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    Default If someone has a z97 extreme6 really need quick help

    Looking at page 11 and dont get the part where it says "to minimize the boot time, use intel SATA ports 3_0 for your boot drive"
    Do they mean SATA 3_0_3? I have one SSD which i plan to boot from and one HD can i connect both there?? and does it matter if its the top or bottom connection?


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    Dont know why its stated as 11 its actually on 21, I figured out i extra confused myself by reading SATA3_0_3 as another location rather then SATA3, but it still does not make it clear if 0 is the location closer or further when your standing on the side of the comp (where you normally work from)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sebastian869 View Post
    Looking at page 11 and dont get the part where it says "to minimize the boot time, use intel SATA ports 3_0 for your boot drive" Do they mean SATA 3_0_3? I have one SSD which i plan to boot from and one HD can i connect both there?? and does it matter if its the top or bottom connection?
    You should be connect it to either of the 6 ports going to the Intel controller (not the SATA3_A* ports).

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    The SATA 3_0 is the one in the middle and on the top of the block of SATA sockets. The SATA3_3 is the one below that one.

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    i realized yesterday i was doing something retarded i was reading the SATA3 as an additional location digit thus i was confused as to how could there be 3 locations..

    I was told its 12 On the MOBO layout (or 3 down from the top) the only thing i want to make sure is does it matter and its the closer or further one? I went with the closer.

    Im using a SSD for the boot drive hope that wont give me any issues from researching i heard you have to change the bios the SATA controller to AHCI.


    Wish these things had more lanes.

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    In the modern IKEA era we need improvements not race to the bottom. Im sure to the engineers who built the setup/circuits its obvious but id bet a lot of money when you read a how to replace your clutch manual written like this they would be calling tech support as well. As theres another part i dont get.

    It states mem input "priority 1" is a2-b2, priority 2 is a1-b1. Does that make sense? again, not explained in any way

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    Ya know, I was wondering what in the world you meant by SATA3_0_3, and I own a Z97 Extreme 6 board! Then I finally woke up...

    I removed it from a case two weeks ago to install a different board, and just put it in another case, finishing that last night. While I was connecting my drives, I noticed (and remembered) the goofy (and non-standard) way the Intel SATA ports are numbered and ordered on this board!!

    This board has the new (and unusable at this time) SATA Express connection, that uses two regular SATA ports plus another special connector. Because of the SATA Express connection, the ordering of the SATA ports is different, which is fine but can be confusing.

    colliedoggie explained it correctly, but let's take a closer look:

    If someone has a z97 extreme6 really need quick help-z97ex6-sata-png

    The two SATA ports pointed to by #12, are Intel SATA3 ports 0 (top) and 3 (bottom.) You chose the top one, port 0, which is correct.

    The ordering of the Intel SATA3 ports (different than the ASMedia ports) looking at the picture above (from the manual!) are from top to bottom, for the ports on the left, 0, 1, 2. Then we move to the ports on the right, back to the ports pointed to by #12, are ports 3, 4, 5.

    So, my bad on that one, sorry about that.

    After all that, it is not essential to use port 0 for the OS drive, I've installed Windows on a drive connected to port 4 for example. BUT when I did that, it was the ONLY drive connected to the PC. You should have only one drive connected (really just connected to power) when installing Windows, since otherwise it will put the boot partition on another drive. If you then later remove or format that other drive, the PC won't boot. You can fix that but why not just have it done right from the start.

    SO, sorry to not get the message about the SATA ports.

    On to your memory question. To me, it is not a big deal using memory slots A2 and B2 when using two sticks of memory. Of course you can use slots A1 and B1 instead, but if for some reason you get memory problems, change to A2 and B2.

    It is more important that your memory is compatible with your board and CPU, what is the full model name and number of your memory?

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    Ok i get your point about the controller but what about the part where it says for the boot part connect to _0?

    Also, it says that if ur using SATA express it shares with SATA3 4,5? and you can only use m2 or Sata express , one or the other, if im reading correctly. This thing needs more lanes. I doubt in the near future i'll be using either but i dont want to never say never.

    Just so im 100% on this _0 is the first one (or if your looking at mobo layout 12 its the one on the left) is that correct? and does it matter if you connect another SATA connection to the other port?

    They really could lable the SATA3 ports better not that hard just draw it from left to right not numbers left-right but ports up-down.

    I have one SDD i want to use as Boot and i have a new raptor for space and the old one from old comp which i'll put last so i have a working comp in the mean time.

    thanks for input

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    Ah so the number SATA ports are using the Intel controller?

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    Default Re: If someone has a z97 extreme6 really need quick help

    Quote Originally Posted by sebastian869 View Post
    Ok i get your point about the controller but what about the part where it says for the boot part connect to _0?

    Also, it says that if ur using SATA express it shares with SATA3 4,5? and you can only use m2 or Sata express , one or the other, if im reading correctly. This thing needs more lanes. I doubt in the near future i'll be using either but i dont want to never say never.

    Just so im 100% on this _0 is the first one (or if your looking at mobo layout 12 its the one on the left) is that correct? and does it matter if you connect another SATA connection to the other port?

    They really could lable the SATA3 ports better not that hard just draw it from left to right not numbers left-right but ports up-down.

    I have one SDD i want to use as Boot and i have a new raptor for space and the old one from old comp which i'll put last so i have a working comp in the mean time.

    thanks for input
    In the picture, the two ports that 12 points to, are Intel SATA ports 0 on the left, and SATA port 3 on the right. So yes you are right.

    Of course you can use the SATA3_3 port if a drive is connected to SATA3_0, or not.

    A SATA Express SSD will use SATA ports SATA3_4 and SATA3_5, plus the SATAE_1 port. So you cannot use two regular SATA drives in SATA ports SATA3_4 and SATA3_5 if you have a SATA Express drive connected.

    You are right about the M2_2 slot also sharing SATA ports SATA3_4 and SATA3_5, if you use an M.2 drive in slot M2_2, then SATA ports SATA3_4 and SATA3_5 will not be available.

    You did not mention the Ultra M.2 slot, M2_1, which does not share/use any of the Intel SATA ports.

    Understand that the sharing of the SATA ports/lanes is NOT a limitation caused by ASRock. That is a limitation of the Intel Z97 chipset, and ASRock can't do anything to change that. No other Z97 board made by any manufacture can do better than the configuration on this board.

    The Z97 Extreme 6 board has great storage drive connectivity options/flexibility, it is not about a large number of SATA port connections. It is the first board to have an Ultra M.2 port, that uses multiple PCIe 3.0 lanes, and is still the fastest interface available (a few other boards have this connection now too.)

    If you need more Intel SATA ports, you should get an X99 board, the Intel X99 chipset supplies 10 SATA III ports.

    Yes, the ASMedia SATA ports are labeled SATA3_A1 through SATA3_A4. They are provided by two ASMedia ASM1061 chips. They do not perform at the same level as the Intel SATA ports, and cannot work with the Intel SATA ports.

    You have six Intel SATA III ports, and three drives, so plenty of Intel SATA ports, with three left over.

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    Default Re: If someone has a z97 extreme6 really need quick help

    I guess to get to the point i have an SDD which ive never used that I'd like to use as boot. Then i have one new raptor and one old that i wan t to use as data, no raid. hate how short of lanes this board is. Manual says if eSATA is connected A4 will not function., 4 and 5 are share with SATA express. So I should just connect to 0 for arguments sake than whats the best spots to connect the 2 HD one one Blu ray? (I've never used a SDD, it comes with a DVD, can it be used as a boot from the start, will it let me format w/out the "drivers" and do i install them after the partition?)

    Thanks

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