speed that lets the memory work in more boards. You must select the XMP option in the BIOS or set the speed manually to 2400 to have it run at that speed. This is the normal way high performance memory works, it's not a board or BIOS problem. The XMP setting is in the OC Tweaker screen.

    Now another step in your PC building learning journey, what is the full model number of your memory? You can't just use any DDR3 memory, it must be compatible with the memory controller (that is on the CPU itself). Your memory is probably fine since it works at 1333, but just checking.

    Another thing, are you using 16GB or 32GB of memory? You're using 8GB DIMMs, right? I noticed you have a DIMM in slot 1 of your board. When using two DIMMs, you should use slots A2 and B2 for best compatibility, check the manual to confirm this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post
    IN my thread wardog said it might be B.F.G., some kind of safe boot guard that changes your settings if it doesn't pass some post check at boot. Which i i think i hate with passion as it masks the problem. idk if the intel asrock boards have this feature too?
    Boot Failure Guard (BFG) is a common feature on most ASRock boards, including Intel based boards. It is meant to catch a failure of CPU or memory OC settings that are beyond what the CPU or memory can handle, which it does. If the OC setting(s) fail, you will get a screen that tells you in general that the setting(s) failed, and you can go into the BIOS to change them, or just boot into the OS, since this feature will reset the offending setting(s) to a value that will allow the PC to boot.

    Regarding "masking the problem", I don't understand that. The user should know what they just changed in the BIOS, and should also know that any OC settings might fail to boot. I've used OC settings that did not fail during POST, but would BSOD in Windows. I don't see BFG as artificially limiting any OC, if a start up failure occurs, it can catch it and rather than the PC going into a boot loop, it stops that and lets you fix things without doing a BIOS/CMOS reset so you can get into the BIOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsec View Post
    Boot Failure Guard (BFG) is a common feature on most ASRock boards, including Intel based boards. It is meant to catch a failure of CPU or memory OC settings that are beyond what the CPU or memory can handle, which it does. If the OC setting(s) fail, you will get a screen that tells you in general that the setting(s) failed, and you can go into the BIOS to change them, or just boot into the OS, since this feature will reset the offending setting(s) to a value that will allow the PC to boot.

    Regarding "masking the problem", I don't understand that. The user should know what they just changed in the BIOS, and should also know that any OC settings might fail to boot. I've used OC settings that did not fail during POST, but would BSOD in Windows. I don't see BFG as artificially limiting any OC, if a start up failure occurs, it can catch it and rather than the PC going into a boot loop, it stops that and lets you fix things without doing a BIOS/CMOS reset so you can get into the BIOS.
    AsRock Extreme 4 990FX bios glitch

    I never got any warning at all, my ram will just run at the wrong speed. War dog suggested that it wasn't the bios but, BFG silently changing the settings.

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    CJJ, let's continue your problems/discussions in your thread and not muddle up rubs. It's the polite thing to do.
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